NZ | Stadiums + Infrastructure

[whkfan]

Originally Posted by QinBriz

The basin is not that flash for one day internationals, cant hold enough people! And when the cake tin was on the drawing board they wanted to construct a stadium that would host enough events to justify the expense. Thats why it was 35k and not 45k, just a practical solution that meant it wouldnt cost to much and would get great use. In my opinion the Cake Tin is NZ's best stadium.

I concur fully.is it possible for the cake tin's capacity to be increased .can an adiitional tier be added ?

[KLK]

Originally Posted by whkfan

I concur fully.is it possible for the cake tin's capacity to be increased .can an adiitional tier be added ?

I suppose anything is possible if you have the money. They'd need to go straight up though. One of the sides is bordered by Aotea Quay, so there's no room to go outside the exisiting boundary on that side - unless the motorway was to run under/through an edge of the stadium.

But you'd probably end up with a bit of an eyesore - Imagine a short, fat silo.
A cylinder-like structure sitting out like dog's bollocks, as opposed to the relatively low-lying, unoffensive "tin" like structure it is now.

[IHaveNoLegs]

Originally Posted by QinBriz

The basin is not that flash for one day internationals, cant hold enough people! And when the cake tin was on the drawing board they wanted to construct a stadium that would host enough events to justify the expense. Thats why it was 35k and not 45k, just a practical solution that meant it wouldnt cost to much and would get great use. In my opinion the Cake Tin is NZ's best stadium.

westpac stadium gets used once or twice a year for cricket. you would be willing to make it a worse rugby/football ground (which would be atleast 20) for the sake of 1/2 games of cricket?
i doubt the stadium can undertake any major redevelopment.

[nthbeach]

It also looks crap when cricket is played at the stadium and 2/3rds of the yellow seats are vacant.
Here is a different idea. Dig up the surface, lay a football field a bit deeper, the stadium can move in, no need for temp. seats. Hard to explain but would get capacity over 40,000 and would certainly be cheaper than a 2nd tier.
A new stand at the basin has been mooted before by Wellington Cricket, this could increase capacity to around 18,000, add some lights and wala, the Basin is easily the best criket ground in NZ. Im sure that would be enough for ODIs too.

[Ironmanfood]

Originally Posted by whkfan

I concur fully.is it possible for the cake tin's capacity to be increased .can an adiitional tier be added ?

An additional tier is pretty much out of the question. It's built on reclaimed land, they spent about 6 months or maybe a year compacting the ground before they even started construction. It has been reported that to do this compaction to hold the extra weight of another tier would cost (I'm guessing) say 4 or 5 time sthe mount that the original bowl cost.

That's quite apart from the fact that with it already being a bowl rather than a rectangle that the upper tier would be a long way from the action.

If anything happens (and I doubt it in the forseeable fututre) it would be, like someone suggested earlier, digging down like Waikato Stadium did and filling the bowl into a rectangle and the Basin getting an extra stand.

I love watching tests at the Basin on the embankment, but I've also watched ODIs in the stadium in a corporate box, and the Basin has zero corporate hospitality, so both have pros and cons. But a new stand and lights at the Basin plus some corporate boxes would look like a viable option. But all down to costs.



(BTW, Athletic Park held 40k not 45K)

[Richard7666]

Does anyone know what the largest INDOOR stadiums in NZ are?

By seating capacity I know:

-Vector Arena holds 12,000
-Westpac Arena holds 7,200
-Stadium Southland holds 6,000

...but what about overall complex size?

[youngtim]

I'm thinking we need a thread that is specific to the venues that have been chosen to host the RWC 2011 in New Zealand. Photos, development news, stadium capacity etc.

[Richard7666]

I'd also like to see this info. However, considering it's hard to find even on the official RWC site, it's a pain to assemble the relevant info. I was going to go north to south, but I can't even find out what the name of the stadium in Whangerei is called =/

[spotila]

Well I'll start I suppose - start with the basics etc

McLean Park, Napier

Current capacity: 16,500
After RWC upgrade capacty: 21,000

Currently undergoing an upgrade of the eastern stand which will boost capacity quite a lot. Will try find some extended info on this.

