MARSEILLE - Stade Vélodrome (60,031 -> 67,054) - EURO 2016 - Page 4

skaP187 · October 28th, 2006, 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vilak

Whatever we think, this project is almost a done deal.
The money will be assembled, they want it too much.
It's a good thing for france to have, like most of the other european top championship, two 70.000+ stadiums.

in that way yes, and ofcourse I am all for it!!! (hehehe)
When the club goes broke, the stadium will still be there (and that's my only real interest, despite I like Olympique Marseille as a club too, would be a shame but well)
Now they have to build a 70 000 + stadium in Lyon and PSG cannot stay behind. Three badass stadiums (+ SDF) in France. Yep I am all for it!

Vilak · October 28th, 2006, 10:32 PM

skaP187:
in the "french football on the rise" topic, i described what Lyon new stadium will look like. it doesn't match your expectation (and mine) from the capacity standpoint but it will be a hell of a stadium. This is not a "maybe" project but a "will be done for sure" one.
Paris have a stadium where they feel comfortable and this stadium is not undefinitly expandable ("Parc des princes expansion" topic). For sure, you could expand it to 80.000 as a 98 world cup project showed it but this is too much beyond PSG owner financial possibilities. For Parc des Prince, don't expect an expansion above 46.000 to 54.000.
THAT's why Marseille wants to expand. Players, black-ties, fans, attendance, TV audience and Marseille hometown people ABSOLUTLY HATE the velodrome as it actually stands.

Neda Say · October 29th, 2006, 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vilak

This is not a "maybe" project but a "will be done for sure" one.

How do you know that? Not to put your words in doubts, I'd like to know your source(s)!?

Vilak · October 29th, 2006, 10:03 PM

Aulas announced it tuesday just after have been honored "chevalier de la Legion d'honneur".
Only the site can change but the stadium and business complex will be build as I described it.

Neda Say · October 29th, 2006, 10:19 PM

No I meant the velodrome extension you seem so sure it's going to happen I refered to that expansion.

Vilak · October 30th, 2006, 07:40 AM

Ah OK! I missed the spot.
Just because everybody wants it so much.
So, Yes, for me it's a "will be done for sure" project.

skaP187 · October 30th, 2006, 07:23 PM

I hope deep in my heart that they fix up this stadium with a roof and make the main/bussenis stand round to. I think it is an impressive stadium as it is, only laks a roof MOP

Vilak · October 30th, 2006, 08:40 PM

What is a roof MOP???
I also am very pleased with this project.
A big, covered velodrome with an asymetrical look!
Astonishing.
Better that SDF. Should be the n°1 stadium in France.
I don't think there's enough place around the stadium to build a business center

Neda Say · October 31st, 2006, 10:37 AM

I think that if you destroy some of the warehouses located next to the stadium there's enough room to build anything you want. But there's a catch you need autorization to do it and usually the city is all about it but will it be the case this time I'm not so sure? I hope they allow it and that pravete investor start something there besides if such a stadium is build it's then or never time to get some rejuvenation program in place for the area. Marseille also needs a multipurpose arena for shows and indoor sports. but that's another topic!

Vilak · October 31st, 2006, 03:20 PM

I'm not sure but it seems that everything that's around Velodrome is privatly owned.
so if you want to extand it further with shops, hotels and companies, you know the name of the game:
money, money, money.....

Neda Say · November 1st, 2006, 12:39 AM

Not exactly everything the local Palais des sports (french for arena but generally crappier) is right there, there's also a very hold sport complex and warehouses who are not all in use. But yes you want to rejuvenate you need money and a lot of it. But really a new look stadium surrounded by shit holes well it's not that perfect an environment is it!? all they really need is a letter from city hall giving backing to some other investor to overhaul the zone. They do that all the time in North America can we do it in France I 'm not so sure but they should at least try.

Vilak · November 7th, 2006, 10:16 AM

It seems the project doesn't need to demolish or modify what's around the stadium.

Neda Say · November 7th, 2006, 07:18 PM

True the project does not require any destruction in the surrounding.Only I do.

