Hanoi - Ciputra International City

tq · October 21st, 2006, 06:48 PM

ok, Ciputra gets it own Thread...will repost some refined photos of Ciputra to have a nice collection here...

***Sinjin P.*** · October 22nd, 2006, 08:34 AM

^ Cool masterplan. Is this on the works already though?

tq · October 22nd, 2006, 12:18 PM

~ 30% is done. Most of them villas, some high-rises and UNIS.

skidlin · October 22nd, 2006, 06:57 PM

i don't like the unfriendly fences in front all those villa, but i especially like the classical gate of ciputra city, reminds me of one of the german victory gates with the chariots.

coolink · October 22nd, 2006, 10:09 PM

tq last summer you're back, how many apartment buildings had taken off ground?

from other model not this one, I counted the Ciputra had almost 60 buildings, ranging from 20-40 storeys tall.

If this project completed hanoi skyline will change dramatically.

on the 1990s documentary flim on Shanghai, the reporter said, she couldn't believe the rate of construction in Shanghai. "someday people will say New York is the Shanghai of USA"
who knew it came true......now I watched another documentary film, they said Shanghai is now 8 times larger than New YOrk..... that is so cool, only 16yrs time.

I wouldn't compare hanoi with the world yet, but with the construction rate in Hanoi, I think they will surpass Saigon very soon. because people in Saigon don't like to live in Apartments and the construction rate is so damn slow. they take 1 day at a time in saigon ya know.

tq · October 23rd, 2006, 07:36 PM

its difficult to say but they are not very tall (~20 -40 story)...I think that Tay Ho Tay will change Hanoi's skyline dramatically because they build it next to Westlake...so high-rises will make Hanoi's Skyline taller...Hanoi is small so its easier to fill the city with high-rises...but Saigon has more commercial centres which make the skyline more interesting in my opinion...Ba Dinh and Hoan Kiem District are free from high-rises now...and they build a lot of new french low-rises there...most of new high-rises are getting build at the west (Tay Ho, Tu Liem and Cau Giay) and south (Dong Da)...Hanoi has a lot of those well residential lanes under way...so high-rises there are not buidling that close to each other...but Saigon has in every districts high-rises which may look unstructured...

skidlin · October 23rd, 2006, 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bang

tq last summer you're back, how many apartment buildings had taken off ground?

from other model not this one, I counted the Ciputra had almost 60 buildings, ranging from 20-40 storeys tall.

If this project completed hanoi skyline will change dramatically.

on the 1990s documentary flim on Shanghai, the reporter said, she couldn't believe the rate of construction in Shanghai. "someday people will say New York is the Shanghai of USA"
who knew it came true......now I watched another documentary film, they said Shanghai is now 8 times larger than New YOrk..... that is so cool, only 16yrs time.

I wouldn't compare hanoi with the world yet, but with the construction rate in Hanoi, I think they will surpass Saigon very soon. because people in Saigon don't like to live in Apartments and the construction rate is so damn slow. they take 1 day at a time in saigon ya know.

where did you see that documentary film
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirty_...s_in_the_world
by area and by population shanghai is not 8 times the size of new york.

***Saigoneseguy*** · October 23rd, 2006, 08:17 PM

From that list, Saigon has only 3.5 mil kia` o.0

skidlin · October 23rd, 2006, 09:37 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of..._by_population
this is the metropolitan list, saigon has over 5mil. so i think 3.5mil. on the list before represents the inner core of the city...or wiki is just lying straightly

VietnamCalling · October 24th, 2006, 03:52 AM

Saigon's registered population is around 5 million but if you add the illegals and workers from the provinces then it would balloon to 8 million.

coolink · October 25th, 2006, 07:11 PM

info on the wikipedia I think was updated by people surfing like you and I

I watched the documentary film on channel 42, Discovery Canada. dedicated to world science, sometimes history and travel shows too......just 2 weeks ago.
I'm very sure they're telling the truth.
New York has only 7mils, Shanghai has over 20mils, even the population is 3 times larger. WHen the Chinese build they build to last, build to impress, build to compete, so I'm not surprised.

Saigon has almost 10mil

another_viet · October 25th, 2006, 09:55 PM

it all depends on if u r talking about the metropolitan area or the proper city itself....

tq · November 1st, 2006, 03:44 PM

Jaroslaw · November 1st, 2006, 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bang

WHen the Chinese build they build to last, build to impress, build to compete...

Build to last? Are you kidding? See my Shantou thread on ssp city photos... even their buildings from 20-30 years ago are falling down already.

Build to impress or compete? What terrible reasons to build... you build for your customers. Not to mention that this Pudong thing is a disaster in urban terms...

Anyway, thanks for the pics, I will have to go see this for myself one of these days.

