Indigenous Tribes of the Philippines

[bukid]

So should we handover Iraq to the jews?

Even presuming they were philistines, the philistines were invaders from crete and the greek islands. while the canaanites were the original settlers intermarrying with the jews. but we all know that those people who now call themselves palestinians are really arabs.

the region was in the hands of the europeans and not the americans. and they have the historical documents in their archives. the history of the land is connected to their european history from the phoenicians to the greeks to the romans to the turks and then the british. of course somewhere along the line there were the persians, assyrians and babylonians...

[TheAvenger]

Originally Posted by bukid

So should we handover Iraq to the jews?

Even presuming they were philistines, the philistines were invaders from crete and the greek islands. while the canaanites were the original settlers intermarrying with the jews. but we all know that those people who now call themselves palestinians are really arabs.

the region was in the hands of the europeans and not the americans. and they have the historical documents in their archives. the history of the land is connected to their european history from the phoenicians to the greeks to the romans to the turks and then the british. of course somewhere along the line there were the persians, assyrians and babylonians...

Or perhaps the UN should turn-over Israel/Palestine to Iraq since the original Jew came from Irag. That is a Solomonic principle which you neither give in or support any party, and a wise decision on this case of the Palestinian and the Jews who said Palestine belong to "him" only and not the other one.

The Jew /Israeli (the Squatter in Palestine which is now called Israel) versus the Palestinian who never left the land Palestine till 1945 when they were tortured, beaten, chased-out, abused, humiliated, fired, etc

Verdict : Israel to be turn-over to Iraq.

[bukid]

that won't be a problem since you said it is their land. so handover iraq to the jews and let them set up a jewish government there.

or we maybe we should also return the arabs in egypt back to arabia. and give the country back to the copts of which majority are christians who preserved the coptic language of their ancestors through their coptic liturgy.

The "palestinians" were not tortured, beaten, chased-out, abused, humiliated, fired, etc because they were arabs and the arabs are muslims and the rulers who were turks were also muslims. and muslims hate jews. the koran even call jews apes and pigs. and told muslims not to be friends with the jews and if i am right it even includes the christians unless they allow themselves to be subdued and pay the jizya tax.

[Rajah_Soliman]

bump.... bakit jews and palestine ang topic dito

[TheAvenger]

Originally Posted by bukid

that won't be a problem since you said it is their land. so handover iraq to the jews and let them set up a jewish government there.

or we maybe we should also return the arabs in egypt back to arabia. and give the country back to the copts of which majority are christians who preserved the coptic language of their ancestors through their coptic liturgy.

The "palestinians" were not tortured, beaten, chased-out, abused, humiliated, fired, etc because they were arabs and the arabs are muslims and the rulers who were turks were also muslims. and muslims hate jews. the koran even call jews apes and pigs. and told muslims not to be friends with the jews and if i am right it even includes the christians unless they allow themselves to be subdued and pay the jizya tax.

The "palestinians" were not tortured, beaten, chased-out, abused, humiliated, fired, etc because they were arabs
just because they were Arabs they were not tortured etc ? where it the logic there .suppose they were of british or spanish descent ?

btw palestinian were descendants of Canaanite who were miixed with the bloods of arabs, and European Christian Crusaders.

turks were also muslims - how can you be so sure that all Turks were all muslims. Istanbul located on the European side of the Strait of Bosporus was the former name of Constantinople which is the seat of the Catholic Orthodox Church.... unbelievable that no descendants of those
Christians in Constantinople were left in Turkey. It is like sayings Filipinos were Christian which is wrong since we have also Filipinos professing Islamic religions, and possibly Bhudist and Hindus also.

arabs are muslims - how can you say that? how about the Arab Christians in Lebanon who were almost half of the population of Lebanon? and how about the Arab Christians in Syria and Iraq ?
It is also like sayings that all Indonesians were all Muslims.

muslims hate jews the koran even call jews apes and pigs. and told muslims not to be friends with the jews

- this is entirely wrong ... and a propaganda. in the Koran it was written that Muslims should respect the "People of the Book" which is the Jew.
and to also respect the Christians since they were the people of the Prophet Jesus. Muslims during the time of Mohamed believe Jesus is a Prophet.

