Canopus l Greengate l 165m & 111m l 46 and 31 floors l Cancelled

[jrb]

Another two.



Beautiful!

[kids]

Right, so this is the design overview for this proposal (the public realm)

[IMG]http://i11.************/4d7c0nm.jpg[/IMG]

[jrb]

Don't forget Chapel Wharf going in between the Edge and the Lowry.

[chompo44]

i do hope it all happens sooner rather than later. it is a tricky area linking all the land between so many railway lines, The amount of public space is great though. Is it all residential? i hope there are some varied uses for the proposed buildings with the residential market slowing down

[The Longford]

Salford can create a new park (nice one Joe Martin - major props!) so why cant Manchester. Salford leads the way once again! (its at time like this i wish there was a 'ironic' smilie )

I cried twice btw jourdan

[The Longford]

Originally Posted by jourdan

I hope to god (and I'm an agnostic, so that's pretty non-commital), that they ship the council into Greengate and give Swinton back to the Swintonese.

But that would mean i would have to start a 'Save Salford Town Hall' campaign!

[SleepyOne]

From the Martin Stockley website

Canopus Greengate



We are Structural Engineers for this £50m mixed use development in Salford on the edge of Manchester city centre for the BSC Group, designed with Arca Architects. The scheme includes two towers (46 storeys and 30 storeys high) together with an eight storey 5* hotel and Apart-hotel block, totalling 430,000 sq ft gross development area.

All structures are designed as steel framed, and there will be a public viewing area at the top of the taller tower. There is a three storey basement car park under the site, constructed up to the edge of the River Irwell.

Indicating perhaps a slightly modified form from the previous set of renders. I hope it is not too different. I loved that incarnation.

All this is probably all academic anyway what with BSC Group's unprofessional approach and utterly dismal track record in delivery but interesting none the less.

[jrb]

Good find Sleeps. I'm on an oxygen Machine now. I gave up holding my breath.

Looks about right. Arca still haven't updated their Greengate PDF yet.

[Liam-Manchester]

Refreshing to see some high quality public spaces being incorporated into the area.

[jrb]

and there will be a public viewing area at the top of the taller tower.

Hopefully the viewing platform is still incorporated in the overall design.

[rolybling]

This Greengate plan looks the business now with the public space, I think it works really well and should successfully connect the two parts of the city, thanks for all the info guys.

[dirtyred619]

Originally Posted by jourdan

7 part Salford heart transplant plan (what a tongue-twister that was!?):

1) Get the council out of Swinton and into Greengate/Chapel St/Quays
2) Knock down phases two and three (the ugly 1970's monstrosity and the pizza hut/local authority swimming pool public area buildings respectively)
3) Build a new plaza of shops and residences, retain original town hall ("Phase 1") building as community facilities/LIFT centre or alternatively devleop them as apartments.


4) Move all the shopkeepers from Swinton Shopping Centre into these new shops
5) Dynamite blast down the f*ckin eyesore that is the current Swinton Shopping Centre
6) Build trendy (in-line-with-Salford-planning) Broughton Green style family housing development on site of old shopping centre.
7) EVERYONE IS HAPPY (except the Worsley councillors who have to travel a god awful 15 mins more and park every morning to get to work (win win!)

Sounds good to me! You forget to say knock down the awful Lancastrian Hall. Oh they are already doing that!

Liking the plans for the overall Greengate area more and more, the open space is very welcome and a public viewing gallery on the 46th floor Just hope Mr Issa pulls his finger out with this (and his other projects) once its approved and actually builds it!

[Farsight]

Thanks SleepyOne.

I like the looks of this.

[Architecty]

Well currently says "Greengate Development pdf under revision" on Arca's site, so we should see more soon.

I personally dont think the new render shows any major differences, although from this angle at least the corners dont seem as strongly indented, clad certainly looks identical; just a progression in the render quality methinks.

[SleepyOne]

Another image from the Arca site showing ground level and cladding detail.

[img]http://i11.************/47b14ps.jpg[/img]

The new Greengate Development will be one of the first projects in the Salford Exchange Masterplan. As with other projects in the urban design plan, it will combine the tower form with a lower rise perimeter blocks.

At the front of the site facing the new urban space in the heart of the masterplan will be the hotel building. The 'woven' facade elements of the rooms are held in a solid frame an element which operates at the grand scale of the square. The sloping site is carried into the double-height lobby areas, creating overlapping floor levels with dynamic visual links across the spaces. Ancillary hotel accommodation extends under the raised courtyard, with light scoops bringing daylight to these secondary spaces.

The western corner of the site has been preserved unbuilt, reinstating the footprint of the old Market Square of Salford lost during successive redevelopment. One of the hotel lobby entrances, and the way in to the residential apartments is from here, and cafe tables can open onto the apron.

Forming a composition with the horizontal form of the hotel will be the strongly vertical 46- and 31-storey apartment towers.

Title : Greengate Development
Location : Salford
Programme : 2004 - 2010
Type : Mixed use
Client : BSC Group
Contract Value : £75m

[Manc Guy]

Its not about that concrete panelling all the way up...

[cottonopolis]

My first impression of these towers wasn´t good- This picture showing the base and the overall design up close reinforce my initial feeling that these towers are awful. They have got to be the worst design of any of the potential new builds. They far surpass anything else in horridness. YUCK

[SleepyOne]

I think this has the potential to be one of the very best.

[Karl Duvall]

Hello People our company www.shove-media.com produced the two images that have been posted on here. (latest two showing twin towers and the podium plaza area)

The towers look awesome, its a nice to see that Arca have designed towers that are not typical run of the mill glass boxes. the screen on the tower looks very interesting, Very individual.

The public spaces work really well linking the whole area to Manchester.

An application to Salford City Council will be made in Late November early December for the twin tower scheme.

Ill keep you all updated as and when possible.

[Sir Miles Platting]

Cheers Monsieur Duvall....