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Old October 29th, 2007, 04:14 PM   #821
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That is - diaphragm wall. Seems to be French term. So this wall is going to be 57 meters deep. Foundation is going to be 66 meters deep. It will be built using semi top-down method (top-down method with open excavation in the middle of pit). Open excavation is 37m deep.



According to the local district newspaper Naresne height of the tower is 612,20 meters with 120 floors. Observation deck will occupy last 7 floors.
In Chicago it is referred to as a slurry wall, this (French ?) diagram fits exactly what is being done at the Chicago Spire site. The description of "semi top-down" may also fit how the CS will be built.

The device at the Russia tower does not use a clamshell scoop but a chain of buckets - 57 meters is very deep.

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Old October 29th, 2007, 04:44 PM   #822
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And, if you look a couple pages back, or just click here you will see, that this building does in fact have real Russian cultural elements.
OMG, the russians invented the TRIANGLE!

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I think the building is modern without any special cultural link - which isn't a bad think IMHO. It could be build in chicago or shanghai and would fit in.
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Old October 29th, 2007, 04:46 PM   #823
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Yes, slurry wall is an American term. In Russian it is wall in ground. But a source that provided me this info was saying about diaphragm wall, so I couldn't understand what is it.
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Old October 29th, 2007, 04:50 PM   #824
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OMG, the russian invented the TRIANGLE!

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There is also shorter version of RT is planned in Moscow. About 150 meters tall.
http://funkyimg.com/u/72907PICT0023.jpg
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Old October 29th, 2007, 11:27 PM   #825
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, looks like a quarter of the RT
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Old October 30th, 2007, 12:51 AM   #826
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OMG, the russians invented the TRIANGLE!

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I think the building is modern without any special cultural link - which isn't a bad think IMHO. It could be build in chicago or shanghai and would fit in.
Not saying they invented the triangle... just saying that there are some cultural elements. And of course, as with most modern skyscrapers, they could fit in just about anywhere.

I was just making a point that there are some cultural elements. That's all. Doesn't mean the triangle or anything like that isn't found anywhere else in the world.
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Old October 31st, 2007, 05:46 AM   #827
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great news, thank you Coth
--Skyscrapers are the best that could happen in my life--
Skyscrapers, huh? 1975 I was working in Parque Central, Caracas. In, not on. The way to my office, for me, used be a reliable highlight of the day. I loved the place. So awesome! And the highrise towers weren't even ready. Still under construction.

That year I also stood the first time on the view level of the Empire State Buildung. I liked it, too. I only came back there in 1995, with my wife and a German client with his wife, since it was the firts time for the 3 of them. But I didn't like it as much as during my first visit.

Nothing had changed. NY had been in a 20 year time wrap. Meanwhile I had other constructions that awed me far more, growing all the time, reliable highlights of my life: my first 2 grandchildren. By now there are 4 of them. And last week a brand new construction was introduced to the world:

My first great grandson. Pierre Zenon, in France. I was infinitely more awed than from all the impressive highrise constructions I've seen in my life so far, including those that aren't ready yet. Try this for kicks. I'm sure skyscrapers won't be any longer the best thing in your life.
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Old October 31st, 2007, 07:01 AM   #828
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You mean the 70's when most skyscrapers were boxes. In the 30's they were works of art.
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Old October 31st, 2007, 01:39 PM   #829
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Not saying they invented the triangle... just saying that there are some cultural elements.
I was just kidding

But even though you could derive the tower's design from most cultural backgrounds, including russian -- that doesn't matter because the 'culture' changes with every building build. So if you would build dozens of tall pagodas in moscow now, in a hundred years or more everybody would consider tall pagodas a 'typical russian element'.
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Old November 7th, 2007, 03:12 AM   #830
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Old November 7th, 2007, 04:00 AM   #831
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oh boy....moscow rocks
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Old November 7th, 2007, 04:54 AM   #832
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is this the sight of the building?
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Hey Herr Lind, were you holding a light saber when you took that picture!?
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Old November 7th, 2007, 01:29 PM   #834
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Jedi Knight that likes skyscrapers? Nice to know...

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Old November 7th, 2007, 05:08 PM   #835
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I think Igor did this
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Old November 17th, 2007, 12:54 AM   #836
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So, they are protecting the separators from snow. I guess it means that they almost finished assembling equipment since they wont be able to use crane anymore with this tent covering it all.
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Old November 17th, 2007, 02:06 AM   #837
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So, they are protecting the separators from snow. I guess it means that they almost finished assembling equipment since they wont be able to use crane anymore with this tent covering it all.
That seperator is huge - why does Moscow need one, but the Chicago Spire ( also doing slurry walls ) not ? true Moscows are much deeper, but I haven't seen even a small version of this, and the slurrying has started here. ( but not the snow, yet ).

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Old November 23rd, 2007, 02:48 AM   #839
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