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Vilak · October 23rd, 2006, 06:43 PM

An empty stadium?

Neda Say · October 23rd, 2006, 07:22 PM

white elephant: a possession that is useless or troublesome, expensive to maintain or difficult to dispose of.

Vilak · October 23rd, 2006, 09:08 PM

We're not in england, we don"t ask a stadium to be sold out on every match.
An average of 55.000 would be great.

matherto · October 23rd, 2006, 09:54 PM

pretty much all French stadiums will become white elephants if Lyon keep winning the title over and over again, you french fans surely don't think it's very good?

Reptilikus · October 23rd, 2006, 10:25 PM

Is the stadium ever sold out?

Who is the arcitect? It looks very Calatrava.

KiwiBrit · October 23rd, 2006, 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vilak
We're not in england, we don"t ask a stadium to be sold out on every match.
An average of 55.000 would be great.

If the Velodrome already holds 60,000 people, what would the point be in increasing the stadiums capacity , if in your view, an average of 55,000 "would be great"?

***3tmk*** · October 23rd, 2006, 10:32 PM

^it's an average, meaning on certain games, they would like to get even bigger crowds, but they're limited due to the current capacity.
Like yesterday's game against Lyon, they had over 100.000 requests

KiwiBrit · October 23rd, 2006, 11:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3tmk
^it's an average, meaning on certain games, they would like to get even bigger crowds, but they're limited due to the current capacity.
Like yesterday's game against Lyon, they had over 100.000 requests

I understand what average means. My point is why increase the capacity for just a few games per season? At least 35,000 empty seats at most games will not please the money men, and you tell me a team (or it's fans) that likes to play football in a stadium that sparse of spectators?

Look at Juve in Italy. They are considering building a new stadium with a capacity of approx. 40,000 for that same reason.

Vilak · October 24th, 2006, 09:34 AM

What you have to understand is that the actual configuration of the stadium is a turnoff for certains people with almost every OM match on TV.
With a more comfortable/beautiful/accoustic-improved stadium, more people would come to be part of the velodrome feel.
Now a great stadium is an asset for teams. OM owner must thinks about the future. If he succeds to build and keep a strong team like lyon did, I think a 80.000 stadium won't be too big.
Talking of lyon, its winning streak won't turn us off from Ligue 1. To qualify for champion's league is very important from teams so our championship keeps all its interest for us.

skaP187 · October 24th, 2006, 09:45 AM

It may be strange what I say, but I exctualy like the velodrome the way it is. Yeah it needs a roof and a fix up. But I like the cirkel form. I think it is an unique stadium for that. The only thing they will need to do is make the main stand round to and of course a roof. but in my opinion it is a pretty impressive stadium as it is

Vilak · October 24th, 2006, 02:17 PM

Yes the stadium sell out about 3/4 times a years for ligue 1 matches.
It also sell out for big matches on cup, league cup and europeans matches.
being at 80.500 would make it suitable for national team biggest matches.
the architecte of this stadium is the Marseille architecture school.
The architecte of the project is christophe Guilizzi.

skaP187 · October 24th, 2006, 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vilak

Yes the stadium sell out about 3/4 times a years for ligue 1 matches.
It also sell out for big matches on cup, league cup and europeans matches.
being at 80.500 would make it suitable for national team biggest matches.
the architecte of this stadium is the Marseille architecture school.
The architecte of the project is christophe Guilizzi.

aaaah so it is rivalery with Paris what we are seeing here, good old French prestige! then I say make it 90.000 and deal one's and for all with those bastards from Paris...

Neda Say · October 24th, 2006, 06:05 PM

Hey wait a sec I'm from Paris !!!

Parisien don't even care if Velodrome is bigger than Parc des Princes it's been the case for a huge while now!

Marseille wants to do it a 80000 seater. Fine, be my guest but they better don't come complaining if they cannot handle the cost and take care of it in the long haul. Marseille can already have national team games in either football or rugby. Does the stadium need a roof? That is a no brainer, make it comfy and a fully featured business center is a good idea. Say that it needs to be expanded to 80000 seats well it's just one of this ludicrous dreams that is poping all other europe. I have to say, fans in Marseille are the greatest we have they've been through thick and thin, they could fill the stadium up two years ago the club add 50000 request from potential season ticket holder and they turned them down. With the show that the team i putting on there's no way you want to go to the games. I do hope for french football's sake that they'll be able to come back to the top!

I see one point going in the stadium's way. If they do overhaul the immediate surrondings of the Velodrome, yes then make it bigger but only if you do rejuvenate this area of the city.

