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Old March 18th, 2016, 08:23 PM   #2641
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It does mean 1day 3 autumns, probably a modern fancy name
Thanks, I didn't see any sense on that, after after your comment I have searched "1 day 3 autumns", and it seems it is an idiom that means "I miss you" or "one day (away from a dear one) seems like three years" and that makes sense in the context.
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Old March 20th, 2016, 08:39 AM   #2642
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It does mean 1day 3 autumns, probably a modern fancy name
You are right, it literally means one day away from you like three autumns, it's a fancy way of "I miss you, I love you so much".

This is a idiom comes from 10th century BC poems Collection 诗经(ShiJing),
《诗经·王风·采葛》“彼采葛兮,一日不见,如三日兮!彼采萧兮,一日不见,如三秋兮!彼采艾兮,一日不见,如三岁兮!”
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Old March 20th, 2016, 12:07 PM   #2643
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You are right, it literally means one day away from you like three autumns, it's a fancy way of "I miss you, I love you so much".

This is a idiom comes from 10th century BC poems Collection 诗经(ShiJing),
《诗经·王风·采葛》“彼采葛兮,一日不见,如三日兮!彼采萧兮,一日不见,如三秋兮!彼采艾兮,一日不见,如三岁兮!”
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Old March 20th, 2016, 08:59 PM   #2644
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Is it true that Shanghai in the next 50 years will be underwater?
If global temperature increases by 2 degree, then sea level rises.
The sea water will flood all coastal areas.

Is it safe to live in that city in the long time perspective?
What authorities do to prevent this disaster?
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Old March 21st, 2016, 04:49 AM   #2645
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Is it true that Shanghai in the next 50 years will be underwater?
It isn't.

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The sea water will flood all coastal areas.
It won't.

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Is it safe to live in that city in the long time perspective?

It is.

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What authorities do to prevent this disaster?
What it normally takes to prevent flooding. Includes building dambs, barrages and all other relevant infrastructure. Best example of that would be The Netherlands. According to the idiotic 'forecasts' of the flooding and global warming mongers the entire country should have been underwater centuries ago. Is it?

The 'global warming' mythologists love to give 'predictions' about city X or city Y being 'underwater' in a given amount of years. What they forget to mention is that such a scenario is plausible only if no action would be taken to prevent it from happening. The problem with their scenario is that action will be taken. In fact it is being taken as we speak. Which is why such 'will be underwater' scenarios are nothing but complete and utter bull**it.
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Old March 21st, 2016, 05:35 AM   #2646
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If Shanghai would be under water, all citys on coasts would be unter water. Sydney, New York, Barcelona...

Looking at Hongkong, they pour on country. And i have heard, that at the yangtze river delta, the water is going back and there is an agriculture recovery. i don´t know if its true but i have heard it. Shanghai itself was once under the sea. the country area was therefore only from the sea.

And by the way, the North American continental plate migrates direction asia. eventually it will merge and there displace the sea.
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Old March 21st, 2016, 05:37 AM   #2647
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The earth is alive and it is not a problem if we have an climate change. we need freedom to respond to changes. then we will not have problems .
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Old March 21st, 2016, 10:38 AM   #2648
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[QUOTE=Pansori;131541242]It isn't.

"What it normally takes to prevent flooding. Includes building dambs, barrages and all other relevant infrastructure. Best example of that would be The Netherlands. According to the idiotic 'forecasts' of the flooding and global warming mongers the entire country should have been underwater centuries ago. Is it?"

The world's climate scientists are idiots!? Wow. What's your PhD in by the way?
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Old March 21st, 2016, 04:32 PM   #2649
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You didn't actually read my post did you?

No scientists are not idiots. Global warming mongers are.

There is a difference between concluding that global warming is happening (it is). Or that it is in part caused by human activity (it probably is).

And claims that because of that a city X or Y 'will be underwater after x0 years' (it won't).

