Canopus l Greengate l 165m & 111m l 46 and 31 floors l Cancelled - Page 6

Karl Duvall · December 7th, 2006, 10:08 PM

http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o...za_01_03-1.jpg

http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o...lRes_02_03.jpg

http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o..._TowerView.jpg

Thats the full set.

The Concrete is actually a natural stone cladding. you cant see it at this res.
The Screens st off the scheme in my opinion, the way they wrap around teh podium looks cool...

SleepyOne · December 7th, 2006, 10:13 PM

THANKS!

That's the one. Stunning.

SleepyOne · December 7th, 2006, 10:14 PM

Podium

SleepyOne · December 7th, 2006, 10:15 PM

Cladding detail (natural stone, glass + overcladding)

cottonopolis · December 7th, 2006, 10:18 PM

It definately looks better from some angles but the mixture of cladding looks terrible. Wooden curtains?! and full stone sides.. This is just wrong in my book...

Karl Duvall · December 7th, 2006, 10:26 PM

cottonopolis sorry, but the screens are metal. copper and bronze in colour.

Its a mix of all materials the curtain wall glazing is standard on nearly all skyscrapers, the sun shade screens are interesting to me as I have not seen them done in this way before.

I dont think the stone cladding looks that bad, its certainly different to the Tetris Glass blocks that are popping up

SleepyOne · December 7th, 2006, 10:27 PM

Just to remind forumers of the masterplan within which this tower will sit and which has determined its basic form.

Ariel view of Greengate masterplan

3d view of Greengate masterplan (looking towards the city centre)

New public realm within Greengate (this tower fronts onto the largest space)

cottonopolis · December 7th, 2006, 10:28 PM

I didnt mean wood in a literal sense - they jut look like wooden storm windows - not something I think looks well on a tower.

I´ve been mistaken before about developments going by the renders but this one reallly makes me nervous..

Skid-Mark · December 7th, 2006, 10:30 PM

As long as it actually looks like stone then this might be very impressive, this is near skyline central judging by that render, no???

SleepyOne · December 7th, 2006, 10:34 PM

This one sits opposite Tempus tower. Both materials and design of this one look top class to me. Not many modern buildings, let alone skyscrapers feature natural stone cladding. Notice the reinstated, original Market Square at the base of the towers, effectively forming the epicentre of the entire district.

Norb · December 7th, 2006, 10:44 PM

how does the railway/former exchange station fit into all this?

Manchester Planner · December 7th, 2006, 10:46 PM

I just hope BSC do this one properly... we don't want another WW1 re-enactment like at the Sarah Tower site!!

Manchester Planner · December 7th, 2006, 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Norb

how does the railway/former exchange station fit into all this?

That's a seperate site with its own tower proposals. Currently there is an outline planning permission with Salford City Council.

SleepyOne · December 7th, 2006, 10:56 PM

You can see the (outline) Exchange Station proposals and public realm on the masterplan images I posted above.

The Longford · December 8th, 2006, 12:01 AM

I really really really really like this.
Its got a 60s feel to it and those of you familiar with Brasilia/ Oscar Neimeyer will know what i mean.
For gods sake even the public realm and ground floor/ entrance area looks good - liking the Moore-esque sculpture.
Please God - let this be built in my lifetime.

BeardedGenius · December 8th, 2006, 12:12 AM

I really really really really really like this. It looks so cool in a man from Del Monte kind of way. If this were a garment, it would be Roger Moore's slacks! How can you not love something so stylishly going against the grain of the current zeitgeist? Who wants everything to be stripey glass, assymetric windows and blocky bits? This is fab.

Norb · December 8th, 2006, 12:51 AM

Sorry, I probably wasn't overly clear, I meant about the fact that there's a victorian? viaduct going slap bang through the developments, is it going to get tarted up nicely or some underpinning arrangement to replace it?

kids · December 8th, 2006, 01:04 AM

Wow, yes, that's the spot. Love the detail. Thanks Karl.