Please note that even before the Internet became common I always read books... any kind of books or magazines... I even received free subscription of Pravda magazine and I read it all.... when I was a kid I even read " ang diyaryo na pinagbalutan ng tinapa





Arab Christians of Lebanon



http://phoenicia.org/christiansmea.html





Arab Christian in Syria



http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/mid...st/1313724.stm





Christian Damascus

Syria to most foreigners appears to be a purely Muslim country. Few realised that this is a country with 1.2 million Christians, about 10% of the population. Christianity came early to Damascus. This was where according to the Bible Acts 9:1, Ananias, an early Christian disciple, was asked to “go to the street which is called Straight, and enquire in the house of Judas for one called Saul of Tarsus (St Paul) so that he might be able to touch him and restore Saul’s sight.” Thereupon, Saul, a persecutor of the Christian

http://weecheng.com/mideast/syria/dama2.htm





Turkish Christian














Photo of Esber Yagmurdereli.
The feature of my father and my great-grandfather was the same as Esber Yagmurdereli of Turkey.
perhaps we have Turkish blood. But my father said they were of German-Jew descent.




http://web.amnesty.org/library/Index...pen&of=ENG-316

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[bukid]

this is already OT.

but i'll be brief.

the turks are muslims, those who are christians in the byzantine period are greeks or romano-greco. the turks invaded constantinople (now renamed istanbul) subdued the greeks and there was even the extermination of the armenians. i also read history and i read them page by page. before i study a nation's language, i read its history first. that is why those who are real egyptians and descendants of the people of the pharaohs of egypt are really those who are called copts and belonging to the coptic christian churches. majority of those who are muslim are of arab stock while some may have a mixture of other blood including coptic.

you may have read books but i also have read books and there are many resources in the internet. all you can do is google it and check the facts. you can also google the koran. i saw one with both arabic and english translation. and i read it too.

so let's just google for it and let's go back to the topic.

by the way, the maronites and the lebanese are not arabs. that is why they didn't place the word "arab" in the official name of their country.

[TheAvenger]

Originally Posted by Rajah_Soliman

bump.... bakit jews and palestine ang topic dito

sa susunod magiging chinese ang topic...

[TheAvenger]

http://www.bangsamoro.info/modules/myalbum/











http://www.chinatoday.com.cn/English...200404/p56.htm







http://www.bangsamoro.info/modules/x....php?poll_id=1


still not completed .... will continue soon phtobucket problem is resolved

[TheAvenger]

http://www.univie.ac.at/voelkerkunde...akan/yakan.htm

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[TheAvenger]

Muslim Mindanao

Aside from the colorful contributions of its regional tribes, Mindanao is home to the largest cultural minority in the Philippines - the Muslims. Brought by Javanese and Middle Eastern traders, Islam is the religion of approximately 20 percent of the Philippine population.







They are known for their mysticism, royalty, and beauty which are evident in their music and dances. Accompanied by the agong and kulintang, Filipino Muslim dance is marked by intricate hand and arm movement along with shimmering costumes.




Pangalay








Pangalay
Tribe: Badjao
Origin: Zamboanga del Sur

A pangalay native to the Badjao, sometimes known as the "Sea Gypsies." Pangalay is a dance that emphasizes the agility of the upper body. The rhythmic bounce of the shoulder with simultaneous alternating waving of arms are the basic movement of this dance. The pangalay is commonly performed at weddings and other social gatherings.