Vilak · November 7th, 2006, 09:02 PM

And quite frankly, the design is superb (I know some of you don't like it).

Neda Say · November 8th, 2006, 04:55 PM

that's why you can't have this work of art surrounded by bullshitty warehouses and dirt fields

Vilak · November 8th, 2006, 09:41 PM

I don't think so because nobody cares...
Marsillians want a big/beautiful/comfortable stadium.
I deeply don't think they care about what kind of architecture the stadium area has. their eyes are only focused on the stadium

Neda Say · November 9th, 2006, 10:40 PM

Their eyes are but not the one of the generous investor who's going to spend around a 140 and who want a small return on investment. Ireally don't think it's going to happen without at least a small retribution in land property.

Vilak · November 11th, 2006, 07:56 PM

Sure you"re right.
Perhaps the naming of the stadium should be done.
the "champignon de Paris" stadium would sounds good isn't it?

Neda Say · November 12th, 2006, 07:29 PM

oh yes it would be good but more seriously I would not have any naming done it's not in the french culture or at least you should not do it with "historical" stadium if the velodrome was to be demolished and a new stade build then yes name it Stade Neuf Telecom or Khalifa Arena I don't give a f..ck.

If not leave it alone... The only stadium who in my opinion would not suffer
would be geoffroy guichard the stade Casino ou le Chaudron Géant.

I think when you name a stadium it's all about the brand image of the company behind it orange arena, thomson park, Motorola garden, Novotel Stadium are fine but some new stadium are having a rough start like the new dick's sporting goods park of denver that thing is bad.

Vilak · November 12th, 2006, 09:42 PM

So the RICARD arena would be a good name for Marseille perhaps.....

Anyway, I can't wait to have the lastest news about all this story.

October 28th, 2006, 10:32 PM	#62
Vilak Let's dance in style! Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Nimes Posts: 568 Likes (Received): 0	skaP187: in the "french football on the rise" topic, i described what Lyon new stadium will look like. it doesn't match your expectation (and mine) from the capacity standpoint but it will be a hell of a stadium. This is not a "maybe" project but a "will be done for sure" one. Paris have a stadium where they feel comfortable and this stadium is not undefinitly expandable ("Parc des princes expansion" topic). For sure, you could expand it to 80.000 as a 98 world cup project showed it but this is too much beyond PSG owner financial possibilities. For Parc des Prince, don't expect an expansion above 46.000 to 54.000. THAT's why Marseille wants to expand. Players, black-ties, fans, attendance, TV audience and Marseille hometown people ABSOLUTLY HATE the velodrome as it actually stands. Last edited by Vilak; October 28th, 2006 at 10:37 PM.

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October 29th, 2006, 10:03 PM	#64
Vilak Let's dance in style! Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Nimes Posts: 568 Likes (Received): 0	Aulas announced it tuesday just after have been honored "chevalier de la Legion d'honneur". Only the site can change but the stadium and business complex will be build as I described it.

October 29th, 2006, 10:19 PM	#65
Neda Say Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Montreal Posts: 1,008 Likes (Received): 8	No I meant the velodrome extension you seem so sure it's going to happen I refered to that expansion.

October 30th, 2006, 07:40 AM	#66
Vilak Let's dance in style! Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Nimes Posts: 568 Likes (Received): 0	Ah OK! I missed the spot. Just because everybody wants it so much. So, Yes, for me it's a "will be done for sure" project.

October 30th, 2006, 07:23 PM	#67
skaP187 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Alicante Posts: 1,684 Likes (Received): 10	I hope deep in my heart that they fix up this stadium with a roof and make the main/bussenis stand round to. I think it is an impressive stadium as it is, only laks a roof MOP

October 30th, 2006, 08:40 PM	#68
Vilak Let's dance in style! Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Nimes Posts: 568 Likes (Received): 0	What is a roof MOP??? I also am very pleased with this project. A big, covered velodrome with an asymetrical look! Astonishing. Better that SDF. Should be the n°1 stadium in France. I don't think there's enough place around the stadium to build a business center

October 31st, 2006, 10:37 AM	#69
Neda Say Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Montreal Posts: 1,008 Likes (Received): 8	I think that if you destroy some of the warehouses located next to the stadium there's enough room to build anything you want. But there's a catch you need autorization to do it and usually the city is all about it but will it be the case this time I'm not so sure? I hope they allow it and that pravete investor start something there besides if such a stadium is build it's then or never time to get some rejuvenation program in place for the area. Marseille also needs a multipurpose arena for shows and indoor sports. but that's another topic!

