Canopus l Greengate l 165m & 111m l 46 and 31 floors l Cancelled

[Manchester Planner]

Heavy rain forecasted for later this week...

[MVITA]

Originally Posted by Local Lad

Haha. Those diggers have not moved since i took a picture from the same place, on the 7th of October, gotta love BSC.

The site has been locked up for the past week

[Manchester Planner]

Maybe enforcement have told them to stop building as planning permission hasn't actually been granted yet?!

[andysimo123]

Originally Posted by Manchester Planner

Maybe enforcement have told them to stop building as planning permission hasn't actually been granted yet?!

Technically they arnt building they are just clearing the site. Now they are at the stage where they need planning permission to do anything else.

[Manchester Planner]

Would you not need planning permission for such large scale engineering works though?

[andysimo123]

Originally Posted by Manchester Planner

Would you not need planning permission for such large scale engineering works though?

As far as I know you don't need planning permisson to clear and dig a hole.

[Manchester Planner]

Where's Longford when you need him?

I thought you needed planning permission for something along those lines - it could even be seen as quarrying!!

[macc]

I was under the impression that they do need planning permission for it (the hole), but they are so confident that with the right design they can get persmission for a building large enough to fill the hole, that they are starting anyway.

I wouldn't have though the council are going to sneak in overnight and fill it up again on the sly. If someone builds a house or a Tesco, without proper planning permission it seems to take a while to suss out what they are up to; or at least do something about it.

I don't think digging holes is much of a risk. Even if they had to, surley filling them in is virtually free compared to the cost of digging them.

[caw123]

Originally Posted by andysimo123

As far as I know you don't need planning permisson to clear and dig a hole.

Mate you need a planning app to extend the height of your garden wall never mind dig a big fucking mud pit.

[andysimo123]

I've looked about and could find anything on them applying for a planning ap on this big hole. You don't need a planning ap to dig a pond, you need one for mining or quarying but this isnt mining is it. Its a bit mud and also where that wall is it just looks like have dug down to its lowest ground level.

[majormystery]

Didnt they get planning permission for one of the previous applications?
If so they could be using this to dig the hole until the latest application is approved.

[Accura4Matalan]

I think they got outline planning permission for the origional twin scheme. But that was ages ago, and the PP has probably expired by now.

[Architecty]

Originally Posted by macc

Even if they had to, surley filling them in is virtually free compared to the cost of digging them.

Moving soil in any direction is one of the most prohibitively expensive things you can do in construction, major excavation or fill is enough to kill many a project (including alot of civil engineering and landscape). If anything the fact that they can afford these endless groundworks on multiple sites shows the amount of cash they have behind them, god knows why they done use it more (ahmm) constructively.

Wasnt the scheme for a underground car park a separate planning proposal well before any serious tower scheme? Even if the car park was in and done, I dont think it would have much bearing on the tower, other than being its basement.

[jrb]

Rang Tim Hartley(planning officer) last week. Plans still haven't been submitted by BSC, but they should be soon.(hopefully) Plans will be available online one week after submission.

[Farsight]

Thanks jrb. You're a star.

[kids]

Ey up:

Applicant name: Central Salford URC
Ward: Ordsall
Location: Land Bounded By The River Irwell, Cathedral Approach, Victoria Bridge Street, Chapel Street, Greengate And Gravel Lane, Salford
Proposal:

Provision of new Public Realm in the form of three new urban spaces - a water based square fronting the River Irwell, an enlarged pedestrian route along Greengate and a new city square to the north of the railway viaduct including a new pedestrian bridge across the Irwell to Victoria Street, water sculptures, new market cross, exchange monument and single storey pavilion building, tree planting and hard and soft landscaping

http://www.salford.gov.uk/living/pla...anninglist.htm

[jrb]

Originally Posted by Kids in the riot

Ey up:

Applicant name: Central Salford URC
Ward: Ordsall
Location: Land Bounded By The River Irwell, Cathedral Approach, Victoria Bridge Street, Chapel Street, Greengate And Gravel Lane, Salford
Proposal:

Provision of new Public Realm in the form of three new urban spaces - a water based square fronting the River Irwell, an enlarged pedestrian route along Greengate and a new city square to the north of the railway viaduct including a new pedestrian bridge across the Irwell to Victoria Street, water sculptures, new market cross, exchange monument and single storey pavilion building, tree planting and hard and soft landscaping

http://www.salford.gov.uk/living/pla...anninglist.htm

Nice one kids. Just downloading the PDF now. Nothing from BSC. Damn them hippos.

[kids]

It's good stuff is this jerb. The three main features of the public realm:

[jrb]

The juices are flowing. Couple of screen grabs for you. The more I see of Greengate/Exchange Greengate the more excited I get. Lots of new stuff. Fantastic!

[kids]