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***Mr_kiwi_fruit*** · September 18th, 2007, 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DavidEugene

This thread is becoming very Australian

Sorry Aussie cousins......

***Svartmetall*** · September 18th, 2007, 10:40 AM

If you didn't spell like an American, you'd realise that New Zealand spells favourite with a U.

I'll give you that I can't spell "category" and "argument" though, my bad.

If I were to use a spell checker, I'd at least make sure it was in proper English, not American.

Anyway, enjoy trying to belittle me; I'm done with you and your arguments. The only reason I picked on your grammar is because you were acting all high and mighty and trying to use words beyond the scope of your vocabulary and it made you sound a little silly.

Besides, spelling is one thing; understanding the language and being able to apply it correctly is quite another.

KIWIKAAS · September 18th, 2007, 10:49 AM

Time for beddy byes boys.

You can rip out each others spleen tommorrow

Davee · September 18th, 2007, 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KIWIKAAS

Time for beddy byes boys.

You can rip out each others spleen tommorrow

***Svartmetall*** · September 18th, 2007, 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DavidEugene

At least our "argument" amused someone.

jarbury · September 19th, 2007, 04:51 AM

Isn't it just hilarious when Americans forget that the rest of the world isn't American too in their spelling, culture etc.

GoluBoy · September 19th, 2007, 07:04 AM

Yes!,lets call in Wards Demolition for Eden Park.Hold it!,there's a much better idea in the form of Semtex.Yep!,wonderful stuff.Can start on the foundations for it's replacement quick smart.

I'd suggest a mix of he following:

Estádio do Dragão

Allianz Arena

Atatürk Olympic Stadium

Stadium New Zealand

ANYTHING! but this very sad joke

FFS! The bonus is that it makes the Sky Tower look brand new,although it's now 10 years old.

jarbury · September 19th, 2007, 07:08 AM

Tis nice in dreamland. More realistically, one must remember the ASB stand is less than 10 years old and is never going to be torn down this soon, and also everyone's said "no... you pay!"

What's the plan for the Terraces everyone? Are they going to stay as they are?

Mo Rush · September 19th, 2007, 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Utopia2007

Yes!,lets call in Wards Demolition for Eden Park.Hold it!,there's a much better idea in the form of Semtex.Yep!,wonderful stuff.Can start on the foundations for it's replacement quick smart.

I'd suggest a mix of he following:

Estádio do Dragão

Cape Town's world cup training venue, athlone stadium, being completed at the moment, will actually end up similar to Dragao. (i hope)

image hosted on flickr

image hosted on flickr

MonsieurAquilone · September 19th, 2007, 11:38 AM

I would have to agree with Utopia2007 idealistically. The government did say that it would fund a Waterfront stadium, what happened with Eden Park????? Come on NZ, please o please grow up and be a big country.

***Svartmetall*** · September 19th, 2007, 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MonsieurAquilone

I would have to agree with Utopia2007 idealistically. The government did say that it would fund a Waterfront stadium, what happened with Eden Park????? Come on NZ, please o please grow up and be a big country.

But like I said earlier, the Government did say they wouldn't invest in Eden Park as it is a privately owned ground. This is why they wanted to fund the Waterfront Stadium. It was Auckland city which threw up the roadblocks and stopped that proposal so I guess really it was deserved that the Government said "well, forget this" and walked off... Far be it for me to defend our Government though.

MonsieurAquilone · September 19th, 2007, 12:29 PM

Surely, because of the impending event that will take place there, the Government can do something even if it is a private ground. Either that or get a really rich investor to do something. I am going to hide away in a corner in 2011 if the stadium shown is what we will end up with. It is almost Auckland's worst architectural blunder.

SYDNEY · September 19th, 2007, 01:02 PM

Dullard's ego was bruised when the nimby's rejected the waterfront proposal and now he is sulking. The prick !

***Svartmetall*** · September 19th, 2007, 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ENIGMA

Dullard's ego was bruised when the nimby's rejected the waterfront proposal and now he is sulking. The prick !

I agree that they should probably bury the hatchet and fund the darned thing, but I can't see the Government changing their position. Either way, they're damned if they do and damned if they don't as people will turn round and say "But you said you'd not fund any upgrades at Eden Park" - end result being egg on the Governments face, or they'll say "Look at the shambles you're showing the world!" - thus, egg on the Governments face.