Last point right now this project is to be entirely privately funded they are not to receive a dime from the city or any other governing body.

Vilak · October 24th, 2006, 09:01 PM

neda say, you talking about very interesting things.

First of all, I would like to voice my opinion and disagreee with you because i think RC lens are better fans than OM fans.
Om have UEFA fame , Lens doesn't and they have about the same amount of sympathy and fanbase. Lens is the one that deserve a stadium expansion in France.

you talked about rivalry with paris. It's a natural, long time emulation between the two clubs but I would like to point one thing:
But now, Om has the bittest relationship ever with lyon, a club which announced monday that its new 60.000 retractable roof stadium building would start in early 2007 for an opening in 2010.
now the rivalry is about Lyon and Marseille. Maybe it has something to do with the urging of MArseille having the biggest stadium in France.
For 8 years, PSG never had a bigger stadium than OM and was OK with it.
some people find the actual velodrome being a nice place. I'm Ok with it but in term of supporter perception, it's light years away from europe big club standard.
I don't attend matches to Velodrome so I can't talk for anybody but almost everybody complained about it once they attended a match.

concerning National team, Stade France will remains as the national stadium until a 100.000 stadium is built in "ile de France" (which is Paris close neighborough), a thing that will never happen.

Neda Say · October 24th, 2006, 11:08 PM

Ok ok

Neda Say · October 24th, 2006, 11:11 PM

If lyon gets a 60000 seater, Marseille has to build something bigger because of one thing:t hey'll never catch up with Lyon savvy business skills! So here I go, OM get yourself a 80000, may the best club win on and off the pitch and lets Lyon win a new championship or two

skaP187 · October 25th, 2006, 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skaP187

aaaah so it is rivalery with Paris what we are seeing here, good old French prestige! then I say make it 90.000 and deal one's and for all with those bastards from Paris...

No offences in ment, just want the biggest stadium possible! That is my only interest realy

Vilak · October 25th, 2006, 12:23 PM

It seems most of you agree with me than Om should spend it's money on the team rather than its stadium.
This bigger stadium competion, whatever is real or in our mind, seems useless as long as team can't have a safe, equital competition

skaP187 · October 26th, 2006, 07:17 PM

ah men that sucks, eventhough you're right. I want the big old bad stadiums! Don't think just do it!

Vilak · October 26th, 2006, 11:12 PM

Whatever we think, this project is almost a done deal.
The money will be assembled, they want it too much.
It's a good thing for france to have, like most of the other european top championship, two 70.000+ stadiums.

October 23rd, 2006, 10:32 PM	#47
*3tmk* Dennis Rodman Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Pyongyang Posts: 10,296	^it's an average, meaning on certain games, they would like to get even bigger crowds, but they're limited due to the current capacity. Like yesterday's game against Lyon, they had over 100.000 requests __________________ .SuperpoliS .

October 24th, 2006, 09:34 AM	#49
Vilak Let's dance in style! Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Nimes Posts: 568 Likes (Received): 0	What you have to understand is that the actual configuration of the stadium is a turnoff for certains people with almost every OM match on TV. With a more comfortable/beautiful/accoustic-improved stadium, more people would come to be part of the velodrome feel. Now a great stadium is an asset for teams. OM owner must thinks about the future. If he succeds to build and keep a strong team like lyon did, I think a 80.000 stadium won't be too big. Talking of lyon, its winning streak won't turn us off from Ligue 1. To qualify for champion's league is very important from teams so our championship keeps all its interest for us. Last edited by Vilak; October 24th, 2006 at 09:39 AM.

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October 23rd, 2006, 06:43 PM	#41
Vilak Let's dance in style! Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Nimes Posts: 568 Likes (Received): 0	An empty stadium?

October 23rd, 2006, 07:22 PM	#42
Neda Say Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Montreal Posts: 1,010 Likes (Received): 9	white elephant: a possession that is useless or troublesome, expensive to maintain or difficult to dispose of.

October 23rd, 2006, 09:08 PM	#43
Vilak Let's dance in style! Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Nimes Posts: 568 Likes (Received): 0	We're not in england, we don"t ask a stadium to be sold out on every match. An average of 55.000 would be great.

October 23rd, 2006, 09:54 PM	#44
matherto Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: St. Helens, Merseyside Posts: 475 Likes (Received): 0	pretty much all French stadiums will become white elephants if Lyon keep winning the title over and over again, you french fans surely don't think it's very good?

October 23rd, 2006, 10:25 PM	#45
Reptilikus Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Århus Posts: 72 Likes (Received): 0	Is the stadium ever sold out? Who is the arcitect? It looks very Calatrava.