Singkil
















(Singkil)
Tribe:Maranao
Origin: Lanao, Mindanao

Sinkil dance takes its name from the bells worn on the ankles of the Muslim princess. Perhaps one of the oldest of truly Filipino dances, the Singkil recounts the epic legend of the "Darangan" of the Maranao people of Mindanao. This epic, written sometime in the 14th century, tells the fateful story of Princess Gandingan, who was caught in the middle of a forest during an earthquake caused by the diwatas, or fairies or nymph of the forest.

The rhythmic clapping of criss-crossed bamboo poles represent the trees that were falling, which she gracefully avoids. Her slave loyally accompanies her throughout her ordeal. Finally, she is saved by the prince. Dancers wearing solemn faces and maintaining a dignified pose being dancing at a slow pace which soon progresses to a faster tempo skillfully manipulate apir, or fans which represent the winds that prove to be auspicious. The dancers weave expertly through criss-crossed bamboos.

When performed by ladies of the royalty of Lanao, the dancer is usually accompanied by a waiting lady, who holds a beautifully decorated umbrella over the Princess' head wherever she goes. Royal princesses to this day in the Sulu Archipelago are required to learn this most difficult and noble dance.




Pangsak












Pangsak
Tribe: Yakan
Origin: Basilan

The Yakan are a Muslim ethnic group in the highlands of Mindanao. They wear elaborately woven costumes tightly on their bodies. Their dances involve complicated hand and foot movements. In this dance, a man unties a wrap from his wife-to-be's waist to wrap around her body and dance with. Both of their faces are dotted with white paint, to hide their identity from evil spirits.




Pangalay ha Pattong












Pangalay ha Pattong
Tribe: Badjao

A royal couple balance perilously on top of bamboo poles imitating the movements of the picturesque southern boat (the vinta) with colorful sails gliding across the Sulu Sea.




Pagapir









Pagapir
Tribe: Maranao
Origin: Lanao del Sur

Pagaper depicts a royal manner of "walking" among the Maranao people who live mainly around Lake Lanao. Ladies of the royal court perform this stately dance in preparation for an important event. The ladies gracefully manipulate the Aper (apir) or fan, while emphasizing their small steps, or "kini-kini", which is a sign of good upbringing.




Sagayan
















Sagayan
Tribe: Maguindanao
Origin: Cotabato

Performed by very fierce warriors carrying a shield elaborately painted with curlicues, rounds, twirls and mirrors which are attached with shell noisemakers. In their other hand, they carry a double-bladed sword (kampilan) of metal or wood. Sagayan dancers are dressed in three tiered skirts, brightly colored topper and headgear embellished with all the imaginable colors of twine trimmings formed into flowers, balls, sunbursts etc. Long, yellow playful tassels almost hiding the face surround the headgear.

The dance involves leaping, turning, jumping, kicking and the rolling movements of a warrior ready to defend his master in battle. Kamanyang fumes inhaled by the sagayan moves him to perform in a magic-like trance. On most occasions, this dance is performed before any celebration or gathering to drive away evil spirits (tunong) and to welcome good fortunes or omen.




Kapa Malong Malong








Also called Sambi sa Malong, this Maranao dance shows the
many ways of wearing a malong, a simple tubular yet highly
functional piece of cloth. The traditional women’s version shows this cloth of countless colorful designs; used mostly as a skirt, woven in many different ways, depending on the purpose of the wearer. Other ways the women wear malong is as a shawl, a mantle, or a head-piece.

During more recent dance documentation, a men’s version was derived. This version shows in masculine rendition, how men don the malong—displaying its use as a sash or waist-band, shorts or bahag, and a head-gear that can be either functional while working in the fields, or decorative as a turban.


http://www.seasite.niu.edu/TAGALog/C...nao_dances.htm

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[midwestguy1]

Very nice report and pictures Avenger. I remember seing some of these while I was in the Philippines. Very spectacular I must say....

[TheAvenger]

Originally Posted by midwestguy1

Very nice report and pictures Avenger. I remember seing some of these while I was in the Philippines. Very spectacular I must say....

