daily menu » rate the banner | guess the city | one on oneforums map | privacy policy | DMCA | news magazine | posting guidelines

Go Back   SkyscraperCity > World Development News Forums > Supertalls

Supertalls Discussions of projects under construction between 300-599m/1,000-1,999ft tall.
» Proposed Supertalls



Global Announcement

As a general reminder, please respect others and respect copyrights. Go here to familiarize yourself with our posting policy.


Reply

 
Thread Tools
Old November 28th, 2009, 03:53 AM   #1501
TheFuturistic
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 6,114
Likes (Received): 3059

Western media tend to depict Russia as a war lover, gunmaker but I've been living in Moscow for almost a decade as an expat and I'll tell the truth:
Russia will not pose any threat to mankind coz She is too large and her population is shrinking. it will be a big challenge in future for her to hold the land she has.

The core reason of killing (war) is unsolvable conficts between human beings, not the weapons. weapons always are there around us (e.g. knife, siscors ...) if the conflict is solved no knife wil be used to kill. If the conflict is not solved people will fight and they will need weapon, so they will make it or buy it. in the latter case somebody else will make it to sell, of course

where the conflicts come from:
major sources are:
lack of respect and toilerrance to each other especially regarding cultural or religious aspects
lack of resources needed for living ( this is growing faster now as the resource demands of China or India getting bigger and bigger, out of supplies )

and so on

The conflicts are endless and the war is unavoidable from time to time

But I believe that the civilization will prevent the wars that will end human existence
Life is actually getting better if we make a compare today to the past times
TheFuturistic no está en línea   Reply With Quote

Sponsored Links
Old November 29th, 2009, 02:48 PM   #1502
chjbolton
chjbolton
 
chjbolton's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Los Angeles, London, Paris, Munich
Posts: 797
Likes (Received): 75

Let me settle this once and for all (hopefully):
I never said that 'war was a good thing'. Competition is key to advancement.
So far, History has pretty much showed us that no competition had ever been as effective as the will to annihilate your enemy; may it be for right or wrong reasons.
The one possible large-scale exception might just have been the Space Race and therefore, partly at least... the Cold War.

Competition. Not necessarily warfare; but it seems to help quite a bit...
We're only human.
__________________
B O L T O N
chjbolton no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old November 29th, 2009, 05:56 PM   #1503
IsaacJPA
Parahyba
 
IsaacJPA's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Nordeste do Brasil
Posts: 1,066
Likes (Received): 326

I dont understand how it comes to be that high, but stills nice. Awesome and tall.
IsaacJPA no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old November 30th, 2009, 01:50 PM   #1504
Prinz Eugen
Registered User
 
Prinz Eugen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Milan
Posts: 431
Likes (Received): 59

Beautiful tower, maybe too ambitious for the status of current economy. Let's hope they find a new investor asap
Prinz Eugen no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old December 8th, 2009, 11:13 AM   #1505
KaZantiP
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Vancouver
Posts: 888
Likes (Received): 261

А я уверен, что ее построят
И может не так все плохо...

Новости
08.12.2009
Большую часть своих "долгостроев" MIRAX GROUP сдаст в 2010 году


"Вероятнее всего, ни один из проектов MIRAX GROUP сдать в срок не получится - по всем объектам сроки уже сдвинулись. Но вопреки нашим опасениям и опасениям наших дольщиков, все проекты мы сдадим в достаточно сжатые сроки, рассказал в экспертном совете RealEstate.ru Советник председателя совета директоров корпорации MIRAX GROUP по связям с общественностью Михаил Дворкович.

"На объект "Well House на Ленинском" мы надеемся получить постановление правительства о сдаче в эксплуатацию в конце декабря - начале января. В ЖК Mirax Park осталось немного работы, и это небольшие средства, в основном по отделе и благоустройству – в следующем году он будет точно сдан в эксплуатацию",- сказал он.

"Не останавливалось строительство многофункционального комплекса Mirax Plaza в "Москва-Сити", первые очереди которого будут сданы в будущем году. Сбербанк принял положительное решение о кредитовании достройки "Well House на Дубровке", - отметил М.Дворкович.