***Saigoneseguy*** · November 1st, 2006, 09:26 PM

I don't like many cities in China, in some extent they look like an oversized concrete playground, but Pudong is really nice isn't it?

skidlin · November 1st, 2006, 09:34 PM

i agree jaroslaw...the chinese cities are a mess...there's no room for air...it's impressive that some of their towers are huge, but every one of them look out of place...no uniform match...overgrown.
buildings will never last forever,...think how many of the original 7 wonders of the world are left still standing today.

btw...i heard on the little saigon radio a couple days ago,...poland has a monthly wage of $200...but warsaw look so nice...wat's the secret?

coolink · November 1st, 2006, 10:35 PM

jaro what you do for living?
I'm so inspired I want to quit my daytime job and do what you do, travel around the world, taking pictures, explore the beauty of life

yes Jaro 20-30 that's pretty long compare to few months or 1-2 yrs in Saigon.
I read an article they said Shanghai now build so much that they have plenty of vacant apartments and offices.

if you're talking about the quality of life/city then Shanghai wouldn't be the place. But I'm talking about its grandeur, its a fantasy (come true). and the pace of construction is the envy of many countries.

I love the futuristic looking of most of the towers in Shanghai, But I still prefer the tree line boulevards of Saigon and Hanoi. I love walking or driving under big canopy of trees.

my best choice for Saigon to replicate are SIngapore and Chicago. Chi cago to me is a classy ville, with classy skyscrappers. Hong KOng, New York are beautiful but chaotic, Toronto is too small, Sydney is ugly, but they have the opera house and the bridge to even out.

long story short.
China they know how to compete, VN they work when they want too.

But I do hope that once they join WTO and put an end to "joint venture" projects, foreign investors will be attracted to build bigger buildings.

***Saigoneseguy*** · November 2nd, 2006, 06:09 AM

Quote:

poland has a monthly wage of $200

Maybe that was communist Poland, PL's gdp per capita is now ranking 43rd worldwide.

diz · November 2nd, 2006, 06:10 AM

OMG, in the middle of the building, you can interact with your neigbor through the balcony.

tq · November 2nd, 2006, 10:47 PM

source: http://hanoiciputra.com

October 21st, 2006, 06:48 PM	#1
tq Hanoian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: 河內 - Hà Nội Posts: 7,168	Hanoi - Ciputra International City ok, Ciputra gets it own Thread...will repost some refined photos of Ciputra to have a nice collection here... __________________ ~~~ 1000 YEARS of THANG LONG - DONG DO - HANOI ~~~ x [official anniversary thread] - x [most recent photos] - x [next 1000 years]

October 22nd, 2006, 08:34 AM	#2
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October 22nd, 2006, 12:18 PM	#3
tq Hanoian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: 河內 - Hà Nội Posts: 7,168	~ 30% is done. Most of them villas, some high-rises and UNIS. __________________ ~~~ 1000 YEARS of THANG LONG - DONG DO - HANOI ~~~ x [official anniversary thread] - x [most recent photos] - x [next 1000 years]

October 22nd, 2006, 06:57 PM	#4
skidlin Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: ... Posts: 819	i don't like the unfriendly fences in front all those villa, but i especially like the classical gate of ciputra city, reminds me of one of the german victory gates with the chariots. __________________ "To build bigger buildings, there needs to be bigger infrastructure, like streets with 12 lanes, and everything will follow." - M.E.

October 22nd, 2006, 10:09 PM	#5
coolink fearless Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: bồng lai Posts: 12,195	tq last summer you're back, how many apartment buildings had taken off ground? from other model not this one, I counted the Ciputra had almost 60 buildings, ranging from 20-40 storeys tall. If this project completed hanoi skyline will change dramatically. on the 1990s documentary flim on Shanghai, the reporter said, she couldn't believe the rate of construction in Shanghai. "someday people will say New York is the Shanghai of USA" who knew it came true......now I watched another documentary film, they said Shanghai is now 8 times larger than New YOrk..... that is so cool, only 16yrs time. I wouldn't compare hanoi with the world yet, but with the construction rate in Hanoi, I think they will surpass Saigon very soon. because people in Saigon don't like to live in Apartments and the construction rate is so damn slow. they take 1 day at a time in saigon ya know. __________________ Dong Chiem parish attack cầu nguyện cho giáo xứ Cồn Dầu, Đà Nẵng đang bị nhà nước cướp đất và hành hung giáo dân.

