Brutal New York - 1965/95

[Taylorhoge]

Originally Posted by charmedone

i have to say its come a looong way but u can still find some of this in like the bronx

wow what a sterotype its not just the bronx

[koolkid]

Some parts of Brooklyn, anywhere else?

[eddie88]

amazing thread


it reminds me of this film i watched called nil by mouth, it showed the poverty in London during the 60s,70s and 80s.


chilling


but i think this was much much worse

[charmedone]

Originally Posted by Taylorhoge

wow what a sterotype its not just the bronx

well there also parts of Brooklyn as well

[bobbycuzin]

Originally Posted by charmedone

well there also parts of Brooklyn as well

what parts of brooklyn right now would you say that look like those pictures?

[koolkid]

I really don't know. How about East New York?

[bobbycuzin]

nah it's one of the less-attractive places in brooklyn right now, but nothing like those pictures

although some places like red hook, which are still fairly desolate but safe, could resemble the emptiness in the first few pictures

[koolkid]

Redhook does look shaby but that's becuase it was or is an industrial area. I went to Red Hook park during the summer to eat some latin american food. The area was a bit lonely but there were many families, friends and couples having a blast at the park. I didn't feel threatened at all.

[bobbycuzin]

yeah there's many similar places near the waterfront as well, but while looking just a tad bit further beyond the rubbage, you can also see luxury lofts being constructed lol

[Xelebes]

Wonderfully done, wonderfully done.

[go_leafs_go02]

absolutely shocking..and mindblowing...I had no idea.

Never been there, checked out a thread or two of today, and what a transformation. It reminds me of what I actually think of Mid-town NY. Clean, bright, safe, full of life.

Now..if only Detroit could see similar results.

[Zaqattaq]

Just stumbled upon this, the most incredible thread I have seen on SSC in my 3 years

[jessemh431]

I don't think any pics have moved me so much. I felt like I was looking at poverty in some African country or Germany after our troops came through. How did people live through that and how did NYC recover so quickly? I mean, after looking like that, I don't see how any city could recover. People were surprised when Los Angeles recoverd from our violence and drug propblems of the late 80's/early 90's, but I don't think I could ever find stuff as depressing as this. I almost cried while looking at the pics of the little kids, and especially reading about Barbara.

So, what was the best area of NYC at that time? Was it Midtown? Was that the main reason why the economy of NYC stayed stable enough to recover like it has?

What is the worst area now? It's not the Bronx anymore is it? I was reading somewhere that East Harlem and the area at the northern tip of Manhattan island are some of the worst areas. Is that true?

[vari k.]

New York was bad every says it...crime and so on, but those problems don't exist as much anymore. That's why everyone here loves Guliani, he completely changed the city in a short time

[bobbycuzin]

you're smoking crack if you think everyone in new york loves giuliani

Originally Posted by jessemh431

So, what was the best area of NYC at that time? Was it Midtown? Was that the main reason why the economy of NYC stayed stable enough to recover like it has?

What is the worst area now? It's not the Bronx anymore is it? I was reading somewhere that East Harlem and the area at the northern tip of Manhattan island are some of the worst areas. Is that true?

best area then was probably the richer areas of the upper-east side, worst area now is parts of central-east brooklyn and the bronx...the northern tip of manhattan (washington heights) was pretty bad during the early 90's (100 murders/year in just a regular sized neighborhood)

[decmetalhead]

Am I the only one who sorely misses the aesthetics of 'old' New York City (1960's-1990)? I find a strange, humbling beauty in these pictures (except the ones with the crack/dope addicts - they are depressing) But some of the photo's of the Bronx and Harlem are really nostalgic. Like it or lump it peoples, part of New York's identity back in the day was its Urban Decay. I think now with gentrification and what not, It's lost a bit of its identity. Now, Im not saying by any means that I wish these poor people still lived in these horrible, horrendously bad, poverty stricken conditions, but it would have been cool if the government left some of these south-bronx/central harlem areas intact. I get a great feeling of nostalgia when viewing these photo's (once again - the buildings, not the addicts) Does any one else feel my point of view?

[vari k.]

I get what you're saying, but the reason for that nostalgia is the movies that you watch lol

I really kind of like it too in a way, but i think the idea of it is more appealing...the photos are cool, not if the city was still actually like that

[bobbycuzin]

Originally Posted by vari karin

I get what you're saying, but the reason for that nostalgia is the movies that you watch lol

I really kind of like it too in a way, but i think the idea of it is more appealing...the photos are cool, not if the city was still actually like that

not necessarily, after living there during the late 80's-mid 90's and coming back to visit, you really feel the city is lacking something more than just the crime and decay of the past...as if the city is somewhat confused on what it wants to be

[decmetalhead]

It's lost its attitude, man! When I look at those pictures - they represent everything the big bad city stood for. Now, without its 'badass' appeal (which was characterised by its slumish-architecture in places like Harlem/Bronx ... and that famous New Yorker attitude ) It's just another big city. Oh well, I still love it to bits.

[bobbycuzin]

actually i was thinking the opposite...

those were the unpleasant aspects the city had to deal with, but it created a sense of sincerity and feeling that there really is a place for everyone in this city...that feeling no longer exists especially with the ridiculous increase in housing prices