Global warming is indeed happening but it doesn't (and won't in the future) cause the doomsday scenario that global warming mongers wish it did.

No city will be underwater in 50 or 100 or 2000 years because of global warming. And neither it will affect the humanity in any profound way as some schmucks wish it did.

It may indeed cause negative effects on backward societies and countries that are unwilling to invest in infrastructure and safety measures but that is a problem of their backwardness and not global warming. China is certainly not one of them.

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Old March 22nd, 2016, 12:49 AM   #2650
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If we have an climate change, statism protection is the worst what we can do. statism protection is like socialism. It doesn´t work.

You can understand it through reading the following articles...

https://mises.org/search/site/climate%20protection
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Old March 26th, 2016, 06:51 PM   #2651
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New riverside track for runners
Shanghai Daily
March 26, 2016



XUHUI District plans to create a plastic pedestrian track along the Huangpu River this year, an official said yesterday.

The track will be laid along a 3.6-kilometer-long riverside area and will be expanded southwards to 7.2 kilometers in the second phase of the project, said an official with West Bund, which is in charge of riverside development.

Stations will be set up every kilometer along the track where walkers and joggers can rest, change their clothes, or even take a free shower, said Chen Chao, deputy general manager of the corporation.

“An increasing number of local runners have been attracted to the Xuhui riverside area,” said Chen, who aims to make the track the most attractive one in the city.

The area was once home to the city’s early industrial infrastructure, including cement factories, timber mills, a coal pier and a railway station.
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Old March 28th, 2016, 05:40 PM   #2652
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Museum to celebrate Expo spirit
March 26, 2016



A new museum celebrating the World Expo will be opening in Shanghai at the end of the year.

Bureau of International Expositions chief Vincente Gonzalez Loscertales said the World Expo Museum will also serve as an Expo information center.

“Our duty is to keep the achievement and memory of the World Expo alive,” said Loscertales during a visit to Shanghai, which hosted the 2010 Expo. “The museum will be a training, information and education platform conveying the spirit of Expo.” Loscertales and his team visited the construction site in Puxi yesterday.

“The opening exhibitions will promote the coming World Expos, including the 2017 Astana World Expo and the 2020 Dubai World Expo,” said museum director Liu Xiuhua. “We are also planning to organize some international symposiums with the leading museums of the world.”
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Old April 2nd, 2016, 06:05 PM   #2653
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https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s?__biz=MzA...of50ER1mEWu#rd

Longyang 6 line hubs disclosure, "center of the universe" in Pudong
A new proposal 180 metres tall, but there isn'nt any activity in the plot yet, it seems a long term project.
Very far from the main skylines, as usual in Shanghai...

The line is the distance between this project and the center of Lujiazui skyline, 6.8 km.












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Old April 4th, 2016, 12:00 AM   #2654
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Longyang to me has always been an interesting area. I am quite familiar with this area as I live very close by.

500 meters away from the Longyang station, at around Huamu Road and Fangdian Road, you have the cleanest and the most beautiful and peaceful area of Shanghai. A lot of nice residential buildings and parks there. The Pudong Kerry Centre has got to be one of my favourite malls in Shanghai. The atmosphere is great, the people are great, it is basically a small community hub for the residents around the area. I don't know how to describe it, but of all places that i have been in Shanghai, Pudong Kerry Centre gave me the strongest feeling of being in a "first world" country.

And then you head south and take a 10min walk, you see Longyang road station, which really reminds me of Shanghai in the 90s. How can two places so close to each other be the complete polar opposite?
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Old April 4th, 2016, 12:57 AM   #2655
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Longyang to me has always been an interesting area. I am quite familiar with this area as I live very close by.

500 meters away from the Longyang station, at around Huamu Road and Fangdian Road, you have the cleanest and the most beautiful and peaceful area of Shanghai. A lot of nice residential buildings and parks there. The Pudong Kerry Centre has got to be one of my favourite malls in Shanghai. The atmosphere is great, the people are great, it is basically a small community hub for the residents around the area. I don't know how to describe it, but of all places that i have been in Shanghai, Pudong Kerry Centre gave me the strongest feeling of being in a "first world" country.