Thanks..........I planned to post here cultural matters about our Muslims kababayan and the war freak news and stories I will post in other threads

[kiretoce]

We can do without the war freak news.

[TheAvenger]

DESCRIPTION/BACKGROUND OF PHILIPPINE KULINTANG MUSIC:
Percussion ensemble music is found throughout Southeast Asia, from Kalinga to Sumatra to Myanmar to Irian Jaya. Today, in the Philippines, suspended gong ensemble music is found only where indigenous groups were able to maintain this ancient cultural heritage, despite Western colonialism. In the highlands of northern Luzon Island, "gansa" (flat gong) ensemble music is commonly played, while "kulintang" (knobbed gong) ensemble music is played in the south, throughout Mindanao Island and the Sulu Archipelago. The term "kulintang" refers to (1) the many types of traditional music ensembles of the Southern Philippines, (2) the many different musical instruments of those ensembles, in general, and (3) to the main melody instrument of the kulintang music ensemble.

http://www.pusod-us.org/kulintang.html

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[TheAvenger]

posting some stories which directly one cause of Muslims Filipinos desire to established a separate Republic. After their ancestor's sufferings from the injustices and genocidal campaign of the Spanish and American colonizers, now our present generations of Filipinos in the mainstream society still have prejudices on them.

[QUOTE] EDSA AND THE MOROS
By Ayesah Abubakar

PENANG, Malaysia -- Remembering the importance of EDSA1, others may not approve of EDSA 2 as comparable to the former's legacy. However, in the event of EDSA 2, several young Moros in Manila made history by joining the protesters at the EDSA Shrine.

I was one of those who campaigned for EDSA 2 because I condemned the Estrada administration's "all-out-war" actions towards the MILF (Moro Islamic Liberation Front) -despite a positive development in their negotiations. During the Estrada administration, most yuppies in Manila had become apathetic towards national issues.

At the height of the defections of (Defense) Secretary (Orlando) Mercado and (Armed Forces Chief of Staff) Gen. (Angelo) Reyes in EDSA 2, I dragged my whole staff including my boss to the EDSA flyover. On the other hand, they may have various reasons for joining the protest. We were there for days and nights up until we finally went to Malacanang - although I didn't march but drove all the way there.

I also remember my friends from the Muslim-Christian Human Rights group who were up onstage at EDSA 2 crying out for a stop to the military offensives in Mindanao ... sadly, the speaker, a Moro activist was ridiculed and booed.. Perhaps, because the crowd couldn't relate to the angst and sufferings of the Moros in Mindanao.

It was at that moment that I realized that in spite of our wanting to share with the Philippine's history, the Moro part of history cannot find acceptance among the Filipinos in Manila.

This discouraging attitude is reflected in how the rest of the country views the Mindanao conflict in general.

In hindsight, the armed conflict and violence that the Moros and other people like the Lumads and the Christians experience in Mindanao is just one part of the consequence of this intractable conflict.

The more vicious aspect is the mindset of the people outside of Mindanao who can easily opt to choose the military solution to end it all. Worse, at the height of the "all-out-war," many folks in Manila accepted that solution!

We have a long way to go in bringing a "culture of peace" in the Philippines....the government and MILF may sign an agreement...but granting that we stay with the Philippines, the ball will always be in the court of the majority of Filipinos. It's all up to them really. Hopefully they change their mindsets that peace is possible and that they can make it happen.

Perhaps the next momentous legacy in the Philippines after EDSA 1 would be Bangsamoro Mindanao--the day when the Philippines gives freedom to the Moro constituency in Mindanao--could be within or outside the Philippine State, but not this existing autonomy.

We hope so. (“In the Neighborhood” is Ayesah Abubakar’s column for MindaViews, the opinion section of MindaNews. Ayesah is the coordinator of the Mindanao Peace Program at the Research & Education for Peace Universiti Sains Malaysia or REPUSM in Penang, Malaysia.