По его словам, до конца декабря MIRAX GROUP совместно с "Банком МФК", которого корпорация привлекла в качестве финансового консультанта, определит стратегию реструктуризации долговых обязательств и с ним же выстроим дифференцированную систему дофинансирования строительства объектов.

Он уточнил, что в ряде банков на следующей неделе будет решаться вопрос о предоставлении кредитов под достройку некоторых комплексов девелопера.

"В целом, у нас вполне оптимистический настрой и, думаю, в следующем году большинство "недостроев" мы сдадим", - сказал Дворкович.

В задачи Николая Кошмана входит ведение всех строительных проектов, которые в настоящий момент реализуются корпорацией", - отметил советник.

Что касается назначения Николая Кошмана первым зампредом правления MIRAX GROUP по управлению строительным комплексом, Дворкович сказал, что "все, что касается процесса строительства и работы с подрядчиками, ложится на него. Вопросы же финансирования и реструктуризации кредитных обязательств остаются за председателем совета директоров корпорации Сергеем Полонским. Кроме того, Николай Павлович привел с собой команду из пяти человек. Это суперпрофессионалы в строительной отрасли, некоторые из которых занимались еще строительством БАМа и восстановлением железной дороги в Чеченской республике, и с некоторыми из которых он работал в Госстрое".

При этом, по словам представителя компании, оставаясь на должности главы Ассоциации Строителей России, Кошман будет посвящать определенное количество времени работе в ней. "В результате ему будет еще удобнее работать с подрядными организациями, так они все в основном состоят в АСР", - сказал он.

Что касается сроков наших проектов, которые теперь будет вести Николай Кошман, то, Таким образом, мы надеемся, что сроки сдачи наших проектов сдвинутся не сильно.

Источник http://www.realestate.ru/new.aspx?id=16510
__________________

Highcliff liked this post
KaZantiP no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old December 8th, 2009, 11:39 AM   #1506
coth
pride leader
 
coth's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Moscow
Posts: 21,633
Likes (Received): 6828

какое отношение миракс имеет к данному проекту?
__________________

Highcliff liked this post
coth no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old December 8th, 2009, 07:02 PM   #1507
ZZ-II
I love Skyscrapers
 
ZZ-II's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Near Ingolstadt in Bavaria
Posts: 33,512
Likes (Received): 6535

and in english?
__________________
Click here to get the Worlds Supertall Lists

Highcliff liked this post
ZZ-II no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old December 9th, 2009, 11:55 AM   #1508
korea2002
Registered User
 
korea2002's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Jeonju,서울,한국
Posts: 6,105
Likes (Received): 1270

Quote:
Originally Posted by ZZ-II View Post
and in english?
take using google translator
uhm.. I guess this news tell us Moscow IBC's Financial Distribution(Project Financing Development)
__________________

Highcliff liked this post
korea2002 no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old December 9th, 2009, 12:08 PM   #1509
coth
pride leader
 
coth's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Moscow
Posts: 21,633
Likes (Received): 6828

no this news has nothing to do with this project. it's about mirax projects.
__________________

Highcliff liked this post
coth no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old December 15th, 2009, 02:22 PM   #1510
Jex7844
La Défenseholic
 
Jex7844's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Paris 14e
Posts: 6,945
Likes (Received): 2916

Cancelled...? Not cancelled...?

I don't understand nothing!

A few days ago the "Russia Tower" project was clearly cancelled, and now it would still be topical?

It's so confusing,I dunno what to beleive anymore...
__________________
PARIS2024

Highcliff liked this post
Jex7844 no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old December 15th, 2009, 05:21 PM   #1511
Victor18
For Malaysia!!
 
Victor18's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Kuala Lumpur, London, Gothenburg, Casablanca, Tunis, Algiers, Tokyo, Singapore, Bangkok
Posts: 953
Likes (Received): 31

Its not cancelled,just stalled,just waiting for any new developers to take over this project and see the thread title,its still not cancelled...
__________________
KUALA LUMPUR -கோலாலம்பூர் - 吉隆坡 -كوالا لومڤور

Vision 2020: The Malaysian Skyscraper Forum

Highcliff liked this post
Victor18 no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old December 16th, 2009, 02:56 AM   #1512
WiGgLz01
BANNED
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Puyallup
Posts: 2,740
Likes (Received): 64

Cancelled at current design and height.

