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Old December 10th, 2006, 09:15 PM   #101
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Old December 11th, 2006, 05:21 AM   #102
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I stumbled across this thread finally. Things are shaping up quite nicely and thanks to everyone for posting photos! I'm really excited for you guys and I sure hope that they will be televising matches for us to watch out here on the west coast. I'll definitely support Toronto until our Whitecaps get a franchise.

I was wondering what the kit will look like on the front because MLS said that they will have advertising on the front like clubs in Europe for 2007. The Toronto name on the front would have to go I reckon. Anyone know much more on this?
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Old December 11th, 2006, 09:41 AM   #103
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... I think this is my favourite project in Toronto - it's great infill, it will really enhance the feeling of Exhibition Place - much better then the large parking lot. I also love the use of the warm yellow brick, it's great that its the brick of choice at the EX.

(and I'm happy the food building is still there!!
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Old December 12th, 2006, 01:06 AM   #104
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I stumbled across this thread finally. Things are shaping up quite nicely and thanks to everyone for posting photos! I'm really excited for you guys and I sure hope that they will be televising matches for us to watch out here on the west coast. I'll definitely support Toronto until our Whitecaps get a franchise.

I was wondering what the kit will look like on the front because MLS said that they will have advertising on the front like clubs in Europe for 2007. The Toronto name on the front would have to go I reckon. Anyone know much more on this?

I have a feeling it's going to be Rogers (at least I hope!).















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Old December 12th, 2006, 01:35 AM   #105
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I stumbled across this thread finally. Things are shaping up quite nicely and thanks to everyone for posting photos! I'm really excited for you guys and I sure hope that they will be televising matches for us to watch out here on the west coast. I'll definitely support Toronto until our Whitecaps get a franchise.

I was wondering what the kit will look like on the front because MLS said that they will have advertising on the front like clubs in Europe for 2007. The Toronto name on the front would have to go I reckon. Anyone know much more on this?
A shirt sponsor is coming but they haven't signed a deal yet.
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Old December 12th, 2006, 06:16 PM   #106
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Rising now on the grounds of Exhibition Place on the Toronto waterfront is BMO Field, a sight that inspires different feelings in different people.

For the soccer crowd, it's the long-awaited home for their favourite sport, for the men's and women's national sides, for a new professional team, Toronto FC, and for next summer's FIFA under-20 World Cup.

For the skeptics, it's a boondoggle, yet another instance of public money being squandered in the interests of a wealthy private concern, Maple Leaf Sports and Entertainment, which owns the Major Soccer League franchise, and which will operate the stadium.

Whatever the viewpoint, whatever the math, that last concern diminishes the more the venue can be used for purposes other than those that directly benefit the folks who have already made their $18-million investment back (and then some) by peddling naming rights for $27-million over 10 years.
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To that end, here's a fact that some might find surprising. They won't be able to play Canadian football in the new park.

The stands at the south end, built on permanent foundations, sit right in the middle of where the end zone would be. Length-wise, the field simply won't fit.

So knock off a few of those possible alternate uses for the place -- Vanier Cups and high-school football championships, for example, which certainly cuts into the public-good argument. And of course, BMO Field cannot now serve as the home of the Toronto Argonauts.

That last option isn't one that the current owners of the Canadian Football League team are willing to acknowledge. They have a lease at the Rogers Centre and will tell anyone willing to listen that they're more than happy in the cavernous dome.

Privately, though, it wouldn't be shocking if their noses were a bit out of joint at what's happened here, considering the tortured history of the Argos' own doomed stadium projects at the Varsity and York University sites, considering that they feel as though they didn't receive nearly the same political support when they were trying to go it alone, and considering that some day, moving into more intimate quarters might make enormous sense for the franchise.

A complicating factor is that one of the principals in MLSE, Larry Tanenbaum, is also one of the prime movers behind bringing a National Football League franchise to Toronto. He and Argos' co-owner Howard Sokolowski may have a long-standing, mostly friendly relationship, but the optics certainly aren't good.

Perhaps the existence of the Argos, and by extension, of the CFL, isn't as much of an impediment to Tanenbaum's NFL dreams as some believe. Still, for the mayor of Toronto, David Miller, a significant booster of BMO Field, the fate of the Argos has been a bit of a motherhood issue. In that context, it is a bit unseemly for a project that has benefited from approximately $45-million in public funds to be designed so as to cut off one of the Argos' possible escape routes in the case of an NFL invasion.

According to MLSE executive vice-president Bob Hunter, no malice was intended. The decision to build as they did was a purely practical, financial one. "We knew that we couldn't build a CFL stadium at that price," he said, pointing out that the budgets for both the Varsity and York projects were in excess of $100-million, versus $62.9-million for BMO Field.

It was always going to be a soccer-first stadium. They had to get it built fast, in time for the MLS season opener next spring. They were limited in the design by its footprint (there is a new road close behind the south stand and no space to grow beyond the open north end).

They weren't inclined to take on the extra cost of making the bleachers movable (as they would have been at Varsity), allowing for a Canadian football field's 110-yard playing surface and 20-yard end zones.

Certainly it would have been preferable to max out the possible uses for the park. "But you can only max out if you can do it under your existing budget," deputy mayor Joe Pantalone said yesterday.

And if some day, the Argos would like to move to BMO Field? They'd be more than welcome, Hunter and Pantalone agree. Just come up with the money to knock down and rebuild the end stands and expand the seating capacity by five or 10 thousand. The seating alone would cost, in today's dollars, approximately $15-million. Then there would be the expense of demolishing and redesigning/rebuilding the south stand, which Pantalone estimates at "a few handfuls of millions of dollars."

Of course, the Argo owners would undoubtedly be asked to pay for that themselves, without the benefit of a sweetheart deal for the naming rights.

They could be forgiven for feeling that they've been outflanked, as so many have over the years, by those clever hockey/basketball/soccer guys down the street.

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Old December 13th, 2006, 03:10 AM   #107
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Cool...thanks. I feel they really picked some great colours for their kit. Speaking of colours the red stadium seats look great and, though vastly different, New Wembley has nice red seats as well.
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Wish you luck with your own Soccer Stadium.
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Old December 13th, 2006, 10:46 AM   #109
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Thanks - If they ever get building the damn thing - 2008?. Plus it might be ages before the Whitecaps get in MSL 'cause Lenarduzzi said that they will stay in the USL for the forseeable future which could be 2010 at the earliest.

Hey does the seating at BMO Field expand to 30k or more?
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Old December 13th, 2006, 04:03 PM   #110
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Hey does the seating at BMO Field expand to 30k or more?
yup.. it does expand to 30 000 (possibly more if needed in the future). The extra stands will be temporary and be set up for the 2007 FIFA U-21 World Cup.
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Yeah, I can see the north part being expanded:



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Old December 16th, 2006, 07:37 AM   #112
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... I've been looking at the two pictures for 10 minutes, please I give up, tell me what's the difference between the 2?...
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Wow sorry, I meant this:





The north is where the screen is.
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Old December 16th, 2006, 06:47 PM   #114
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Sorry to go off topic but when I saw this picture, the first thing I thought was how nice the Gardiner actually looks. Maybe from up close it isn't as hospitable (with the whole homeless people asking for change at red lights thing) but from this view it really looks great. I can't imagine the city without it.
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Old December 19th, 2006, 05:02 AM   #115
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What happened to the last "O"? Our name isn't Tor-nt F.C.
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It's under the cover. you can see it if you look carefully.
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No, not the yuppie seats, the last "O".
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Are there plans to expand this league to other Canadian cities?
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