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View Poll Results: What's your opinion of this building?
Love it! Superb design, perfect height and location. 210 28.69%
Like it. Good design, and the height seems reasonable for this location. 259 35.38%
Good design, but it needs to be taller. 136 18.58%
Good design, but it needs to be shorter. 24 3.28%
Hate it! Awful design, unsuitable height and location. 103 14.07%
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Old November 24th, 2006, 07:05 PM   #61
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They make it look pretty good! I was worried about it being squat, but it still looks tall. It reflects the setting sun beautifully (If it turns out like that!)
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Old November 24th, 2006, 08:19 PM   #62
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Hmm, the renders on the top and bottom there seem to be different...when looking at the detail on the top. The top pictures show the large open area glass bit taking up all of the "slant" at the top (do you see what I mean?)

But the bottom pics show a couple of floors coming up into that slant, which is different to the top.

Hmm
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Old November 24th, 2006, 08:35 PM   #63
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Yes, i think the bottom two are actually the previous design which was a more appropriate height for the design, it does indeed now look squat.

But i hope the clading looks that good, like one single piece of glass, stunning!
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Old November 24th, 2006, 08:57 PM   #64
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Now comes the hardest challenge, getting past Ruth Kelly
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Old November 24th, 2006, 09:50 PM   #65
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I've compiled rendering from the revised design only.
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Old November 24th, 2006, 10:04 PM   #66
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The revised design is far more appropriate; a much better scale than before. No need to worry about the height reduction, it will still appear tall. I can't believe people are calling a 600ft building stumpy.
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Old November 24th, 2006, 10:15 PM   #67
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*cough* 20 fenchurch street public inquiry *cough*
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Old November 24th, 2006, 10:24 PM   #68
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Maybe the backwards bitch will be too busy with the 20 Fenchurch Street inquiry too worry about this? She doesn't want to take on too much at once now, does she?
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Old November 24th, 2006, 11:17 PM   #69
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if it is about tall buildings next to the thames im afraid this one is caught up in it.
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Old November 24th, 2006, 11:29 PM   #70
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I just invisage her at one of those machines in arcades at a seaside town, where she holds a mallet and has to knock down the crocodile heads, only it's any tall proposal that can be viewed... from anywhere.

There's no way in that montage above that the top left and bottom left images are of the same design.
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Old November 24th, 2006, 11:30 PM   #71
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Considering the amount of designs with consent but currently unrealised I doubt the next year or two we will see very many new schemes coming forward.

With this new uncertainty that the public inquiry has thrown over London highrise planning it looks like we will be back to the planning limbo that surrounded the Heron Inquiry. Developers will just sit on their hands waiting to see which way the wind blows while building out their consented projects.

Still, it's not like we will be bored next year anyway. I for one can't wait for the Dashwood House redevelopment thread!
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None of those renders are from where the vast majority of people will see it from though!

I want to see how it'll look from street level.
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Old November 25th, 2006, 01:08 AM   #73
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I hate it
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Old November 25th, 2006, 02:06 AM   #74
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Actually having looked at those renderings again it's too tall for it's location the third and fourth pics whe you see it from where most normal people will see it from is just way too overbearing.

It could do with being a good 200m further away from the river.
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I think the renders prove that the low rise dross around there does not always mean a succesful waterfront and that the tower will definately enhance that area. If that **** ruth does something with this.....well i'll be writeing quiet a few letters to her boss. When is labour up for re -election anyway?
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Old November 25th, 2006, 12:35 PM   #76
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Maybe the backwards bitch will be too busy with the 20 Fenchurch Street inquiry too worry about this? She doesn't want to take on too much at once now, does she?
that backwards bitch could end up rejecting it even if the planners recommend approval (they might aswell have given prince charles the job)
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I think the renders prove that the low rise dross around there does not always mean a succesful waterfront and that the tower will definately enhance that area. If that **** ruth does something with this.....well i'll be writeing quiet a few letters to her boss. When is labour up for re -election anyway?
not until 2009. though hopefully when gorden brown takes over government next year he'll take the opportunity to restructure the government a little.. and get rid of that bloody awful woman
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Old November 25th, 2006, 12:39 PM   #78
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On the positive side, the time lines of public inquiries are notoriously slow. When Gordon Brown becomes PM next summer he will reshuffle the cabinet so there is a resonable chance Ruth Kelly will be elsewhere when the decision on 20 Fenchurch is due, let alone Beetham which hasn't even been called in yet!

Or I could just repeat exactly what was said in the post above.
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Old November 25th, 2006, 03:31 PM   #79
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How much will this tower actually interfer with key London sights when viewed from the London Eye? I can see it getting in the way of St. Paul's, Canary Wharf and distracting the eye from the Shard. And I can see it blotting out skyscrapers in the main City of London cluster:



It would be great if anyone with computer skills above that of MS Paint or other knowledge could prove otherwise...
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Actually having looked at those renderings again it's too tall for it's location the third and fourth pics whe you see it from where most normal people will see it from is just way too overbearing.
The bottom two in that montage are clearly the previous taller design. the top two are the most recent.
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