SYDNEY · September 19th, 2007, 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Svartmetall

I agree that they should probably bury the hatchet and fund the darned thing, but I can't see the Government changing their position. Either way, they're damned if they do and damned if they don't as people will turn round and say "But you said you'd not fund any upgrades at Eden Park" - end result being egg on the Governments face, or they'll say "Look at the shambles you're showing the world!" - thus, egg on the Governments face.

I agree - sometimes things should just be built - to hell with what the public think BUT that will never happen in an open and fair society like New Zealand. I guess that we have to accept the fact that we are getting a crock of shit and let's hope that other factors will make the RWC the best yet

I will drink to that

GoluBoy · September 20th, 2007, 06:23 AM

image hosted on flickr

Thanx Mo for teh pic.The Saffers know how to build Lekker Stadiums!

ENIGMA Dullard's ego was bruised when the nimby's rejected the waterfront proposal and now he is sulking. The prick !

LMAO!

MonsieurAquilone Surely, because of the impending event that will take place there, the Government can do something even if it is a private ground. Either that or get a really rich investor to do something. I am going to hide away in a corner in 2011 if the stadium shown is what we will end up with. It is almost Auckland's worst architectural blunder.

Perhaps we can organize an out of N.Z Tour during the RWC 2011.An opportunity to sample some sporting events at some of the worlds best Stadiums.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ms_by_capacity

Hey! IHaveNoLegs How's the best sports venue N.Z has to offer coming along??.When are they planning to start building the new stand?.

MonsieurAquilone · September 20th, 2007, 06:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Utopia2007

image hosted on flickr

Thanx Mo for teh pic.The Saffers know how to build Lekker Stadiums!

ENIGMA Dullard's ego was bruised when the nimby's rejected the waterfront proposal and now he is sulking. The prick !

LMAO!

MonsieurAquilone Surely, because of the impending event that will take place there, the Government can do something even if it is a private ground. Either that or get a really rich investor to do something. I am going to hide away in a corner in 2011 if the stadium shown is what we will end up with. It is almost Auckland's worst architectural blunder.

Perhaps we can organize an out of N.Z Tour during the RWC 2011.An opportunity to sample some sporting events at some of the worlds best Stadiums.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ms_by_capacity

Hey! IHAVENOLEGS How's the best sports venue N.Z has to offer coming along??.When are they planning to start building the new stand?.

Omg, i loooooooove that link. Perhaps I will hulicinate that Eden Park is like the the Allianz Stadium..or I could go to Europe again, my Italian bf awaits!

IHaveNoLegs · September 20th, 2007, 06:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Svartmetall

I agree that they should probably bury the hatchet and fund the darned thing, but I can't see the Government changing their position. Either way, they're damned if they do and damned if they don't as people will turn round and say "But you said you'd not fund any upgrades at Eden Park" - end result being egg on the Governments face, or they'll say "Look at the shambles you're showing the world!" - thus, egg on the Governments face.

that sums up the whole situation well
although anything a government does will be criticized

SYDNEY · September 21st, 2007, 06:25 AM

Council committed to Eden Park
SCOOP - Friday, 21 September 2007, 1:28 pm

Auckland City Council last night agreed it will make a conditional funding commitment of around $30 million to the redevelopment of Eden Park to ensure both the success of the 2011 Rugby World Cup and to deliver enduring benefits for the city. The council also earmarked $20 million for stadium design, and amenity and transport improvements that will make the stadium a “better neighbour” for nearby residents and provide long-term benefits for the city. The council has been discussing a conditional funding package with the government and the Eden Park Redevelopment Board. The package is made up of three components.

The first component is a direct contribution of about $21 million toward the stadium redevelopment. The council will only provide this funding if the Auckland Regional Council (ARC) makes a matching contribution as both the Rugby World Cup and the enhanced Eden Park stadium will provide major benefits to the whole Auckland region.

The second component is the write-off of about $9 million in existing debt owed to the council by the Eden Park Trust Board. This will help to ensure the long-term viability of this important facility. This debt will not be written off until the ARC makes its matching contribution of $21 million.

The final component is the contribution of $20 million towards stadium design, and amenity and transport improvements in the immediate vicinity of the park. These are aimed at improving both the aesthetics of the stadium and its usefulness for the local community and the city.