For comments and suggestions, please email ayesah@bangsamoro.com [QUOTE]

http://www.maranao.com/index.php?opt...d=20&Itemid=44

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[TheAvenger]

In our view, peace and stability would be possible only when the people, especially in the grassroots, are deeply and completely healed of their hurts, prejudices and biases. The process will take a long time, perhaps a generation. Our government must take the lead in the healing process, for Muslim and Christian to trust each other and live together, in order to prevent the dismemberment of our country and to have a strong and united Republic.

All the people of Mindanao and Sulu especially our Muslim brothers and sisters should also learn to accept that their beloved island is now a shared land and our heritage, beliefs, and land tie us all together.

One of the steps in the healing proces is for our people to learn the history and cultures of our kababayan Muslim Filipinos.




























The home of the Tugayan artist in Lanao del Sur.





















Maranao Online :

http://www.maranao.com/

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[TheAvenger]

City of Zamboanga







Muslims praying outside a Mosque in the military's Southwest Command Headquarter in Zamboanga

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[TheAvenger]

By Jerry E. Esplanada
Inquirer
Last updated 06:03pm (Mla time) 08/24/2007


MANILA, Philippines -- The Department of Education (DepEd) is stepping up its efforts to provide high-quality education in Muslim public schools through the madrasah program.

The program, which includes the implementation of a Muslim-friendly school curriculum, will require at least P2 billion in the next four years, according to a DepEd report furnished the Philippine Daily Inquirer.

The Libyan government has pledged at least P200 million worth of textbooks for the DepEd initiative.

Madrasah, the Arabic word for school, aims to "positively contribute to the ongoing peace process, make the public education system more intensive and seek to improve the quality of life of Muslim school children through education," Education Secretary Jesli Lapus said.

The program is part of the department's ambitious Muslim Basic Education Road Map "in line with the government's Medium-Term Development Plan and its peace agreement with the secessionist Moro National Liberation Front."

"This is the department's modest yet significant contribution to the peace-building efforts by government and non-government agencies," Lapus said.

Lapus said the department recognizes the critical role of education in peace-building. "The school is where minds are formed and values are enhanced."

Three years ago, the DepEd started implementing a Muslim-friendly curriculum in selected public schools serving Muslim communities in Metro Manila.

In addition to Filipino, English, mathematics, science and makabayan, (nationalism) the Arabic language and Islamic values have been added to the elementary school curriculum.

According to Manaros Boransing, DepEd Undersecretary for Muslim Affairs, "this is to prove the sincerity of the department in providing free, quality education to all public school children regardless of ethnicity or religious affiliation."

The DepEd also plans to put up what it calls "Fund for Assistance to Muslim Education" or FAME. The project will require at least P500 million in seed money from the government.

The initiative, another component of the seven-point road map for upgrading basic education of Muslim Filipinos, will be created "by an Act of Congress," said Boransing.

FAME is similar to the existing Fund for Assistance to Private Education or FAPE.

Under the program, the government will solicit "matching donations" from Malaysia and Brunei, its "partners in Southeast Asia for improving the quality of Muslim education in the country."

Other road map components are: upgrading secular education in elementary and secondary schools serving Muslims; development of livelihood-skills education for Muslim out-of-school youth; provision of quality education for Muslim pre-school children; improvement of the health and nutritional status of Muslim students, especially those in public elementary schools; and development of a special alternative learning system Muslim out-of-school youth and adults.

This year, the DepEd has allocated P100 million for the alternative learning system for out-of-school youth, said Boransing. "They are the product of extreme poverty and the continuing armed conflict in Mindanao. Their problems are the most urgent."

The program's main objectives are "to be able to positively contribute to the peace process between the government and our Muslim brothers and improve the quality of their life through education," he said.

Compared to the whole of Mindanao, the Autonomous Region in Muslim Mindanao or ARMM registers the highest incidence of poor families and malnutrition, as well as maternal and child mortality rates.

