Canopus l Greengate l 165m & 111m l 46 and 31 floors l Cancelled

[Accura4Matalan]

Thanks, much appreciated

[SleepyOne]

Thanks Karl. Great images. Any chance you could provide some higher res or larger versions?

I really think this has got the makings of a great scheme. Arca look like they've done a really good job this time around. Can't wait for the application to be submitted although this feeling is tempered by the knowledge that this development seems to have one of the world's most incompetent developers at the helm.

[Karl Duvall]

I will post High res images once we have clearance from Arca and BSC Group.

I was suprised to see our images on here to be honest..

People need to realise that designs change so often and "leeked" images and public reaction can be a key factor in this. whos going to build a scheme that the public hates??

one thing that really suprised me on the project was how great SALFORD Planning office were in handling the initial enquiry from our behalf.

I also worked on the Beetham Tower and Manchester planning office were very demanding the number of images illustrating the impact the Tower would have on the city skyline..

Salford where much more to the point. "simply make it look the best you can"

People of Salford should be proud of the Green gate towers that Arca are proposing to the planning office they are much more UNIQUE and Individual than the glass box down the road.

[Caiman]

eh eh, we'll have no harsh words against our glass box

[SleepyOne]

Well there are glass boxes and glass boxes (I don't necessarily consider it to be a pejorative term). You have the prince of all glass boxes in Beetham and the pauper in Dandara's hideous Chapel Wharf proposal.

From the glimpses we have seen, Greengate / Canopus promises something very different but just as magestic and soaring as Beetham I think. Hope those sharp corners havn't been softened too much and the proposal retains its integrity.

I look forward to more renders being released.

[Karl Duvall]

I actually think Chapel Wharf is a more impressive development than ISA Betham tower.

The residential areas to Chapel Wharf are something quite stunning and excellent use of screens to add depth to the flat fronted facades..

also the fact that they managed to fit a huge 40+storey tower and a 25 + an 18 + a 16 storey block within the carpark of the Lowry is quite impressive.

Manchester is an awesome example to city redevelopment..

[SleepyOne]

The residential areas to Chapel Wharf are something quite stunning and excellent use of screens to add depth to the flat fronted facades..

also the fact that they managed to fit a huge 40+storey tower and a 25 + an 18 + a 16 storey block within the carpark of the Lowry is quite impressive.

Manchester is an awesome example to city redevelopment..

Its not that impressive when you consider the paucity of the resulting public realm and the lack of sophistication with which they have dealt with the car parking issue that a scheme of that size demands. Added to that, the inelegant forms and proportions of each slab and the awkward relationship of each slab / podium arrangement - the whole scheme smacks of a classic case of developer greed resulting in a compromised and overdeveloped mess. A dormitory for transient residents and not a nice place to live for any length of time.

Give me BSC Group's collection of half finished but nevertheless classy and impressive developments over Dandara's greed and potential blight at Chapel Wharf.

But lets leave the slagging of Chapel Wharf to the appropriate thread shall we?

[highriser]

big article in the MEN ,,, Canapus , is going in for planning this week ,, 62 storey's yeah you read it right 62 STOREYS

GOTTA GO BACK TO WORK SEE YA LATER

[Farsight]

Wow!

[BeardedGenius]

Originally Posted by highriser

big article in the MEN ,,, Canapus , is going in for planning this week ,, 62 storey's yeah you read it right 62 STOREYS

GOTTA GO BACK TO WORK SEE YA LATER

Yikes! Although knowing the quality of MEN's reporting lately, they probably got confused and mean both towers total 62 storeys...

[Accura4Matalan]

Oh no! Here we go again!

[cottonopolis]

If this is true. Then there is a God - and she has extremely good taste in tall buildings.

[Ephemera]

Originally Posted by cottonopolis

If this is true. Then there is a God - and she has extremely good taste in tall buildings.

You called?



How long will the whole process take, months? Is it likely that somebody will 'signal' pretty early on if it is likely to pass or fail. Either way, 62 storeys is another line crossed.

[Metrolink]

What are the chances of this going ahead be it at 40 or 62 storyes?

[BeardedGenius]

I seriously wouldn't be surprised if the Evnin Nooz have got it wrong or are mistakenly referring to a previous incarnation. Wasn't this 62 floors?

[Manc Guy]

What are the chances of this going ahead be it at 40 or 62 storyes?

Surely the only person that would know? Karl Duvall?

I wouldnt put it past the MEN to fuck up...

[Manc Guy]

Anyone got a scan?

Ooo i miss Jerb!

[cottonopolis]

Me too... is he on holiday??

[Manc Guy]

His net's down or somehting along those lines...

[SleepyOne]

All the recent indications are that it will be a 40 storey scheme. This will be consistent with the Greengate masterplan too. Either the MEN have got it wrong or they have been spun a line.... or possibly not. Guess we'll have to wait and see.

There are no details in the article as its about city centre living generally and that with approximately 1/3rd of all apartments in the hands of owner occupiers and 2/3 being bought up by investors, developers need to tailor their schemes more to families with a greater number of larger apartments, more quality amenety space and more ground floor retail and mixed uses if such large schemes are to be sustained.

For information, the reference to Canopus is as follows.

Plans for a 62-storey skyscraper will land on the desks of city planning chiefs this week.

The Canopus tower, to be built on a site opposite Victoria station by incompetent Manchester-based charlatan developers, BSC Group, will be one of the largest apartment schemes the city has yet seen.