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Old June 14th, 2009, 06:15 AM   #1441
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The cancellation of this project is really a shame, but as far as i understand it, there's still a glimmer of hope, but it's close to 0% ?
But maybe the carpark idea isn't the worst idea for RT site usage, because if they'd instead built a smaller tower (below 300m-still huge , but compared to Rt it's rather small), the prospect that they will reconsider RT to be built again wouldn't be there, while with a carpark there's still the possibility that they will reconsider it and RT might despite all get actually built sometimes in the future. So let's hope that when the russian economy improves construction on RT resumes, even though it is very very unlikely now....
Certainly it is an awesome , very interesting design, and if Rt would be built it would put Moscow's skyline into the world's best!
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Old June 14th, 2009, 12:37 PM   #1442
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No, I don't really. I've already seen this article.
This article don“t have any sources for it“s information. Come back when you will have a statement from Moscow officials, and not some random dude on teh internets.
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Old June 14th, 2009, 12:39 PM   #1443
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The're not going to leave the site and wait, they decided to built carpark there. Its clear its cancelled.
Post credible source of your information.
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Old June 14th, 2009, 01:33 PM   #1444
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If all that news from all that articles are all bullshit, shouldn't "Moscow officials" deny that saing "No, its not cancelled, fools!" ? Really, if they're planning to build it in future they should do that. And if they dont going to build it maybe they just don't want to admit they faild with that one?
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Old June 14th, 2009, 07:21 PM   #1445
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Some people should learn that not everything posted on internet is true.
Surely, nothing bad can come from some site giving false information on status of RT, but it can get really nasty when people believe everything they read in more important cases.
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Old June 17th, 2009, 07:47 AM   #1446
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http://www.architectsjournal.co.uk/f...203452.article

http://www.propertywire.com/news/eur...906123208.html

http://www.themovechannel.com/news/f6f89878-1dba/

Cancelled!!!!!!
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Old June 17th, 2009, 09:00 AM   #1447
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can you read a little more careful this thread? it isn't, it's just stupid jornalists
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Old June 17th, 2009, 10:59 AM   #1448
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Lol. Post sources man, sources. Not diffirent sites stealing news from each other.
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Old June 17th, 2009, 11:01 AM   #1449
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Moderators, put *Postponed* to project
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Как только проедят напечатанные амерами баблосы, нефтя будет падвацать, хас папиисяд, а толяр - пасто диривянных. И ражко сразу развалиццо. Патаму шо она сичаз разваливаиццо, хотя нефтя ещё не падвацать
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Old June 18th, 2009, 02:17 PM   #1450
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IMO it shouldn't be cancelled as we still don't have credible source!
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Old June 19th, 2009, 11:51 AM   #1451
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Lol. Post sources man, sources. Not diffirent sites stealing news from each other.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...-car-park.html

Russia Tower was due to have been the crowning glory of Moskva Citi, Moscow's answer to London's Canary Wharf, but has become the latest victim of the country's devastating financial crisis.

"We have taken the decision not to build it," said Alexei Vedenskiy, head of special projects in the Moscow city government. "As to how to use this space, it will either be a park or car park."

Russia Tower was due to symbolise the Russian capital's wealth, putting it at the forefront of modern architecture. Lord Foster said it would become the world's tallest naturally ventilated building.

But the estimated £1.2 billion price tag proved too high for the project developer.

Lord Foster's firm, Foster and Partners, declined to comment on the elegant skyscraper's possible replacement with a car park housing up to 3,000 cars.

"We have not had confirmation of the project's outcome and the client is looking into a number of different options for the site," a spokesman said.

However, the Moscow authorities confirmed to The Daily Telegraph that the project will not proceed.
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Old June 19th, 2009, 11:56 AM   #1452
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can you read a little more careful this thread? it isn't, it's just stupid jornalists
as you can see not so stupid...
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Old June 19th, 2009, 12:59 PM   #1453
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SE9, for god sake, Moscow Government does not own the plot.

This interview was given in late april

http://www.rbcdaily.ru/2009/04/28/market/412546

It does say "The project is on hold due to financial problems of Russian Land. Therefore we are looking into alternative variants. We are calling to build parking or a park. We will forward our proposal to Luzhkov. But at the same time we do not refuse Russia Tower project".

Luzhkov has also Mirax proposal. So far it was announced Russian Land is negotiating with Snegiri Developement. They have reached agreement at least on management over Russian Land, but did not yet reached agreement on plots. There is also Dresdner Bank can take over the plot - it was crediting 0 phase of Russia Tower, but gone into difficult position after crisis and was unable to open next credit line. There was rumors Sberbank was in the project, however without confirmations.

So far there are no any decisions, not on Russian Land side, not on city administration side. Car parking was just a proposal.

Mirax has got federal support recently and since Luzhkov's armchair is very cranky last time he can force Russian Land to approve Mirax proposal.
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Old June 19th, 2009, 09:46 PM   #1454
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Russia Tower was due to have been the crowning glory of Moskva Citi, Moscow's answer to London's Canary Wharf, but has become the latest victim of the country's devastating financial crisis.

"We have taken the decision not to build it," said Alexei Vedenskiy, head of special projects in the Moscow city government. "As to how to use this space, it will either be a park or car park."

Russia Tower was due to symbolise the Russian capital's wealth, putting it at the forefront of modern architecture. Lord Foster said it would become the world's tallest naturally ventilated building.

But the estimated £1.2 billion price tag proved too high for the project developer.

Lord Foster's firm, Foster and Partners, declined to comment on the elegant skyscraper's possible replacement with a car park housing up to 3,000 cars.

"We have not had confirmation of the project's outcome and the client is looking into a number of different options for the site," a spokesman said.

However, the Moscow authorities confirmed to The Daily Telegraph that the project will not proceed.
Thats sad to hear. Well, there sill nothing preventing project from restarting after current crisis ends. Also, this decision may not be final, since ownership of the project after collapse of the developer is still undecided.

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SE9, for god sake, Moscow Government does not own the plot.

This interview was given in late april

http://www.rbcdaily.ru/2009/04/28/market/412546

It does say "The project is on hold due to financial problems of Russian Land. Therefore we are looking into alternative variants. We are calling to build parking or a park. We will forward our proposal to Luzhkov. But at the same time we do not refuse Russia Tower project".
Reports are so far conflicting. We should wait.

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Old June 19th, 2009, 10:05 PM   #1455
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Moscow's answer to London's Canary Wharf
Btw, lol
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Old June 20th, 2009, 12:34 AM   #1456
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Btw, lol
Don't you know the World is spining around the UK?
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Old June 20th, 2009, 11:47 PM   #1457
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Is time to take this fantastic design and build-it in Dubai...
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Old June 21st, 2009, 12:06 AM   #1458
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Old June 21st, 2009, 12:07 AM   #1459
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Old June 21st, 2009, 12:21 AM   #1460
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Exactly, its sad to waist that great design.
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