And then you head south and take a 10min walk, you see Longyang road station, which really reminds me of Shanghai in the 90s. How can two places so close to each other be the complete polar opposite?
I've never seen that place, but for me the most exciting thing about Shanghai is those constrasts, between futuristic and traditional, and also maybe developed and rural/old, as you said about that area. So I hope they preserve a bit of everything!.
Now in Shanghai, the most important thing I miss is taller residential towers, I hate that 32 floor limit.
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Old April 16th, 2016, 11:43 AM   #2656
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It seems Huangpu - SRE Oasis Aegean Sea Garden project, a project with a 200 metres - 42 floors tower that has been around since 10 years ago, has started demolition of the plot. It's located in / very close to Xintiandi, the old town, 2.2km south of People's Square.
Since the project has been around for so long, I think there might be changes in the general design.
Also, I don't know if the demolition includes to negotiate the expropiation with the people living currently in the plot or if that has been solved already. The full process of expropiation+demolition usually takes 1 to 3 years, demolition only, just a few days.
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Now in Shanghai, the most important thing I miss is taller residential towers, I hate that 32 floor limit.
I have never heard of any city having a height or floors limit for a specific use as residential (or offices, even). Shanghai has the world's most populous city proper, so I'm not sure if a 32-floors limit actually exists or not, especially if Shanghai already has a condominium complex with 50+-floor towers (Shimao Riviera Garden).
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Old April 18th, 2016, 11:23 AM   #2658
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I have never heard of any city having a height or floors limit for a specific use as residential (or offices, even). Shanghai has the world's most populous city proper, so I'm not sure if a 32-floors limit actually exists or not, especially if Shanghai already has a condominium complex with 50+-floor towers (Shimao Riviera Garden).
I don't know exactly how the limit works, but if you count the floors, like 99% of residential buildings reach up to 30-34 floors, also many office buildings have that number of floors, but their floors are taller and they build a tall parapet on top of the building to make it look taller. Any new residential compound you see under construction is restricted to this number of floors. But it seems there are some specific projects that are allowed to go higher. So I guess there's a general ~33 floor restriction (or maybe it's 100 metres restriction) for every project, and only in very concrete plots it is allowed to go higher. So everytime I see in google earth or in pictures a bunch of wide residential buildings, I know it's not going to be taller than 34 floors. And that's a bit dissapointing, everytime I see a new plot under construction, I would like to have the mistery of if it's going to be really tall, but now I know there won't be any suprises unless it's a very special and very well known project.

About taller residential buildings, there's that Shimao Rivera Garden compound with buildings around 50 floors, there are some compounds around it that also reach 40-45 floors, outside that area, there's only this one that reaches 45 floors: http://www.gaoloumi.com/forum.php?mo...age%3D1&page=1
and in the rest of the city there are only 6-10 residential buildings in the 35-40 floor range, however there are hundreds of 30-34, so there's a very clear ceiling.
Also, recently a plot has been allowed to reach 150m for 3 residential buildings: http://www.aiweibang.com/yuedu/101521905.html
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In Vienna and Berlin, there are also limits for the heights. It is called "Traufhöhe" - Eaves Height.

I don´t know of any city in the world, who has a free limit for heights....
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In Vienna and Berlin, there are also limits for the heights. It is called "Traufhöhe" - Eaves Height.

I don´t know of any city in the world, who has a free limit for heights....
In Spain, the most important planning restriction is height, so everywhere you want to build has a very concrete height limit. And for Shanghai it is a good thing to keep construction well controlled and avoid some excesses like in Hong Kong, but as I like skyscrapers I hate that, I want more surprises!. And Shanghai's urban landscape os becoming boring and repetitive with so many 30-floor buildings but very similar dimensions.
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