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Love it! Superb design, perfect height and location. 210 28.49%
Like it. Good design, and the height seems reasonable for this location. 261 35.41%
Good design, but it needs to be taller. 137 18.59%
Good design, but it needs to be shorter. 24 3.26%
Hate it! Awful design, unsuitable height and location. 105 14.25%
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Old January 11th, 2007, 10:51 PM   #121
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If this fails, so does Wilkinson Eyre and Doon Street.
Not a bad thing. I'm not sure there is a need to have towers in this area of London.
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Old January 11th, 2007, 11:12 PM   #122
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Maybe Doon Street, but WE tower, from what we hav seen, looks like it will be amazing if done properly.
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Old January 23rd, 2007, 07:11 PM   #123
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2 new official renderings with the correct height (taken from Beetham website):



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Old January 23rd, 2007, 07:21 PM   #124
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Is the coloured cladding gone then? And whatever is that object inside the glass at the top?
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Old January 23rd, 2007, 07:25 PM   #125
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It looks good in those renders. It looks very futuristic without the coloured cladding. Hopefully it will still go orange in the sun set though
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Old January 23rd, 2007, 07:27 PM   #126
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wow i think they make it look ten times better
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Old January 23rd, 2007, 07:29 PM   #127
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its a laser beem to shoot down aliens which would otherwise threaten the buildings of skyscrapers. the UN would say "
skyscrapers are a danger to spaceships!"
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Old January 23rd, 2007, 07:30 PM   #128
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It looks much better indeed. It is not my fave but I like it and ... I want to see some action. We know for sure Beetham will build it if they obtain planning permission. They have signed Jumeirah. btw, when is this scheme due to go before the development committee?
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Old January 23rd, 2007, 08:15 PM   #129
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Remembering tha renders are like politicians.....its mostly self serving claptrap to get what you want!

It looks a lot better and more acceptable to me.
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Old January 23rd, 2007, 08:55 PM   #130
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Note the random strips of white cladding make a slight appearance. You can see them better on the night shot.

This will be no different to the other Beetham's going up - cheap.
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Old January 24th, 2007, 09:58 AM   #131
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the object in the top is actually plant machinery for the window cleaning operation.
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Old January 24th, 2007, 11:45 AM   #132
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That's interesting. I'd actually prefer it if the top was just an empty glass box though, similar to the gherkin, as this would give anyone at the top a 360 degree view of London.
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Old January 24th, 2007, 12:44 PM   #133
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That's interesting. I'd actually prefer it if the top was just an empty glass box though, similar to the gherkin, as this would give anyone at the top a 360 degree view of London.
Well I suspect what you can see is just the track for something to run along and clean the windows, just as with the Gherkin, Gherkin007...but whats the alternative...increasingly dirty windows that you cant see out of anyway
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Old January 24th, 2007, 01:11 PM   #134
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Don't forget though that top part will also be a viewing gallery for the public.
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Old January 24th, 2007, 02:26 PM   #135
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Oh yes, it looks a lot better in those renderings - but they fail to show the extent of its large backside. It does look nicer without the excessively coloured cladding though

I have gone from complete indifference to this project to mild interest - looking forward to seeing some more renders
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Old January 24th, 2007, 06:46 PM   #136
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I don´t know what to say about Beetham. But I do hope this doesn´t get
built before the city proposals because its controversial design might get people to change their mind about tall buildings. The situation already seems to be a little tense with the Broadgate tower going up directly behind St Paul´s.

Maybe I´m wrong
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Old January 24th, 2007, 07:27 PM   #137
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Personally i think this now looks woeful, amazing what a height reduction can do, despite it's fairly significant height. Lost all it's soar, i'm actually gutted. The original i loved (i know many disagree) but this i think is feeble.
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Old January 24th, 2007, 08:34 PM   #138
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I was resolutely against the redesign of this tower. At first sight I felt the shortened height had managed to reduced the buildings grace while simultaneously failing to solve the flaws in the original desgin.
But with a bit of time to look at it as a seperate building in it's own right I've come to see it as one, which despite some flaws, is of a far higher design standard to most things that have been built along the river in the last 50 or so years. It's not quite at the level we might expect from Rogers, Grimshaw, Gehry and the other top names, but it certainly represents a genuine and, I think mostly succesful, attempt to respone to the prominent location by designing a striking and memorably building.
I say build it.
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Old January 24th, 2007, 08:46 PM   #139
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Sorry, but why in world does it take sooo long to get permission in London????
This has been going on for ages now, come on folks, lets get it together here.
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Old January 24th, 2007, 09:14 PM   #140
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I like this tower now that it's had it's height reduced. It looks more "sensible".
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