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Old October 29th, 2006, 12:39 AM   #61
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It seems to me that this tower would have a pretty good chance of being built. None of the elements of design seem unrealistic. 600m is an achieveable height, assuming the ground proves to be suitable for such a tower.

I think this tower is very, very well planned. It illustrates a good example of a "mixed use" tower. Its design is simple, yet elegant, and still sophisticated. And the architects have a very good structural design as well. It could easily become a symbol for Russia as their economy and nation continue to develop.

I'm excited to see how the project progresses!
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Old October 29th, 2006, 02:02 AM   #62
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i don't see how this or the LBT or is a rip of of the transamerica pyramid...as if the transamerica corporation invented the pyramid concept.
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Old October 29th, 2006, 11:35 AM   #63
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INVENTED THE PYRAMID ?!?!?

What about Egypt ? Pyramid ?
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Old October 29th, 2006, 02:51 PM   #64
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APPROPRIATE SITE ?????

i do not think this location of the project is proportional to its size and majority , IT SEEMS THAT STREETS R VERY NARROW , SOMETHING LIKE THAT MUST HAVE MORE AREA AND SPACE SO AS TO BE ABLE TO ADAPT WITH THE VOLUME OF COMPRESSION OF TENS OF CARS AND LOT OF PEOPLE
... OR WHAT DO U THINK ?
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Old October 29th, 2006, 05:51 PM   #65
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first of all i think that there was no necessary to use big colorfic font.

second - there are 10 underground floors planned for parking and other stuff. as you could notice there is a freeway just in 50 meters. and there is one currently but it will be a junction of three freways.
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Old October 29th, 2006, 07:10 PM   #66
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The fact is I would tell, its remember me a bit the LBT and not "its remember me a lot"....
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Old October 29th, 2006, 08:46 PM   #67
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This is my favorite building right now. I would take this in an instant before Burj Dubai or SWFC
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Old October 29th, 2006, 08:47 PM   #68
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The Transamerica Pyramid has four faces and a square base.

LBT does not have a square base and it has more than four faces. The faces do not meet at a common vertex (point) so therefore it is not a pyramid.

Let's try not compare all these buildings just because they taper and are pointy.

Each should be discussed on their own merits on which note I would say that Russia Tower is a very fine design, and a worthy pinnacle to Moscow's skyline.
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Old October 30th, 2006, 06:03 AM   #69
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great !!!! that pic show construction started already !
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after burjD, this is my fav!
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Old October 30th, 2006, 11:13 PM   #71
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After Burj dubai, my favourite is Al Burj.
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Old October 30th, 2006, 11:24 PM   #72
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Europe rulez . Amazing Hmmmm ( Russia Tower Sears Tower)
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Old October 30th, 2006, 11:38 PM   #73
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OCTOBER 9, 2006 GLOBAL BUSINESS

The Russian Towers Are Coming

Foreign investors are getting in on projects from Moscow to Novosibirsk

Not too many years ago, Moscow's skyline consisted of little more than the onion domes of the Kremlin and the Gothic spires of the Stalin-era buildings known as the Seven Sisters. But today, a forest of cranes dominates a 250-acre stretch along the Moscow River, where the 93-story Federation Tower -- soon to be Europe's tallest -- is rising. A few blocks away, the European Trade Center, with 160 stores, a nine-screen cinema, and a swimming pool, is nearing completion. And on the city's outskirts, the 54-story Triumph Palace last year began offering luxury residences to wealthy Russians. All across Moscow, new office towers and apartment blocks are transforming Russia's capital.

While much of the boom is due to oil money, overseas investors are getting in on the action, too. This year, foreign investment funds are likely to sock as much as $1.5 billion into Russian real estate projects, nearly double last year's level, according to real estate consultant CB Richard Ellis Noble Gibbons. "Russia is clearly a key market for us," says John Carrafiell, global co-head of Morgan Stanley Real Estate, which in July bought 10% of developer RosEuroDevelopment. The Russian group plans investments worth $3 billion over the next five years, including office towers and shopping malls in major regional cities, and a $500 million campus for high-tech firms in the Siberian city of Novosibirsk.

The attraction? Booming business and rising personal wealth mean that demand is up for all types of property. Top-quality office space in Moscow now rents for $95 a square foot -- two-thirds higher than in Midtown Manhattan. That's bad news for Moscow's business tenants, but it's a boon for real estate investors, who are seeing annual returns that top 10%, vs. 4% to 5% in Western Europe and the U.S.

Morgan Stanley isn't alone in trying to cash in on the growth. Austria's Meinl European Land Ltd. in March paid $508 million for four Moscow hypermarkets. British fund Raven Russia Ltd. raised $266 million for Russian real estate last year. And London-based Fleming Family & Partners three years ago launched a $60 million Russian real estate investment fund with money from U.S. investors such as the General Electric Pension Trust (GE ). Now the group is raising a second fund, worth at least $150 million, and hopes to invest $1 billion in the country over the next two years. Russia "gives substantial upside compared to Western Europe," says Nikolai Karetnikov, Fleming's asset manager in Moscow.

One problem, though, is finding projects that meet Western standards. Investors remain concerned about the quality of Russian construction and the reliability of partners. Until recently, foreign investment funds put money into completed buildings only, steering clear of the risks connected with construction and development -- a murky business in Russia. Construction projects typically require more than 300 separate permits and licenses. It's a red-tape barrier that opens up big possibilities for corruption.

But as property prices rise and bargains grow scarce, investors are starting to take on greater risk for higher returns. They're now keen to fund construction, where annual returns of at least 20% are the norm. They're also targeting smaller cities such as Novosibirsk, Ekaterinburg, and Krasnoyarsk, which are largely virgin territory. "The Russian regions are now much more attractive for investors than Moscow," says Natalia Korotayeva, commercial director of RosEuroDevelopment. "You can still buy a very good site and build a very good project at low cost."

Indeed, as Moscow real estate prices continue their ascent, there are growing fears that the market will overshoot. Russia's reliance on volatile oil heightens the chance of unexpected shocks. But analysts play down the risk of a commercial real estate bubble. Demand continues to outstrip supply by a wide margin, says Irina Florova, head of research at CBRE in Moscow. While Paris and London each have 300 million to 400 million square feet of modern office space, more populous Moscow has just over 50 million -- much of it Soviet-era construction that lacks air conditioning, sophisticated communications, and sufficient space for parking. Says Florova: "We don't think we will have any crisis soon."
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Old November 2nd, 2006, 08:19 PM   #74
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Tha's nice to see that Moscow skyline is chnaging too fast, everyday the people of Moscow are eyewitness of all these changes, and I think that the Russia Tower is only the begining for more tall tower in Moscow and in all important cities in Russia.
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Old November 2nd, 2006, 08:39 PM   #75
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I am very happy for Moscow.

I reckon this proposal is far better from all these bland tower blocks in Dubai and not far from reaching the quality of London skyscrapers such as Shard London Bridge, Bishopsgate or Leadenhall.
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Old November 2nd, 2006, 08:44 PM   #76
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Old November 2nd, 2006, 09:15 PM   #77
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Thanks very much to everybody for the sencere comments
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Old November 18th, 2006, 12:10 AM   #78
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citynext.ru has just published more exact height - 612 meters
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Old November 18th, 2006, 12:23 AM   #79
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cool, 12 meters more!!
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Old November 18th, 2006, 01:06 AM   #80
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Perhaps they just wanted to slip it past the Chicago Spire.
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