A Congressional Planning and Budget Department report disclosed that the region has a "very low percentage of students in primary and secondary schools."

"Certainly, the region has the lowest level of human development in the country... More than 60 percent of the children younger than seven and up to 16 years old live in poor households," the report said.

Boransing said that the conflict in Mindanao has driven Muslims to other parts of the country where Muslim children have no access to the state-run education system.

According to him, the alternative learning program will first target Muslim out of school children in urban areas because in five to 10 years, they may become part of the peace and order problem.

The Libyan government has pledged at least P200 million worth of textbooks, all to be supplied by local publishers.

In 2004, DepEd Order No. 51 formally integrated the madrasah into the mainstream education system.

The DepEd currently has 459 public schools nationwide implementing the madrasah program, "excluding those in the ARMM," which is supposedly autonomous, said Boransing.

Like many of the other public schools, Muslim schools have apparently failed to deliver quality education "because of insufficient or irrelevant textbooks and instructional materials, lack of academically qualified teachers and lack of funds," said a DepEd report in the early 1990s (titled Making Education Work: An Agenda for Reform).

Boransing said "it's only during the Arroyo administration where the DepEd came up with an Islamic-friendly school curriculum for local Muslims. For public schools, we now have Arabic language and values education being taught alongside English, Filipino, Science and Makabayan subjects. For Muslim private schools, the Koran and two other Islamic religion subjects have been added. So they are now similar to Christian schools."

The DepEd started implementing these initiatives in school year 2005-2006.

The department has proposed to Congress a P260 million budget for this year's alternative learning and madrasah program "but we're only given P100 million."

"But we're working within the department that certain items will be realigned so we can get the budget we asked for. For 2008, we're asking for P520 million. For 2009, it's P700 million and for 2010, P967 million," Boransing added.


http://globalnation.inquirer.net/new...ticle_id=84523

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[lumpia]

Great thread peoples!

Beware: Good old Ranting ahead!
I'm sick and tired of some ignorant people claiming "Muslim" = Ethnic group. I once asked this guy who i struck a conversation with whether he was a Muslim because of the Allah ring he wore. He gallantly raised his head up and said "No no no! I'm not Muslim!! 100% full-blooded Pilipino ako!".. What sorta answer is THAT?! As if a Muslim cannot equal a Filipino! The term Muslim denotes someone who follows the Islamic Faith, as the term Christian denotes someone who follows Christian faith. All sorts of people are Muslims, not just the Arabs and the "Moro". Lapu-Lapu the first Filipino hero, was a Muslim Bisaya! Alot of ignorant people hide behind "oh the Muslims (in the Philippines) originate from Indonesia/Malaysia, they arent really from the Philippines" which is the BIGGEST BS I've ever heard! Bahasa Sug (Tausug language), as well as Samal, are all classified as a VISAYAN language by linguists. Its related closely to Butuanon! The ONLY difference between the groups is that the Tausug weren't colonized by the Spanish and the Bisaya were! In contrast, in Indonesia there are also Christians living around Manado, Sulawesi, Kalimantan and parts of Flores; the criteria for being an Indonesian though according to my friends, has NOTHING to do with religious identity, but pretty much which flag you pledge your allegiance to. Whereas in Pinas, its not stated, but its an unwritten "rule" to be hispanized and Christian if not Catholic! Well its a stupid backward unwritten code!! When will people stop putting barriers up and realise we are all more similar than different?? Just because of what your name for "God" is?? This is why some (unfortunate) Muslim Filipinos feel such hatred towards Christian Filipinos: not because of religious difference: but due to their general ignorance ethnocentric views. We need to educate the masses more, reform the education system, integrate more Muslims and Christians. Full stop!

Rant over

Phew! Nice thread! Remember that Dayangdayang song that was a song craze back in 98? You can watch it and other versions on youtube A friend told me. Its the new-techno version of the pangalay dance

[xXx carlos xXx]

Mindanao expressions by the leyte dance theater