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Old August 15th, 2012, 05:10 PM   #41
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They sure are barbarians but it doesn't seem like the walls keep them outside
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Old June 16th, 2014, 06:44 PM   #42
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This thread seems to be rather old, but anyway I wanted to express how I feel about it.
I have never seen it in person, although I hope to see it when I go to Lund next semester. From what I have seen about it, I would say that, even though I am not a fan of repreducing historic architecture, and it does seem a little fake in this case, what I like the most about this is its urbanism. Medieval urbanism is fortunately starting to be appreciated now, after centuries of dismissal. Narrow, labyrinthine streets make a city much more pedestrian friendly, agreeable, interesting and compact, so it's good that they are being rediscovered as a positive value.
After this experiment with traditional urbanism and historic architecture, I would certainly love seeing more examples of traditional urbanism combined with truly modern architecture.
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Old January 13th, 2015, 02:12 AM   #43
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Old January 13th, 2015, 12:12 PM   #44
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I wonder if that house in the middle of the picture was really built by timber framing (Fachwerk) technology or this black and white framework is just the facade decoration?
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Old January 19th, 2015, 05:34 PM   #45
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Personally, I can live and actually like tall buildings.

I don't mind having neighbors above or below me, usually.

I do mind, and would not like, to live on a narrow street where my windows is smacked on the street, with pedestrians peeking inside with a mere turn of the head, and where I could see the interior of another house in close proximity like that.

Result would be curtains closed most of the time and a sense of lack of privacy, especially at ground level.

There are issues with too much shade at northern latitudes as well.

I dislike the lack of greenery within the development, making it just a cluster of old-looking houses.

If I lived at ground level I'd like a 4m-long front garden that forms a little buffer from the sidewalk.

There are people who probably like that, though.

So I think it is good that different urban forms are built for different markets, so people can choose.
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Old January 20th, 2015, 09:30 AM   #46
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Does anyone know if they plan to expand the city or many people wish to live there?
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Old January 20th, 2015, 09:31 AM   #47
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Most people prefer this kind of architecture over modernist. Some people say it is fake but so is neoclassical architecture and nobody seems to mind about that one...

I actually think it looks pretty good. In my country we have Brandevoort, a district of Helmond (near Eindhoven), which looks a lot more fake than Jakriborg does. It will eventually be home to 18,000 people:

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It is stupid to claim it is fake. Would modern jazz or classical music be fake too? No.

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Old January 20th, 2015, 07:31 PM   #48
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I think there's a fine line between using traditional architecture, and old urbanism concepts, on the one hand, and creating something that feels artificial, on the other hand. A good (bad) example would be that alpine village clone they built in China.

That said, i think a lot of architects and intellectuals freak out when they see someone building something in traditional/classical style, or, even worse, a whole development in that style. In their minds, for some reason, it is a big no no to do so, even if people think old architecture looks and functions better.

Also, i think the term "fake"is somewhat misused in architecture. It would be justified if someone tried to copy a building or a city and try to make it appear something that it is not, like they did in China, but just because you build a Fachwerkhaus, or a Neoclassical theater, doesn't make it "fake"
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Old January 23rd, 2015, 04:23 PM   #49
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Most people prefer this kind of architecture over modernist. Some people say it is fake but so is neoclassical architecture and nobody seems to mind about that one...

I actually think it looks pretty good. In my country we have Brandevoort, a district of Helmond (near Eindhoven), which looks a lot more fake than Jakriborg does. It will eventually be home to 18,000 people:

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I'd say in Holland the border between "classical" and "modern" architecture is the thinnest of all. That's because traditional Dutch houses are rather close to modern standards (I only mean their exterior appearance, of course) due to simple forms, lack of decoration and so on. Eliminate tiled roofs from the houses at this picture and nobody would call them outdated or fake. And it works with many of really old Dutch buildings too. That's why in Holland new and old architecture tend to blend better than anywhere else.
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Old April 18th, 2015, 03:05 PM   #50
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Some fresh impressions of Jakriborg near Malmö.


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Old April 18th, 2015, 03:23 PM   #51
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This place really got style and doesn't even look loosely kitschy like many other "new towns". It creates a dense town core with that old town feeling, without pretending it's something it just can't be. Well done Berggren brothers!

This is the website of Jakri AB btw: http://www.jakri.se/


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Christmas markets and other lively festivities practically never happen in modernist new settlements:

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Old September 6th, 2015, 01:45 PM   #57
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The town aged really well. If I didn't know any better, I would think these houses are standing at least 100 years.
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Old September 8th, 2015, 10:02 AM   #58
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The town aged really well. If I didn't know any better, I would think these houses are standing at least 100 years.
Youre right. But they really shoud add some more developement at its north and west. It looks to alien how it sits there into the fields without any context at the moment...

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That's what they intend to do, for all I know. But at some point they need to somehow "encapsule" the core, so it won't look like some Disney place. A green belt surrounding the core would do perfectly fine then. Surrounding that, some 19th century style higher, denser, more block-like development could follow. It'd likely feel like an actually grown town at some point. Well, it would be a "grown town" then, following the principles urbanism should follow.

Regarding the patina: The houses are aging well thanks to the faithful use of traditional materials. You can easily spot how there's virtually no DIY-store crap present. Chalk colours, mud, bricks, proper tiles, iron, wood, ...
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