NZ | Stadiums + Infrastructure

[SYDNEY]

Originally Posted by TonyNZ

Would just like to say that Brisbanes population is nearing 1.8 million and Auckland is nearing 1.3 million, the reason Brisbane has 3 large stadiums is for 1 the Queensland sports and athletics centre(ANZ stadium) used to be the prime Rugby stadium in Brisbane until they realised they had to build a better stadium in a more prime location - because NSW had great stadiums Queensland had to aswell. The Gabba is their prime cricket and AFl ground, it has only just recently had a reno job to bring its capacity up past 40,000. These days athletics park doesnt get used that often, mostly only for its running track. I think it would be better to compare Auckland with Perth or Adelaide really becuase the 500,000 more people living in Brisbane would make a difference in how big/better the stadiums are.

Well said - it is like comparing apples with pears and I would like to add that the Eden Park upgrade proposal is for a wrap-around stadium as per this rendering -

[TonyNZ]

Ihavenolegs These are Irelands stadiums:

lansdowne road



Thurls Semple Stadium


Limerick Gaelic Grounds


Cork Pairc Ui Caoimh


Killarney Fitzgerald Stadium


Now that eveyone can see what the Irish stadiums are like you can see our stadiums are of better quality. By the way the stadium capacity you have shown are not the amount of seats they hold.

[CParker]

To be fair to Maclean Park, there should be a photo of the stand built in the early 90s along Latham St. It's a nice piece of architecture which really stands out from all sides.

[CParker]

Originally Posted by TonyNZ

Now that eveyone can see what the Irish stadiums are like you can see our stadiums are of better quality. By the the stadium capacity you have shown are not the amount of seats they hold.

Agreed, those Irish stadiums look a bit dreary. I don't think that Ireland has ever hosted a major international sporting event, which is the kind of impetus needed to upgrade or build new stadiums. I remember 1992 RWC games at Landsdowne Road, but not at the provincial centres.

[IHaveNoLegs]

a wrap around stadium has 1 stand yes 1 stand going all the way around
i don't understand how having 2 stands at eden park makes it a wrap around stadium

but then again when in comparison to carisbrook, jade, athletic park and nearly any other stadium in nz 2 stands is as close as you will get to having a stadium that is a complete stadium

[Trades]

ok heres my first post.

When it comes to stadiums across the country, You cant really compare NZ and Ireland because geographically they are very different.

However if you compare the main cities in each country. You will get a better idea of the comparison.

When you look at Auckland there are currently 3 regional stadiums of note. In 2011 if they do the full wraparound to Eden Park then there will be one world class stadium and two regional stadiums.

In Dublin there is Croke park which is world class(3rd largest in Europe at 80 odd thousand) and Landsdowne Road which is now undergoing an upgrade. Arguably by 2010 Dublin will have 2 world class stadiums in the region. I will try and find pics of the new landsdowne.

I think the main reason Dublin can regularly fill a stadium of 80,000 is that there is nowhere in the country that you cant get to in less than four hours drive. Therefore its a national stadium and a day out for all the regions. Mallard/Hubbard had it right and an Iconic National Stadium is what Auckland and the country needs especially when you consider the growing populations of BOP, Waikato and Northland all within driving distance.

In the meantime a wraparound Eden Park is the short/medium term answer.

[Trades]

I Have No,

ok to rephrase 'almost' wraparound eden park

[Trades]

landsdowne exterior

[Trades]

...and interior.

[Trades]

Sorry for threadjacking a little bit. Back to NZ stadiums....Heres Yarrow in Taranaki.

[IHaveNoLegs]

Short/Medium term answer? Yes what an idea think of the short term. Lets put the minimum wage up to $20 an hour and think you have done wonders for the economy because our non-skilled workers have more money, ignoring the fact it will destroy our export markets and the rest of the economy.

Ireland will probably never get the chance to hold an international sporting event, due to the fact that nearly all of their stadiums are designed for Gaelic football and hurling, which has a playing surface of 130–145 meters long and 80–90 meters wide while a football field is 100-110 metres long and 65-75 metres wide.

At Least Irelands grounds CAN ACTUALLY FIT THE SPORTS THAT ARE PLAYED IN THEM. Cricket fields are typically circles (in England they are squarish), which none of New Zealand’s major ‘multi purpose’ grounds can fit. While at rugby games those in attendance are miles from the pitch.

Okay, Irelands sporting grounds are dreary and look crap form the outside, but is that really the purpose of a stadium? Is a stadiums main function to simply look attractive from the outside, or to provide a comfortable, affordable venue to watch sport from? When I go to a stadium I prefer to watch the sport and try and to ignore the ugliness of jade stadium (which is fucking hard).

