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Old June 17th, 2007, 06:45 PM   #61
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Wow!!! Amazing~~~

Wuhan is beyond my imagination!!!
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Old June 18th, 2007, 12:04 AM   #62
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[QUOTE=LordChaos80;10767768]
AREA OF WUHAN WANGJIADUN CBD

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The Wangjiadun CBD will be built on the site of this airport?
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Old June 18th, 2007, 12:22 AM   #63
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@Jim:

Yup. Correct.

Edit: Also see this pic!


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Old June 18th, 2007, 12:40 AM   #64
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So, should the airport be decommissioned and removed in order to make way for the CBD?
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Old June 18th, 2007, 12:52 AM   #65
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As far as I know the airport has already been levelled a few months ago.
Here`s a pic showing the official ceremony when Construction of Wangjiadun CBD started:



Anyway, I'll be back in Wuhan in August and of course I also wanna inspect Wangjiadun Area on my own and post some pics here.

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Old June 18th, 2007, 01:36 AM   #66
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@LordChaos80, I want to add all those supertalls in those diagrams to my China's supertall list as conceptual proposals. Could you please type their names in hanzi and/or translating them into English? I would be very, very pleased ^_^
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Old June 18th, 2007, 01:43 AM   #67
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there were articles in serious Wuhan newspapers recently confirming one building with a height of 500m as well as two towers exceeding 400m.
I doubt .Who's the developer?

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In China, there`s nothing special about 200-300m scrapers anymore...
Really?I think 200-300m towers is the main contributor for a great skyline.

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Only a pity that Polycultural Plaza obviously has been cut down... but still a nice building!
That's bad news.Poly started several big projects in China recently.
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Old June 18th, 2007, 02:55 AM   #68
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@LordChaos80, I want to add all those supertalls in those diagrams to my China's supertall list as conceptual proposals. Could you please type their names in hanzi and/or translating them into English? I would be very, very pleased ^_^
Done. All red marked buildings within this pic:



武汉国际商务中心 // Wuhan guoji shangwu zhongxin // Wuhan Int'l Business Center
武汉国际金融大厦 // Wuhan guoji jinrong dasha // Wuhan Int'l Finance Tower
武汉剑楼双子塔 // Wuhan jianlou shuangzi ta // Wuhan Blade Building Twin Towers (???)
武汉商务服务中心 // Wuhan shangwu fuwu zhongxin // Wuhan Business and Service Center
汉江豪庭A/B座 // Hanjiang haoting A/B zuo // Han River Supreme Court (building A&B) (???)
CBD双子A/B塔 // CBD shuangzi A/B ta // CBD Twin Towers (tower A&B)
武汉未来大厦 // Wuhan weilai dasha // Wuhan Future Tower
扬子江广场 // Yangzijiang guangchang // Yangtze River Square
汉口发展银行 // Hankou fazhan yinhang // Hankou Development Bank
武汉中心广场 // Wuhan zhongxin guangchang // Wuhan Central Plaza
锦绣长江 // Jinxiu changjiang // Splendid Yangtze River
汉口天地 // Hankou tiandi // Hankou Heaven and Earth
国际信息大厦 // Guoji xinxi dasha // International News Tower
保利文化广场 // Baoli wenhua guangchang // Poly Culture Square

( Does anyone have better ideas about how to translate those marked with (???) )

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Old June 18th, 2007, 04:57 AM   #69
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1) I doubt .Who's the developer?

2) Really?I think 200-300m towers is the main contributor for a great skyline.

3) That's bad news.Poly started several big projects in China recently.


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1) About the final heights of these buildings: We will find out the truth sooner or later... Let`s all hope these numbers are true!

About the developer: Of course, such a huge transformation project does not rely on one single private developer only but a on wide mix of governmental enterprises, investment banks, planning companies, etc. ... There are two enterprises founded by Wuhan City Government, one is called 武汉市汉口机场迁建开发有限公司 (see: http://www.hkjcqj.com/) and in charge for the destruction of the old airport and preparation of the whole Wangjiadun Area, the other more important one is 武汉王家墩中央商务区建设投资股份有限公司 (see: http://www.whcbd.com/) and responsible for central coordination of the whole future CBD's development. Master Planning for the CBD's overall layout (including traffic concept, landscape design etc.) was done by German Obermeyer Group, but meanwhile got revisited several times (see: http://www.opb.de/index.php?id=106)

Original masterplan by Obermeyer (2003)


Other international companies like SOM, Atkins and DesignInc. provided further planning and advice. Just visit WHCBD`s website to get hands on more information.