October 23rd, 2006, 07:36 PM	#6
tq Hanoian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: 河內 - Hà Nội Posts: 7,168	its difficult to say but they are not very tall (~20 -40 story)...I think that Tay Ho Tay will change Hanoi's skyline dramatically because they build it next to Westlake...so high-rises will make Hanoi's Skyline taller...Hanoi is small so its easier to fill the city with high-rises...but Saigon has more commercial centres which make the skyline more interesting in my opinion...Ba Dinh and Hoan Kiem District are free from high-rises now...and they build a lot of new french low-rises there...most of new high-rises are getting build at the west (Tay Ho, Tu Liem and Cau Giay) and south (Dong Da)...Hanoi has a lot of those well residential lanes under way...so high-rises there are not buidling that close to each other...but Saigon has in every districts high-rises which may look unstructured... __________________ ~~~ 1000 YEARS of THANG LONG - DONG DO - HANOI ~~~ x [official anniversary thread] - x [most recent photos] - x [next 1000 years]

October 23rd, 2006, 08:17 PM	#8
*Saigoneseguy* Vivat capitalismus Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Saigon Posts: 5,187	From that list, Saigon has only 3.5 mil kia` o.0 __________________ Last edited by the Ministry of culture and information.

October 23rd, 2006, 09:37 PM	#9
skidlin Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: ... Posts: 819	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of..._by_population this is the metropolitan list, saigon has over 5mil. so i think 3.5mil. on the list before represents the inner core of the city...or wiki is just lying straightly __________________ "To build bigger buildings, there needs to be bigger infrastructure, like streets with 12 lanes, and everything will follow." - M.E.

October 24th, 2006, 03:52 AM	#10
VietnamCalling Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 130	Saigon's registered population is around 5 million but if you add the illegals and workers from the provinces then it would balloon to 8 million. __________________ "War is God's way of teaching Americans geography." -Ambrose Bierce

October 25th, 2006, 07:11 PM	#11
coolink fearless Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: bồng lai Posts: 12,195	info on the wikipedia I think was updated by people surfing like you and I I watched the documentary film on channel 42, Discovery Canada. dedicated to world science, sometimes history and travel shows too......just 2 weeks ago. I'm very sure they're telling the truth. New York has only 7mils, Shanghai has over 20mils, even the population is 3 times larger. WHen the Chinese build they build to last, build to impress, build to compete, so I'm not surprised. Saigon has almost 10mil __________________ Dong Chiem parish attack cầu nguyện cho giáo xứ Cồn Dầu, Đà Nẵng đang bị nhà nước cướp đất và hành hung giáo dân.

October 25th, 2006, 09:55 PM	#12
another_viet another_viet Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: fairfax,VA Posts: 406	it all depends on if u r talking about the metropolitan area or the proper city itself....

November 1st, 2006, 03:44 PM	#13
tq Hanoian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: 河內 - Hà Nội Posts: 7,168	__________________ ~~~ 1000 YEARS of THANG LONG - DONG DO - HANOI ~~~ x [official anniversary thread] - x [most recent photos] - x [next 1000 years]

November 1st, 2006, 09:26 PM	#15
*Saigoneseguy* Vivat capitalismus Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Saigon Posts: 5,187	I don't like many cities in China, in some extent they look like an oversized concrete playground, but Pudong is really nice isn't it? __________________ Last edited by the Ministry of culture and information.

November 1st, 2006, 09:34 PM	#16
skidlin Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: ... Posts: 819	i agree jaroslaw...the chinese cities are a mess...there's no room for air...it's impressive that some of their towers are huge, but every one of them look out of place...no uniform match...overgrown. buildings will never last forever,...think how many of the original 7 wonders of the world are left still standing today. btw...i heard on the little saigon radio a couple days ago,...poland has a monthly wage of $200...but warsaw look so nice...wat's the secret? __________________ "To build bigger buildings, there needs to be bigger infrastructure, like streets with 12 lanes, and everything will follow." - M.E.

November 1st, 2006, 10:35 PM	#17
coolink fearless Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: bồng lai Posts: 12,195	jaro what you do for living? I'm so inspired I want to quit my daytime job and do what you do, travel around the world, taking pictures, explore the beauty of life yes Jaro 20-30 that's pretty long compare to few months or 1-2 yrs in Saigon. I read an article they said Shanghai now build so much that they have plenty of vacant apartments and offices. if you're talking about the quality of life/city then Shanghai wouldn't be the place. But I'm talking about its grandeur, its a fantasy (come true). and the pace of construction is the envy of many countries. I love the futuristic looking of most of the towers in Shanghai, But I still prefer the tree line boulevards of Saigon and Hanoi. I love walking or driving under big canopy of trees. my best choice for Saigon to replicate are SIngapore and Chicago. Chi cago to me is a classy ville, with classy skyscrappers. Hong KOng, New York are beautiful but chaotic, Toronto is too small, Sydney is ugly, but they have the opera house and the bridge to even out. long story short. China they know how to compete, VN they work when they want too. But I do hope that once they join WTO and put an end to "joint venture" projects, foreign investors will be attracted to build bigger buildings. __________________ Dong Chiem parish attack cầu nguyện cho giáo xứ Cồn Dầu, Đà Nẵng đang bị nhà nước cướp đất và hành hung giáo dân.

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