October 31st, 2006, 03:20 PM	#70
Vilak Let's dance in style! Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Nimes Posts: 568 Likes (Received): 0	I'm not sure but it seems that everything that's around Velodrome is privatly owned. so if you want to extand it further with shops, hotels and companies, you know the name of the game: money, money, money.....

November 1st, 2006, 12:39 AM	#71
Neda Say Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Montreal Posts: 1,008 Likes (Received): 8	Not exactly everything the local Palais des sports (french for arena but generally crappier) is right there, there's also a very hold sport complex and warehouses who are not all in use. But yes you want to rejuvenate you need money and a lot of it. But really a new look stadium surrounded by shit holes well it's not that perfect an environment is it!? all they really need is a letter from city hall giving backing to some other investor to overhaul the zone. They do that all the time in North America can we do it in France I 'm not so sure but they should at least try.

November 7th, 2006, 10:16 AM	#72
Vilak Let's dance in style! Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Nimes Posts: 568 Likes (Received): 0	It seems the project doesn't need to demolish or modify what's around the stadium.

November 7th, 2006, 07:18 PM	#73
Neda Say Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Montreal Posts: 1,008 Likes (Received): 8	True the project does not require any destruction in the surrounding.Only I do.

November 7th, 2006, 09:02 PM	#74
Vilak Let's dance in style! Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Nimes Posts: 568 Likes (Received): 0	And quite frankly, the design is superb (I know some of you don't like it).

November 8th, 2006, 04:55 PM	#75
Neda Say Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Montreal Posts: 1,008 Likes (Received): 8	that's why you can't have this work of art surrounded by bullshitty warehouses and dirt fields

November 8th, 2006, 09:41 PM	#76
Vilak Let's dance in style! Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Nimes Posts: 568 Likes (Received): 0	I don't think so because nobody cares... Marsillians want a big/beautiful/comfortable stadium. I deeply don't think they care about what kind of architecture the stadium area has. their eyes are only focused on the stadium

November 9th, 2006, 10:40 PM	#77
Neda Say Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Montreal Posts: 1,008 Likes (Received): 8	Their eyes are but not the one of the generous investor who's going to spend around a 140 and who want a small return on investment. Ireally don't think it's going to happen without at least a small retribution in land property.

November 11th, 2006, 07:56 PM	#78
Vilak Let's dance in style! Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Nimes Posts: 568 Likes (Received): 0	Sure you"re right. Perhaps the naming of the stadium should be done. the "champignon de Paris" stadium would sounds good isn't it?

November 12th, 2006, 07:29 PM	#79
Neda Say Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Montreal Posts: 1,008 Likes (Received): 8	oh yes it would be good but more seriously I would not have any naming done it's not in the french culture or at least you should not do it with "historical" stadium if the velodrome was to be demolished and a new stade build then yes name it Stade Neuf Telecom or Khalifa Arena I don't give a f..ck. If not leave it alone... The only stadium who in my opinion would not suffer would be geoffroy guichard the stade Casino ou le Chaudron Géant. I think when you name a stadium it's all about the brand image of the company behind it orange arena, thomson park, Motorola garden, Novotel Stadium are fine but some new stadium are having a rough start like the new dick's sporting goods park of denver that thing is bad.

November 12th, 2006, 09:42 PM	#80
Vilak Let's dance in style! Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Nimes Posts: 568 Likes (Received): 0	So the RICARD arena would be a good name for Marseille perhaps..... Anyway, I can't wait to have the lastest news about all this story.