--- "McLean Park is to get a huge $7.9 million upgrade of the Graeme Lowe stand and one of the best lighting systems in New Zealand - propelling Napier to 'super' stadium status in time for the 2011 Rugby World Cup."

--- "Recent adjustments have added seven hospitality boxes to the already proposed 19 boxes to cope with demand. Corporate lounge areas have been enlarged to increase the capacity of the stand by 200 people."

--- "The stand will take the park's total seating capacity to about 21,000 - 10,800 covered seats, 8000 embankment seats, 2000 temporary seats and 130 wheelchair sites."

[KLK]

Lovely ground, great setting, capacity around 25,000.

[cambennett]

I've always liked the look of that ground. Is it still called rugby park?

[KLK]

New Plymouth?

Its been "Yarrow Stadium" for as long as I can remember.....

Its got an amphitheatre type setting because the grass banks that rise up behind the seating/terraces at each end are almost as high as the side grandstands. Its a great atmosphere when full.

There is a similar setting at Rotorua. This ground is very deceiving because while it only has one grandstand, it can provide seating all the way round the perimeter, holding 35,000 (see the night shot from the Lions Tour, below) - almost as many as The Cake Tin

[KLK]

Originally Posted by spotila

Image of the new Graeme Lowe Stand, (to replace the tin shed in the foreground above)

[KLK]

And moving away from the smaller provincial grounds that will be playing a minor part in the tournament (2 games each), renders of the upgraded AMI Stadium in Christchurch, from their website:





And the existing Paul Kelly Stand:

[cambennett]

Originally Posted by KLK

New Plymouth?

Its been "Yarrow Stadium" for as long as I can remember.....

Its got an amphitheatre type setting because the grass banks that rise up behind the seating/terraces at each end are almost as high as the side grandstands. Its a great atmosphere when full.

There is a similar setting at Rotorua. This ground is very deceiving because while it only has one grandstand, it can provide seating all the way round the perimeter, holding 35,000 (see the night shot from the Lions Tour, below) - almost as many as The Cake Tin

Yeah New Plymouth. That's right yarrow stadium I forgot that. It's been called that since about the mid 90s i think. I'm pretty sure it was called rugby park before that same as Hamilton and invercargill's rugby grounds were for years. Although i could be wrong.

I've never actually been there but it looks great.

[IHaveNoLegs]

finding info on some of these develpoments seems pretty hard

Proposals for okara park:




3D fly though - WMV 2.64MB
Haven't heard anything about that for a while

Trafalgar park:
http://www.nelsoncitycouncil.co.nz/s...t-decision.htm
a fairly cheap upgrade considering what they were considering
Option 1- 'do nothing' Option 2- $2 mil Option 3- $20 mil Option 4- $7 mil
haven't heard much else


both probably very out of date

Its very public what is happening with auckland, christchurch and dunedin; i can only assume the caketin will stay the same with a few rows added (like for the lions tour).
Does anyone know what kind of upgrade hamilton will be getting?

[KLK]

Originally Posted by IHaveNoLegs

Does anyone know what kind of upgrade hamilton will be getting?

I wouldn't imagine they are doing anything, given the Stadium is relatively new.

But I read a few weeks back that for big events, the terracing at one end is replaced with stand seating, which ups the capacity slightly (which I think they did for the '05 Lions match, below).

[KLK]

Originally Posted by IHaveNoLegs

i can only assume the caketin will stay the same with a few rows added (like for the lions tour).

Probably. I think the Cake Tin has removable seating along the sides which is used to change slightly the configuration of the field from circular (cricket) to rectangular (rugby, football)

[UglyBob]

Carisbrook Ground



Or if completed in time, Forsyth Barr Stadium:

[Richard7666]

That's a damn good stadium they have in New Plymouth by the looks of it.