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Old August 16th, 2007, 03:07 AM   #41
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nice thread @kiretoce
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Old August 16th, 2007, 04:32 AM   #42
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Thanks @dinabaw, it'd be nice if we can have a healthy discussion about our fellow Muslim brothers and sisters, and their plight for the rights and equality that they are also deserving of without it turning into an "us against them" situation.

Oh yeah, is there a difference between a "Moslem" and a "Muslim?"
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Old August 16th, 2007, 07:45 AM   #43
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Thanks @dinabaw, it'd be nice if we can have a healthy discussion about our fellow Muslim brothers and sisters, and their plight for the rights and equality that they are also deserving of without it turning into an "us against them" situation.

Oh yeah, is there a difference between a "Moslem" and a "Muslim?"
well we've been discussing this topic in other threads ,yes this is the right venue i might say for understanding our Filipino Muslim brothers

I think the difference between Moslem & Muslim is orientation , Moslem are frequently used in Middle East and other asian country but here and in Southeast Asia it's more on Muslim .




here's a little understanding of "Assalamu Alaikum" , i like this wiriter Moslemen Macarambon Jr. he speaks well of his roots and his friendship to his non -muslim borthers


Assalamu Alaikum
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This is the common greetings of Muslim around the globe. Here in the Philippines, non-muslim thought its just a local language but its not. This greeting is an Arabic language.

As-Salāmu `Alaykum (السلام عليكم) is an Arabic language greeting used in both Muslim and Christian cultures. It means “Peace be upon you.” It is also transliterated as Assalamu ‘Alaikum or As-salaamu Alaikum. The traditional response is “wa `Alaykum As-Salām“, meaning “and on you be peace.”

This type of greeting is common in the Middle East; it is similar to the Hebrew greeting of shalom aleichem. (Wikipedia)

Did you know that Assalamu Alaikum is a simple prayer?

Everytime you greet somebody, you are wishing that his day will turn out the best in every way.

To all my blog readers - Assalamu Alaikum!


http://moslemenjr.macarambon.com/assalamu-alaikum/
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Old August 16th, 2007, 08:37 AM   #44
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I was even shocked to see a mosque amidst the small houses in Basak Lapu-Lapu City. I thought there were no Muslim communities in Lapu-Lapu
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Old August 16th, 2007, 08:48 AM   #45
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Ignorant Filipinos especially fom the North has always associated that every people in Mindanao is a Muslim, and Muslim is savage.

Anyway, this thread will surely educate the Filipinos of the North to think that they are even more savage than Muslims.

Thanks a lot to the person who made this thread. I really love to post here anytime.
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Old August 16th, 2007, 10:19 AM   #46
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The Bates Treaty

The Bates Treaty had promised to uphold mutual respect between the U.S. and the Sultanate of Sulu, to respect Moro autonomy, and to not give or sell Sulu or any part of it to any other nation.


The Bates Treaty
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A relatively unknown but significant detail in Philippine history is the Bates Treaty, signed between the U.S. and the Sultanate of Sulu on August 20, 1899. This article looks into the background of that treaty and its consequences.

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Treaty of Peace Between the United States and Spain;

Source : The Avalon Project at the Yale Law School

The United States of America and Her Majesty the Queen Regent of Spain, in the name of her august son Don Alfonso XIII, desiring to end the state of war now existing between the two countries, have for that purpose appointed as plenipotentiaries:

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Old August 16th, 2007, 10:34 AM   #48
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The Subjugation of the Elephant:...

. History books in the Philippines tend to lay emphasis on events in other islands and glorify national heroes from such areas, as if the history of the Philippines is only that of people who had been conquered while the history of the unconquered ones do not merit a share in the history of the Philippines. Possibly, with greater tolerance, intensive scholarship on all levels, deeper and wider moral perspectives, and a greater appreciation of the concept and implications of a pluralistic society, a future generation of Filipinos would consider the struggle of the Muslim South as part of the struggle of the entire nation-and the epic exploits of its heroes may well be the nation's heritage.2

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Old August 16th, 2007, 10:50 AM   #49
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The Tripoli Agreement Text

The Tripoli Agreement

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I was even shocked to see a mosque amidst the small houses in Basak Lapu-Lapu City. I thought there were no Muslim communities in Lapu-Lapu
Rajah Soliman is a muslim ruled Manlia and maybe Lapu-Lapu too
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@avenger pls. don't kill this thread LOL i mean from being bland let's discuss it w/ our personal view
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I agree, instead of flooding it with lengthy posts (that the majority of readers will just skip over anyway), just give us your opinions on the matter, or if you need some references to back up your position, provide us with the links. Thank you very much!
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re Moslem or Muslim:

In the Arabic language where the word "Muslim" originally came from has no equivalent for "O" and "E" so "Muslim" has always been the correct word which means the one who practices Islam. The words ISLAM - the religion, MUSLIM, and SALAM - peace, have the same root word which is from the Arabic word SILM.
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Thanks for the clarification!
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@avenger pls. don't kill this thread LOL i mean from being bland let's discuss it w/ our personal view
Ok I alread edited and just put the web link.

Btw Lapu Lapu is a Muslim, a Tausug.

The battle of Mactan should be commemorated every year and our Muslim brothers should be proud that the first hero of the Filipino people is a Muslim – a Tausug – the famous fierce defender of freedom and sovereignty



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Old August 16th, 2007, 05:36 PM   #56
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re Moslem or Muslim:

In the Arabic language where the word "Muslim" originally came from has no equivalent for "O" and "E" so "Muslim" has always been the correct word which means the one who practices Islam. The words ISLAM - the religion, MUSLIM, and SALAM - peace, have the same root word which is from the Arabic word SILM.
thanks sir abs so why the word Moslem is used in other region?

ok maybe thta's why the Moslem is being use moslty by western people ?
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a net-find... an 18th century picture of tribes living in the northern part of mindanao, i suppose they weren't moslems but rather domesticated savages ...


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Rajah Soliman is a muslim ruled Manlia and maybe Lapu-Lapu too
i'm planning to become datu bago in the near future ....
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what's the pic about thats' porn yan noong alaw
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i don't understand what you mean
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