2) Yes. I agree and even think that much smaller buildings are also important for a great skyline. I only meant that it is no sensation anymore when highrises between 200 and 300m get announced in China... Therefore why would it not be realistic if further buildings of this size were proposed to be built in Wuhan?


3) Perhaps u got me wrong here also. I didn´t mean that Polyculture Square was cancelled. It has only been cut down considering its height - obviously not going to exceed 200m anymore.

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If u have RealPlayer or Real Alternative installed on ur PC, u can watch two video presentations of Wuhan CBD here:

http://www.whcbd.com/Html/sptpxcc/index.htm (just click each item)

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Old June 18th, 2007, 05:19 AM   #70
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About the developer: Of course, such a huge transformation project does not rely on one single private developer only but a on wide mix of governmental enterprises, investment banks, planning companies, etc. ... There are two enterprises founded by Wuhan City Government, one is called 武汉市汉口机场迁建开发有限公司 (see: http://www.hkjcqj.com/) and in charge for the destruction of the old airport and preparation of the whole Wangjiadun Area, the other more important one is 武汉王家墩中央商务区建设投资股份有限公司 (see: http://www.whcbd.com/) and responsible for central coordination of the whole future CBD's development. Master Planning for the CBD's overall layout (including traffic concept, landscape design etc.) was done by German Obermeyer Group, but meanwhile got revisited several times (see: http://www.opb.de/index.php?id=106)

Original masterplan by Obermeyer (2003)


Other international companies like SOM, Atkins and DesignInc. provided further planning and advice. Just visit WHCBD`s website to get hands on more information.

I think You meant this project has not found a investor yet?!Generally speaking,govtal company does not invest directly on an office tower in particular such a big commercial property project.They are only in charge of demolishing the old buildings and helping resettle people funded by developers.


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3) Perhaps u got me wrong here also. I didn´t mean that Polyculture Square was cancelled. It has only been cut down considering its height - obviously not going to exceed 200m anymore.
I was saying Poly started several big projects meaning super talls like a 300m tall super tall in Chongqing.
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Old June 18th, 2007, 05:25 AM   #71
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u asked for a developer, not investor...

Shareholders involved in backing up capital for WHBCD so far are these real estate and construction companies:

China Pan-sea Holdings Co., Ltd,
Established in 1988, is a national investment holdings company. Its main business covers financial industry, real estate (including the construction of basic facilities), enterprising investment and technological industry. Registered place: Beijing

Guangcai Construction (Group) Co., Ltd,
Established in 1989, is a listed company and a comprehensive first-class enterprise for real estate development in Shenzhen. Registered place: Shenzhen

Beijing Zhongguancun Development & Construction Co. Ltd
A branch company of “Zhongguancun science and technology” which takes construction work and real estate development as its main body It was set up by Beijing Zhongguancun Sci-tech Development (holdings) Co., Ltd. The company was formally founded on July 18, 2000. Registered place: Beijing

Beijing Stone Juguang High-tech Development (Holdings) Co., Ltd
A high-tech sesearch and development company set up jointly by Giant Investment Co., Ltd, Guangcai Career Investment (Group) Co., Ltd and Stone Information Product Technological Company. The company was founded in December 2001. Registered place: Beijing

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Old June 18th, 2007, 03:41 PM   #72
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Thank you very much, LordChaos80. Just post all the info you find, pelase!!