On hold for the actual project
__________________

Highcliff liked this post
WiGgLz01 no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old December 19th, 2009, 09:06 PM   #1513
mr impossible
Registered User
 
mr impossible's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 109
Likes (Received): 9

Yay on hold better than canceled!
__________________
Sad, this was going to be my favorite building ever, if constructed. But sadly canceled. :(
It would of been 655m tall or 2184 ft tall. Location would of been of course Dubai.
http://media.photobucket.com/image/a...e/DSC08480.jpg

ANARA WHAT COULD OF BEEN THE MOST AWESOME BUILDING EVER.

Highcliff liked this post
mr impossible no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old December 19th, 2009, 09:51 PM   #1514
Onn
BANNED
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: The United States
Posts: 1,544
Likes (Received): 173

Quote:
Originally Posted by WiGgLz01 View Post
Cancelled at current design and height.

On hold for the actual project
Then it's not the same project anymore, Waterview in Chicago was cancelled, so this one should be too.
Onn no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old December 19th, 2009, 10:03 PM   #1515
coth
pride leader
 
coth's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Moscow
Posts: 21,633
Likes (Received): 6828

Quote:
Originally Posted by Onn View Post
Then it's not the same project anymore, Waterview in Chicago was cancelled, so this one should be too.
Quote:
Originally Posted by coth View Post
All depend on will future investor buy only a land plot, whole project or entire business.
---
__________________

Highcliff liked this post
coth no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old December 20th, 2009, 12:15 AM   #1516
poltak
BANNED
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 129
Likes (Received): 11

no need to buld, nothing special
__________________

Highcliff liked this post
poltak no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old December 20th, 2009, 08:36 AM   #1517
WiGgLz01
BANNED
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Puyallup
Posts: 2,740
Likes (Received): 64

Quote:
Originally Posted by Onn View Post
Then it's not the same project anymore, Waterview in Chicago was cancelled, so this one should be too.
well the design as it is is cancelled, but the project "russia tower" is on hold. it will be redesigned and downsized and such when it starts again.
WiGgLz01 no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old December 20th, 2009, 01:41 PM   #1518
coth
pride leader
 
coth's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Moscow
Posts: 21,633
Likes (Received): 6828

@WiGgLz01

Quote:
Originally Posted by coth View Post
All depend on will future investor buy only a land plot, whole project or entire business.
__________________

Highcliff liked this post
coth no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old December 20th, 2009, 03:52 PM   #1519
bigshow
bine_mai :))
 
bigshow's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Satu Mare & Montpellier
Posts: 1,527
Likes (Received): 631

So how is it finally: cancelled or on hold?
__________________
BigShow is from Satu Mare home of the tallest administrative building in Romania!



Highcliff liked this post
bigshow no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old December 20th, 2009, 05:16 PM   #1520
coth
pride leader
 
coth's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Moscow
Posts: 21,633
Likes (Received): 6828

Quote:
Originally Posted by bigshow View Post
So how is it finally: cancelled or on hold?
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...postcount=1470
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...postcount=1490

1. If someone will buy the plot land only then it will be all new design.
2. If someone will buy the project then will legally take over design and will able to build it.
3. Same if someone will buy Russian Land entire company. They will legally take over the project.


In next few years the plot will be leased to CITY company and will be occupied by parking.
__________________

Highcliff liked this post

Last edited by coth; December 20th, 2009 at 05:22 PM.
coth no está en línea   Reply With Quote


Reply

Tags
ibc, mibc plot 17-18, moscow-city, moskau

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Related topics on SkyscraperCity


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 01:14 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Feedback Buttons provided by Advanced Post Thanks / Like (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2017 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

vBulletin Optimisation provided by vB Optimise (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2017 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

SkyscraperCity ☆ In Urbanity We trust ☆ about us | privacy policy | DMCA policy

Hosted by Blacksun, dedicated to this site too!
Forum server management by DaiTengu