All three components are also conditional on the design quality of the redevelopment, as well as various governance arrangements and the trust board’s financial viability post construction. Councillor Richard Northey, chairperson of the Economic Development and Sustainable Business Committee, says that the council recognises it has a role to play “We want to contribute to the redevelopment to ensure the revamped stadium is sensitive to, and appropriate for, its neighbourhood. “We are also conscious that this is an opportunity to ensure the stadium maximises its value for a range of major events. Events like the Rugby World Cup are a chance for Auckland to shine on the world stage and to reap major benefits to our reputation, quality of life and economy,” he says. “Additional jobs, investment and overseas visitors as well as the buzz during and after the Rugby World Cup are all worth making a contribution towards.”

Mr Northey added that due to the clear regional nature of the benefits from this asset, the council felt that the ARC should also make a financial contribution. Mayor Dick Hubbard says that he is confident the outcome will be a splendid result for Auckland, with the council’s ratepayers contributing appropriately to a stadium that will benefit the city now and into the future. "We have signalled in our long-term plan that there’s a need for significant investment in international facilities,” says Mayor Hubbard. “The Rugby World Cup and the development of the stadium will underscore the council’s support for major events in New Zealand’s only true international city.”

metroman · September 23rd, 2007, 12:00 PM

What needs to happen is really quite simple, New Zealand needs to win the Rugby World Cup emphatically. I can describe it no other way. Provided that happens, that is when the government will come to the party. If they were going to spend a billion dollars on a waterfront stadium, then they are only hedging at the moment. Also an upcoming election may have some bearing on what happens. A stadium holding 62,000 is pretty lame when you are talking about rugby mad New Zealand. The Millenium Stadium in Wales holds 70,000 and it has a roof. Not only that but Cardiff has a population roughly equivalent to Christchurch or Wellington.

September 18th, 2007, 10:40 AM	#262
*Svartmetall* Ordo Ab Chao Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Past: Northampton, UK (19 years), Auckland NZ (7 years), Now: Stockholm, Sweden Posts: 9,168 Likes (Received): 206	If you didn't spell like an American, you'd realise that New Zealand spells favourite with a U. I'll give you that I can't spell "category" and "argument" though, my bad. If I were to use a spell checker, I'd at least make sure it was in proper English, not American. Anyway, enjoy trying to belittle me; I'm done with you and your arguments. The only reason I picked on your grammar is because you were acting all high and mighty and trying to use words beyond the scope of your vocabulary and it made you sound a little silly. Besides, spelling is one thing; understanding the language and being able to apply it correctly is quite another. Last edited by Svartmetall; September 18th, 2007 at 11:07 AM.

September 19th, 2007, 01:02 PM	#273
SYDNEY NEW ZEALAND Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 23,820 Likes (Received): 726	Dullard's ego was bruised when the nimby's rejected the waterfront proposal and now he is sulking. The prick ! __________________ Connoisseur of Beauty AUCKLAND [FLICKR] AUCKLAND [PBASE] [EYE] ON AUCKLAND BLOG

September 20th, 2007, 06:23 AM	#276
GoluBoy TrendSetter Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Auckland Posts: 810 Likes (Received): 0	image hosted on flickr Thanx Mo for teh pic.The Saffers know how to build Lekker Stadiums! ENIGMA Dullard's ego was bruised when the nimby's rejected the waterfront proposal and now he is sulking. The prick ! LMAO! MonsieurAquilone Surely, because of the impending event that will take place there, the Government can do something even if it is a private ground. Either that or get a really rich investor to do something. I am going to hide away in a corner in 2011 if the stadium shown is what we will end up with. It is almost Auckland's worst architectural blunder. Perhaps we can organize an out of N.Z Tour during the RWC 2011.An opportunity to sample some sporting events at some of the worlds best Stadiums. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ms_by_capacity Hey! IHaveNoLegs How's the best sports venue N.Z has to offer coming along??.When are they planning to start building the new stand?. Last edited by GoluBoy; September 20th, 2007 at 06:55 AM.

