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Old December 9th, 2005, 06:29 PM   #161
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^ It's a new South Ferry station, the southern terminus of the 1 line, the current one is heavily curved and can only fit half a train, so you have to be in the first half of the train to be able to get off.
And it's not the first in 40 years, the Lexington Ave/63rd street station was opened in 1989 as part of the 63rd street line.
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Old December 9th, 2005, 08:10 PM   #162
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too bad they couldnt provide any photo! would be great to see.
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Old December 9th, 2005, 08:13 PM   #163
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Fascinating, and I would LOVE to see pix! However, their math is not very good.
A wall from the 17th century (late 1600's) would be 300 years old, not 200 years.
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Old December 10th, 2005, 06:31 AM   #164
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A wall from the 17th century (late 1600's) would be 300 years old, not 200 years.
May be the MTA would perserve the wall when the subway is under construction!
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Old December 10th, 2005, 09:15 AM   #165
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^ It's a new South Ferry station, the southern terminus of the 1 line, the current one is heavily curved and can only fit half a train, so you have to be in the first half of the train to be able to get off.
And it's not the first in 40 years, the Lexington Ave/63rd street station was opened in 1989 as part of the 63rd street line.
The hell? R u serious?
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Old December 10th, 2005, 09:16 AM   #166
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Yup, I remember taking that subway when in 2000 me and my mom were going to Liberty island. We were at the back, and had to walk between cars to be able to get out.
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Old December 10th, 2005, 09:48 AM   #167
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The hell? R u serious?
It's the same length as the original platforms before the extensions in the 60s, so it can only fit 5 cars. It's the only platform that wasn't extended, the loop made it difficult to extend.
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Old December 10th, 2005, 11:02 AM   #168
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Interesting.
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Old December 11th, 2005, 04:25 AM   #169
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The Current South Ferry Station:
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Old December 11th, 2005, 05:39 AM   #170
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This sounds like the fort in the movie National Treasure.......
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Old December 11th, 2005, 03:34 PM   #171
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What will they do with the fort now? Would their be other pieces of history nearby then?
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Old December 11th, 2005, 07:58 PM   #172
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Is there any rendering and the new position of the new South Ferry Station? Thx!
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Old December 11th, 2005, 08:21 PM   #173
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Thats' interesting news.
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Old December 11th, 2005, 08:22 PM   #174
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any pics of that wall?
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Old December 11th, 2005, 09:59 PM   #175
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Is there any rendering and the new position of the new South Ferry Station? Thx!
The MTA has something on their website. The renderings have changed since I was there last, but the details are still the same.

http://www.mta.nyc.ny.us/capconstr/sft/index.html
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Old December 11th, 2005, 10:03 PM   #176
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This sounds like the fort in the movie National Treasure.......
I thought exactly the same thing! LOL!
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Old December 12th, 2005, 07:32 AM   #177
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The city must not experience the horror of a terrorist bomb just to learn the value of bag inspections. 4 years ago In manila a cell of Bin-laden's group set of several bombs in sucession the most deadly of which was a bomb which went of inside a crowded train as it was pulling into a crowded station at manilas yellow line, as far as i can remember 20 people died and many more were injured, after the bombing the police instituted strict checks at every station, no person is allowed into the station without passing through a security check. There were no complaints because everyone knew it was for their own safety......searches serve to intimidate terrorists into thinking twice before doing their dirty job that is the main purpose not politics,or even finding a bomb, to strike terror to the terrorists. So far it has worked and has kept manila's 3 lines safe.
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Old December 12th, 2005, 07:28 PM   #178
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It seems like a PR exercise if you ask me. Aimed at giving the perception the authorities are on the ball and looking out for your safety. I have yet to be stopped on the london tube and have my bag searched - I think I would refuse - not sure what would then happen.

As already mentioned, if you had a bomb in your bag with the intention of killing both yourself and others surely being stopped and searched is not a deterrant but rather a glitch in your plan which you'll ultimately bring forward so to speak.
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Old December 15th, 2005, 08:46 PM   #179
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The best NYC subway route planner yet! w/google

http://www.brail.org/transit/nycgoogle.html

Great google hack-

Choose day, and time of day.

Then simply click where you start, and click where you want to go and it shows you step by step route and estimated time.
It even tells you if just walking is faster.

Check it out.
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Old December 16th, 2005, 04:39 AM   #180
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FACTBOX - New York City Subway System

A look at the NYC subway system, by the numbers
By The Associated Press
15 December 2005

A look at some numbers behind the New York subway system:

6,200: The number of subway cars.
352 million: The number of miles traveled by the fleet in 2004.
1.4 billion: Annual ridership.
4.5 million: Average daily ridership.
31: The number of miles from one end of the A train to the other.
468: The number of subway stations.
660: The miles of track in passenger service.
$2: The amount for a one-way fare.
5cents: Single fare in 1904 when the subway went into service.
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