Karl Duvall · December 8th, 2006, 01:09 AM

Riot, how can i get a link on your site???

www.shove-media.com.

would be great if we could. cool site by the way

Farsight · December 8th, 2006, 01:13 AM

Oh yes. Wow. Love it.

Thanks Karl.

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December 7th, 2006, 10:08 PM	#101
Karl Duvall Director at Shove Media Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Liverpool Posts: 24 Likes (Received): 0	http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o...za_01_03-1.jpg http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o...lRes_02_03.jpg http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o..._TowerView.jpg Thats the full set. The Concrete is actually a natural stone cladding. you cant see it at this res. The Screens st off the scheme in my opinion, the way they wrap around teh podium looks cool...

December 7th, 2006, 10:13 PM	#102
SleepyOne Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,091 Likes (Received): 0	THANKS! That's the one. Stunning.

December 7th, 2006, 10:14 PM	#103
SleepyOne Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,091 Likes (Received): 0	Podium

December 7th, 2006, 10:15 PM	#104
SleepyOne Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,091 Likes (Received): 0	Cladding detail (natural stone, glass + overcladding)

December 7th, 2006, 10:18 PM	#105
cottonopolis Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Manchester/København Posts: 271 Likes (Received): 0	It definately looks better from some angles but the mixture of cladding looks terrible. Wooden curtains?! and full stone sides.. This is just wrong in my book...

December 7th, 2006, 10:26 PM	#106
Karl Duvall Director at Shove Media Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Liverpool Posts: 24 Likes (Received): 0	cottonopolis sorry, but the screens are metal. copper and bronze in colour. Its a mix of all materials the curtain wall glazing is standard on nearly all skyscrapers, the sun shade screens are interesting to me as I have not seen them done in this way before. I dont think the stone cladding looks that bad, its certainly different to the Tetris Glass blocks that are popping up

December 7th, 2006, 10:27 PM	#107
SleepyOne Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,091 Likes (Received): 0	Just to remind forumers of the masterplan within which this tower will sit and which has determined its basic form. Ariel view of Greengate masterplan 3d view of Greengate masterplan (looking towards the city centre) New public realm within Greengate (this tower fronts onto the largest space)

December 7th, 2006, 10:28 PM	#108
cottonopolis Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Manchester/København Posts: 271 Likes (Received): 0	I didnt mean wood in a literal sense - they jut look like wooden storm windows - not something I think looks well on a tower. I´ve been mistaken before about developments going by the renders but this one reallly makes me nervous..

December 7th, 2006, 10:34 PM	#110
SleepyOne Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,091 Likes (Received): 0	This one sits opposite Tempus tower. Both materials and design of this one look top class to me. Not many modern buildings, let alone skyscrapers feature natural stone cladding. Notice the reinstated, original Market Square at the base of the towers, effectively forming the epicentre of the entire district.

December 7th, 2006, 10:44 PM	#111
Norb Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 272 Likes (Received): 3	how does the railway/former exchange station fit into all this?

December 7th, 2006, 10:46 PM	#112
Manchester Planner Chief Bureaucrat Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 6,848 Likes (Received): 1	I just hope BSC do this one properly... we don't want another WW1 re-enactment like at the Sarah Tower site!!

December 7th, 2006, 10:56 PM	#114
SleepyOne Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,091 Likes (Received): 0	You can see the (outline) Exchange Station proposals and public realm on the masterplan images I posted above.

December 8th, 2006, 12:51 AM	#117
Norb Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 272 Likes (Received): 3	Sorry, I probably wasn't overly clear, I meant about the fact that there's a victorian? viaduct going slap bang through the developments, is it going to get tarted up nicely or some underpinning arrangement to replace it?

December 8th, 2006, 01:09 AM	#119
Karl Duvall Director at Shove Media Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Liverpool Posts: 24 Likes (Received): 0	Riot, how can i get a link on your site??? www.shove-media.com. would be great if we could. cool site by the way

December 8th, 2006, 01:13 AM	#120
Farsight Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 2,997 Likes (Received): 24	Oh yes. Wow. Love it. Thanks Karl.