October 24th, 2006, 09:45 AM	#50
skaP187 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Alicante Posts: 1,688 Likes (Received): 10	It may be strange what I say, but I exctualy like the velodrome the way it is. Yeah it needs a roof and a fix up. But I like the cirkel form. I think it is an unique stadium for that. The only thing they will need to do is make the main stand round to and of course a roof. but in my opinion it is a pretty impressive stadium as it is

October 24th, 2006, 02:17 PM	#51
Vilak Let's dance in style! Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Nimes Posts: 568 Likes (Received): 0	Yes the stadium sell out about 3/4 times a years for ligue 1 matches. It also sell out for big matches on cup, league cup and europeans matches. being at 80.500 would make it suitable for national team biggest matches. the architecte of this stadium is the Marseille architecture school. The architecte of the project is christophe Guilizzi.

October 24th, 2006, 06:05 PM	#53
Neda Say Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Montreal Posts: 1,010 Likes (Received): 9	Hey wait a sec I'm from Paris !!! Parisien don't even care if Velodrome is bigger than Parc des Princes it's been the case for a huge while now! Marseille wants to do it a 80000 seater. Fine, be my guest but they better don't come complaining if they cannot handle the cost and take care of it in the long haul. Marseille can already have national team games in either football or rugby. Does the stadium need a roof? That is a no brainer, make it comfy and a fully featured business center is a good idea. Say that it needs to be expanded to 80000 seats well it's just one of this ludicrous dreams that is poping all other europe. I have to say, fans in Marseille are the greatest we have they've been through thick and thin, they could fill the stadium up two years ago the club add 50000 request from potential season ticket holder and they turned them down. With the show that the team i putting on there's no way you want to go to the games. I do hope for french football's sake that they'll be able to come back to the top! I see one point going in the stadium's way. If they do overhaul the immediate surrondings of the Velodrome, yes then make it bigger but only if you do rejuvenate this area of the city. Last point right now this project is to be entirely privately funded they are not to receive a dime from the city or any other governing body.

October 24th, 2006, 09:01 PM	#54
Vilak Let's dance in style! Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Nimes Posts: 568 Likes (Received): 0	neda say, you talking about very interesting things. First of all, I would like to voice my opinion and disagreee with you because i think RC lens are better fans than OM fans. Om have UEFA fame , Lens doesn't and they have about the same amount of sympathy and fanbase. Lens is the one that deserve a stadium expansion in France. you talked about rivalry with paris. It's a natural, long time emulation between the two clubs but I would like to point one thing: But now, Om has the bittest relationship ever with lyon, a club which announced monday that its new 60.000 retractable roof stadium building would start in early 2007 for an opening in 2010. now the rivalry is about Lyon and Marseille. Maybe it has something to do with the urging of MArseille having the biggest stadium in France. For 8 years, PSG never had a bigger stadium than OM and was OK with it. some people find the actual velodrome being a nice place. I'm Ok with it but in term of supporter perception, it's light years away from europe big club standard. I don't attend matches to Velodrome so I can't talk for anybody but almost everybody complained about it once they attended a match. concerning National team, Stade France will remains as the national stadium until a 100.000 stadium is built in "ile de France" (which is Paris close neighborough), a thing that will never happen.

October 24th, 2006, 11:08 PM	#55
Neda Say Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Montreal Posts: 1,010 Likes (Received): 9	Ok ok

October 24th, 2006, 11:11 PM	#56
Neda Say Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Montreal Posts: 1,010 Likes (Received): 9	If lyon gets a 60000 seater, Marseille has to build something bigger because of one thing:t hey'll never catch up with Lyon savvy business skills! So here I go, OM get yourself a 80000, may the best club win on and off the pitch and lets Lyon win a new championship or two

October 25th, 2006, 12:23 PM	#58
Vilak Let's dance in style! Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Nimes Posts: 568 Likes (Received): 0	It seems most of you agree with me than Om should spend it's money on the team rather than its stadium. This bigger stadium competion, whatever is real or in our mind, seems useless as long as team can't have a safe, equital competition

October 26th, 2006, 07:17 PM	#59
skaP187 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Alicante Posts: 1,688 Likes (Received): 10	ah men that sucks, eventhough you're right. I want the big old bad stadiums! Don't think just do it!

October 26th, 2006, 11:12 PM	#60
Vilak Let's dance in style! Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Nimes Posts: 568 Likes (Received): 0	Whatever we think, this project is almost a done deal. The money will be assembled, they want it too much. It's a good thing for france to have, like most of the other european top championship, two 70.000+ stadiums.