Brutal New York - 1965/95

[Hadrami]

It was very brutal indeed

[JD47]

What was it like living in NYC back then? Was it as bad as it looks? I wonder if Manhattan was as expensive as it is now to live there. It looks depressing but that being said, anywhere can look depressing but turn out to be a great place to grow up.

[600West218]

Originally Posted by skyduster

As for city-vs-suburb, it's a false comparison.

There's both high-HDI and low-HDI areas in city centres, and there's both high-HDI and low-HDI in suburbs. And there's medium-HDI in both as well. This can be proven, again, by looking at the California closeup in the website I mentioned above.

The poor "inner city" is becoming a thing of the past, except perhaps in Detroit (whose metro you live in). Detroit seems to be stuck in the 1970s/80s, where you still have vast urban blight surrounding the downtown, and everyone from lower-middle-class and upwards, lives in the suburbs.

In NYC, and other cities including Chicago and Boston, the concept of a "poor inner city" no longer exists; former "inner city" areas have become completely gentrified, while the poor have been pushed further out, and even into the suburbs. In Washington, central areas are a mix of rich, poor, middle class...there is no central-peripheral pattern. In Los Angeles, the "poor inner city" never really existed; L.A.'s city centre is difficult to define, and most of its most notorious poorest areas (Watts, Compton, East L.A.) are actually peripheral, not central by any means. By the early 1990s, the term "inner city" became synonymous with urban blight. But by 2010-2012, that term has become a huge misnomer...which is why it's rarely ever used anymore.

And regardless of the socioeconomic variations within cities and metros...rural areas still come out at the bottom.

Thanks for a good laugh, though.

Epic fail. You should really learn something about places and read the statistics before mouthing off. Your own website completely contradicts you if you drill down to the zip code level.

And other web sites contradict you too.

http://proximityone.com/cd_income0910.htm

Look at the analysis of Congressional districs in NYS. The ones on Long Island have poverty rates of about 5% and per capita income in the 80 to 90k range.

By contrast, a number of Brooklyn, Bronx, and Queens districs have per capita income less than 40k to 50K and poverty rates of over 20%.

So yeah, the suburban urban thing is a myth

Oh, and I am sure people in Flint, Buffalo, Cleveland, Camden, St. Louis, New Orleans, etc would have have something to say about the "poor inner city" being a thing of the past.

[heatohio]

Cleveland is reversing that trend by the day. We have young professionals flocking in droves to the inner city. There is a real mix though. There are areas like Tremont, Ohio City and Detroit Shoreway that have half a million dollar houses and townhomes within a block of section 8. There are still very poor and run down areas of the inner city without question. But it's not what it was a decade ago.

[noikia2010]

Holly Molly. I heard that some areas in New York City where a dezaster from the '50's up to the '90's, but never thought that it was so bad.
Probably if it wouldn't had been a city infested with murder, in those day would have been a city to explore.

This topic makes me think of this song
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K64iJc0Iwfc

[Bogframe]

NYC in the 60s-the 90s was a classic example of Broken Window Syndrome. If you have an abandoned building, it will stay in the shap it was abandoned in until someone breaks a window. Once that happens, the others will get broken. I think around 1995, even the people in the most run-down neighborhoods had had enough and started fighting back by making things better on their own. NYC today is, by no means, a paradise, but it's come a long way in the last almost 20 years.

[Luis80]

These images are actually from the Movie Beat Street. Very good movie. Wild Style is also a good movie and has many scenes that show what the south Bronx was like 30 years ago. I watched both movies religously as a kid, still watch them from time to time, they are two of my favorite movies.

Originally Posted by desertpunk

The Bronx 1970s

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New York City Bronx 1970's by Photoscream, on Flickr

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New York City 1970's by Photoscream, on Flickr

[Luis80]

[desertpunk]

^
Cool!


Meatpacking District 1976

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14th Street Meat Packing 1976 by Eugene Gannon, on Flickr

[Bogframe]

Originally Posted by desertpunk

^
Cool!


Meatpacking District 1976

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14th Street Meat Packing 1976 by Eugene Gannon, on Flickr

And in the basement of that 5 story building, was The Hellfire Club!

[desertpunk]

[-:UberMann:-]

Those levels of cleanliness and decay remind me to our standards of today, in Mexico city.

[Irish Blood English Heart]

Fantastic thread, been reading the whole thing this morning, some of the pictures remind me of the very worst of Edinburgh or even more so Glasgow, with the broken tenaments, drugs everywhere and rubbish piling up. Of course far fewer guns over here (but the highest rates of knife murders in Europe). I guess the story of the city cleaning itself up and becoming an attractive place to live (and very much gentrified) could equally apply to Manchester or London.

Haven't been to NYC in 10 years+ but I think it's time I visited again.

[-:UberMann:-]

Here is an awesome HD video (1080p) from like 1995, New York

Part 1:
http://dl.demo-world.eu/download_hd....york.part1.rar
Part2:
http://dl.demo-world.eu/download_hd....york.part2.rar
Part3:
http://dl.demo-world.eu/download_hd....york.part3.rar

[CNB30]

Its amazing how fast NYC has changed.....for the better

[dexter2]

Originally Posted by -:UberMann:-

Here is an awesome HD video (1080p) from like 1995, New York

Part 1:
http://dl.demo-world.eu/download_hd....york.part1.rar
Part2:
http://dl.demo-world.eu/download_hd....york.part2.rar
Part3:
http://dl.demo-world.eu/download_hd....york.part3.rar

[CNB30]

Seems very brutal

[-:UberMann:-]

Good job! I was looking for that version of "Autumn in New York"

[LT1550]

It's unbelievable how scary New York looks in the 70s and 80s. Even at the very famous places in Manhattan. I'd also really like to experience that time period there, but only with protection

Today it's one of my favourite cities in the world...

[klipol1]