So, to sum up:

Wuhan International Business Center 1: 372m, 70 fl
Wuhan International Business Center 2: 500m, 100 fl
Wuhan International Finance Tower: 447m, 108 fl
Wuhan Blade Building Twin Towers: 431m, 90~ fl
Wuhan Business and Service Center: 420m, 88 fl~
Han River Supreme Court A: 370m, 71 fl
Han River Supreme Court B: 370m, 71 fl
CBD Twin Towers 1: 360m, 70~ fl
CBD Twin Towers 2: 360m, 70~ fl
Wuhan Future Tower 1: 360m: 70~ fl
Wuhan Future Tower 2: 301m: 60~ fl
(Minsheng Bank Building)
Yangtze River Square: 310m, 53 fl
Hankou Development Bank 1: 303m, 60~ fl
Hankou Development Bank 2: 303m, 60~ fl



武汉剑楼双子塔 / Wuhan Blade Building Twin Towers < This is just one single building, right?

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P.S.: Is it only me or might we see some of the biggest boxes worldwide so far (buildings No. 2,3,4) ??
No.2 (武汉国际金融大厦) is the one looking like a flame you see on the left here. Not a box




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If u have RealPlayer or Real Alternative installed on ur PC, u can watch two video presentations of Wuhan CBD here:

http://www.whcbd.com/Html/sptpxcc/index.htm (just click each item)
I've downloaded the video #2. I'll upload it to youtube later. However, I can't see video #1
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Old June 18th, 2007, 06:54 PM   #73
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u asked for a developer, not investor...

Shareholders involved in backing up capital for WHBCD so far are these real estate and construction companies:

China Pan-sea Holdings Co., Ltd,
Established in 1988, is a national investment holdings company. Its main business covers financial industry, real estate (including the construction of basic facilities), enterprising investment and technological industry. Registered place: Beijing

Guangcai Construction (Group) Co., Ltd,
Established in 1989, is a listed company and a comprehensive first-class enterprise for real estate development in Shenzhen. Registered place: Shenzhen

Beijing Zhongguancun Development & Construction Co. Ltd
A branch company of “Zhongguancun science and technology” which takes construction work and real estate development as its main body It was set up by Beijing Zhongguancun Sci-tech Development (holdings) Co., Ltd. The company was formally founded on July 18, 2000. Registered place: Beijing

Beijing Stone Juguang High-tech Development (Holdings) Co., Ltd
A high-tech sesearch and development company set up jointly by Giant Investment Co., Ltd, Guangcai Career Investment (Group) Co., Ltd and Stone Information Product Technological Company. The company was founded in December 2001. Registered place: Beijing
Hmmmmm...Let's wait to see...
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Old June 18th, 2007, 07:11 PM   #74
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Old June 18th, 2007, 08:26 PM   #75
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i can only say WOW! hopefully all these supertalls will be build, Wuhan would look gigantic with them
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武汉剑楼双子塔 / Wuhan Blade Building Twin Towers < This is just one single building, right?
Yes, seems to be a complex featuring two towers on one shared base.


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No.2 (武汉国际金融大厦) is the one looking like a flame you see on the left here. Not a box
Yeah, u r right. It looks even better from that angle.



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I've downloaded the video #2. I'll upload it to youtube later. However, I can't see video #1
Video1 is still up there and working fine. But it is *.rm-Format. Therefore u really need Real Media codec. I recommend Real Alterntative instead of the original Real Player as the latter contains spyware and other shit. U can get the good one here. Follow those buttons marked with "Zum Download" - don`t worry - the software itself is of course in English :

http://www.chip.de/downloads/c1_down...389068&v=3600&

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Old June 21st, 2007, 02:23 PM   #77
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Thanks for your help I installed the Real Alternative and so but still the same. I can only see one of the videos. Are you sure you can watch both of them? Is it very strange I can see one video while the other isn't showing.

By the way, I uploaded to youtube the video I could see.
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@Zorg:

Yeah, I just tried it again and it is still working for me... Try to click the Play Button in the lower left several times. Unfortunately I see no way how to download the whole file as it seems to be protected in some way.

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China Overseas Building (crappy translation, sorry): 219m, 55 floors
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Yeah, I just tried it again and it is still working for me... Try to click the Play Button in the lower left several times. Unfortunately I see no way how to download the whole file as it seems to be protected in some way.
It worked at last. I managed to download it from the website I tryed to upload it back to youtube, but it showed a rare error, I guess they don't allow .rm so I'll convert it to another type on sunday when I come back from my weekend trip.

Thanks a lot for your help ~~
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