[Trades]

Short/Medium term answer? Yes what an idea think of the short term.

Unfortunately with two councils calling the shots we are'nt going to get anywhere fast. Government intervention seems mandatory at this stage.

[IHaveNoLegs]

homestead stadium in invercargill

[IHaveNoLegs]

Trafalger park nelson

[KIWIKAAS]

Originally Posted by TonyNZ

Would just like to say that Brisbanes population is nearing 1.8 million and Auckland is nearing 1.3 million, the reason Brisbane has 3 large stadiums is for 1 the Queensland sports and athletics centre(ANZ stadium) used to be the prime Rugby stadium in Brisbane until they realised they had to build a better stadium in a more prime location - because NSW had great stadiums Queensland had to aswell. The Gabba is their prime cricket and AFl ground, it has only just recently had a reno job to bring its capacity up past 40,000. These days athletics park doesnt get used that often, mostly only for its running track. I think it would be better to compare Auckland with Perth or Adelaide really becuase the 500,000 more people living in Brisbane would make a difference in how big/better the stadiums are.

Remember what a dump Lang Park was before it got rebuilt. The Gabba has been done up significantly too in recent years.
Up untill a few years back Brisbane didnt have much as far as top stadiums are concerned.

[IHaveNoLegs]

when brisbane got its stadiums re-done it had 2 quality stadiums, while when eden park gets re-done it will be a crappy piece-meal stadium that still can't properly cater to cricket and rugby.

[SYDNEY]

Can it before this turns into some child's play at creche. Quite frankly I don't care what Brisbane has or doesn't have (and that applies to any other city in the world). As for Eden Park - everything is up in the air at moment, so who knows what is really planned or what will be built. We shall wait and see.

This thread is entitled "New Zealand Stadiums" and if people have nothing to contribute regarding NEW ZEALAND stadiums - buzz off !

[TonyNZ]

Originally Posted by Trades

landsdowne exterior

Wow that looks awesome good on Ireland.

[GoluBoy]

Originally Posted by IHaveNoLegs

a wrap around stadium has 1 stand yes 1 stand going all the way around
i don't understand how having 2 stands at eden park makes it a wrap around stadium

but then again when in comparison to carisbrook, jade, athletic park and nearly any other stadium in nz 2 stands is as close as you will get to having a stadium that is a complete stadium

I agree.I don't support Eden Park upgrade AT ALL.

The rights to the RWC 2011 were given to us with the expectation that the Stadium would hold minimum of 60,000.The upgrade meets that need,but does fuck all else in portraying Auckland as a modern OECD member and shits on the RWC 2003 and RWC 2007.It's a typical "cheap-skates" fuck-knuckle option.Wrap around [big deal].If your going to go that far,then use your "brain" and demolish ASB Stand and continue the HOK design right around FFS!.

Even then,it only saiz that were semi competent..where as StadiumNZ would have put us in good esteem.Yes!...simple respect from the rest of the OECD.....Eden Park upgrade sends a clear message to the rest of the world, that we are a bunch of brainless,bureaucratic,no-hoper's whom couldn't organize a piss-up in a brewery.

God save N.Z!

Ditto: The stadia infrastructure we needed for RWC 2011 was the following.......

StadiumNZ - Bledisloe Wharf [70,000]
Albany Stadium - [current 25,000] ====> upgraded to [40,000]
Hamilton - [current 27,500] ====> upgraded to [35,000]
Rotorura - [current 35,000] ====> Makeover-same capacity.
Wellington Caketin - [current 34,500] ====> upgraded to [42,000]
Christchurch Jade - [current 36,500] ====> upgraded to [50,000]
Dunedin Carrisbrook - [current 30,000] ====> new location-new stadium-covered [38,000]

Existing Stadium Capacitys: http://www.worldstadiums.com/oceania..._zealand.shtml

[IHaveNoLegs]

Originally Posted by Allblackz

If we go ahead with the new Nation Stadium (and im praying they do) when we are going to have one hell of a sporting infastructure for a nation of this size. Hopefully it will open up more oppotunites for NZ to host more world class sporting event

Originally Posted by TonyNZ

Thats really cool kane i like it, you know i dont care what anyone says but New Zealand will have one hell of a stadium infrastructure for a country of only 4 million ppl once Okara park, eden park, jayde stadium and the new dundein stadium are built.

Originally Posted by TonyNZ

Compare New Zealands stadiums with Irelands stadiums, both countries have a similar population, yet you will see we have better quality stadia

all i am doing is proving that these statements are complete crap and that new zealands stadiums are crap in comparison to other countries