September 21st, 2007, 06:25 AM	#279
SYDNEY NEW ZEALAND Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 23,820 Likes (Received): 726	Council committed to Eden Park SCOOP - Friday, 21 September 2007, 1:28 pm Auckland City Council last night agreed it will make a conditional funding commitment of around $30 million to the redevelopment of Eden Park to ensure both the success of the 2011 Rugby World Cup and to deliver enduring benefits for the city. The council also earmarked $20 million for stadium design, and amenity and transport improvements that will make the stadium a “better neighbour” for nearby residents and provide long-term benefits for the city. The council has been discussing a conditional funding package with the government and the Eden Park Redevelopment Board. The package is made up of three components. The first component is a direct contribution of about $21 million toward the stadium redevelopment. The council will only provide this funding if the Auckland Regional Council (ARC) makes a matching contribution as both the Rugby World Cup and the enhanced Eden Park stadium will provide major benefits to the whole Auckland region. The second component is the write-off of about $9 million in existing debt owed to the council by the Eden Park Trust Board. This will help to ensure the long-term viability of this important facility. This debt will not be written off until the ARC makes its matching contribution of $21 million. The final component is the contribution of $20 million towards stadium design, and amenity and transport improvements in the immediate vicinity of the park. These are aimed at improving both the aesthetics of the stadium and its usefulness for the local community and the city. All three components are also conditional on the design quality of the redevelopment, as well as various governance arrangements and the trust board’s financial viability post construction. Councillor Richard Northey, chairperson of the Economic Development and Sustainable Business Committee, says that the council recognises it has a role to play “We want to contribute to the redevelopment to ensure the revamped stadium is sensitive to, and appropriate for, its neighbourhood. “We are also conscious that this is an opportunity to ensure the stadium maximises its value for a range of major events. Events like the Rugby World Cup are a chance for Auckland to shine on the world stage and to reap major benefits to our reputation, quality of life and economy,” he says. “Additional jobs, investment and overseas visitors as well as the buzz during and after the Rugby World Cup are all worth making a contribution towards.” Mr Northey added that due to the clear regional nature of the benefits from this asset, the council felt that the ARC should also make a financial contribution. Mayor Dick Hubbard says that he is confident the outcome will be a splendid result for Auckland, with the council’s ratepayers contributing appropriately to a stadium that will benefit the city now and into the future. "We have signalled in our long-term plan that there’s a need for significant investment in international facilities,” says Mayor Hubbard. “The Rugby World Cup and the development of the stadium will underscore the council’s support for major events in New Zealand’s only true international city.” __________________ Connoisseur of Beauty AUCKLAND [FLICKR] AUCKLAND [PBASE] [EYE] ON AUCKLAND BLOG

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September 18th, 2007, 10:49 AM	#263
KIWIKAAS Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Location: The Hague Posts: 3,713 Likes (Received): 10	Time for beddy byes boys. You can rip out each others spleen tommorrow

September 19th, 2007, 07:04 AM	#267
GoluBoy TrendSetter Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Auckland Posts: 810 Likes (Received): 0	Yes!,lets call in Wards Demolition for Eden Park.Hold it!,there's a much better idea in the form of Semtex.Yep!,wonderful stuff.Can start on the foundations for it's replacement quick smart. I'd suggest a mix of he following: Estádio do Dragão Allianz Arena Atatürk Olympic Stadium Stadium New Zealand ANYTHING! but this very sad joke FFS! The bonus is that it makes the Sky Tower look brand new,although it's now 10 years old.

September 19th, 2007, 11:38 AM	#270
MonsieurAquilone to fly Join Date: May 2007 Location: Bologna Posts: 1,421 Likes (Received): 1	I would have to agree with Utopia2007 idealistically. The government did say that it would fund a Waterfront stadium, what happened with Eden Park????? Come on NZ, please o please grow up and be a big country.

September 19th, 2007, 12:29 PM	#272
MonsieurAquilone to fly Join Date: May 2007 Location: Bologna Posts: 1,421 Likes (Received): 1	Surely, because of the impending event that will take place there, the Government can do something even if it is a private ground. Either that or get a really rich investor to do something. I am going to hide away in a corner in 2011 if the stadium shown is what we will end up with. It is almost Auckland's worst architectural blunder.

September 23rd, 2007, 12:00 PM	#280
metroman metroman Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: New York City Posts: 1,357 Likes (Received): 0	What needs to happen is really quite simple, New Zealand needs to win the Rugby World Cup emphatically. I can describe it no other way. Provided that happens, that is when the government will come to the party. If they were going to spend a billion dollars on a waterfront stadium, then they are only hedging at the moment. Also an upcoming election may have some bearing on what happens. A stadium holding 62,000 is pretty lame when you are talking about rugby mad New Zealand. The Millenium Stadium in Wales holds 70,000 and it has a roof. Not only that but Cardiff has a population roughly equivalent to Christchurch or Wellington.