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Old February 4th, 2010, 10:53 AM   #41
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I think the present mix of old and new in the City is OK. There are a lot of towers going up around St. Paul's but none are actually right next door and there is still a buffer zone away. Unless all new developments are pushed to Canary Wharf, I think the present arrangement is still acceptable, although the questions still should be asked.
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Old February 5th, 2010, 01:32 AM   #42
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If they are replacing old buildings with highrises then I can understand their concern. But if they are replacing ugly 60's buildings what is the issue? We can't stop progression to keep every good view around. Most of the towers get thinner as they go up anyways to avoid blocking many views so what is the real problem here?
For the most part, yes -- they usually replace ugly 60's buildings. But once in a while, they do demolish old buildings such as the following below:

This building has been approved for demolition:
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This facade has been demolished to incorporate a glass building:



Believe it or not, this building was proposed to be demolished. But, the Crown Estates backed out after protests.



They've also demolished whole blocks of old Victorian buildings to make way for Crossrail:


This building was demolished in the early 90s:



The sad part is that in the future, they will blame WWII for all these demolitions, just to cover up the fact that they have been demolishing old historic buildings decades after the war. They will be like "oh, this building replaced a post-war building" because people wouldn't know any better.

And the saddest part is, despite all these demotions, London will still lag behind Paris in terms of economic output (GDP).
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Old February 5th, 2010, 01:55 AM   #43
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I've just found out that these two buildings below have been given approval for demolition:

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See what I mean folks? It's not just 60's buildings that get demolished. Perfectly fine Victorian buildings are also being targeted by developers.
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Old February 5th, 2010, 03:31 PM   #44
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So sad, same thing is happening in our country.
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So sad, same thing is happening in our country.
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Old January 7th, 2011, 09:56 AM   #46
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Also related to the modernist theme vs. historic London :

Prince Charles accused of persuading Emir of Qatar to scrap project
19 May 2010
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One of London's leading property developers told a court Tuesday he believed Britain's Prince Charles persuaded the Emir of Qatar to block Britain's most expensive housing project.

Christian Candy is suing his Qatari partners in the prestigious Chelsea Barracks scheme in central London for 81 million pounds (116 million dollars, 95 million euros) for breach of contract.

Candy said in evidence to a High Court judge that he found out in March last year that Prince Charles had written a letter criticising the plans by leading architect Richard Rogers, best known for the iconic Pompidou Centre in Paris.

The heir to the British throne is an outspoken critic of much modern architecture and his traditionalist views have drawn criticism from architects and academics.

Candy said it was following a meeting with the prince that the Emir of Qatar had decided the planning application for the modernist scheme for 650 flats must be withdrawn.

Jeremy Titchen, of development company Qatari Diar (QD), was alleged to have said to Candy's colleague that when the emir was in the UK, the Prince of Wales spoke to him about "how awful the scheme was."

"The emir then went mental at Ghanim (bin Saad al Saad, managing director of Qatari Diar) telling him how awful the design was, and that they must withdraw as soon as possible."

Candy, who owns CPC Group, the other main company in the development consortium, is claiming the Qatari partners in the project withdrew the planning application in breach of their contract.

In his evidence, Candy said: "It was only the intervention of His Royal Highness the Prince of Wales that put the planning application in any conceivable doubt."

He added that he believes the planning application would have succeeded "if QD stood wholeheartedly behind it."

The site, in one of London's most expensive residential areas, was sold by the Ministry of Defence for 959 million pounds to the consortium now battling in the High Court.

The hearing is expected to last two weeks.
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Old January 7th, 2011, 11:50 AM   #47
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Not that the tower of London is this great beauty...
And thinking that the kings of Engalnd lived there...they must have been dirt poor...
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The Shard, Europe's tallest building, launched amid debate
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Europe's tallest skyscraper the Shard was inaugurated in London on Thursday in a dazzling sound and light show befitting its status as the capital's brashest and most controversial building.

Thousands of Londoners gathered at vantage points around the city and lined the River Thames to take in the show, but the structure has been the source of heated debate during its gradual rise above capital's skyline.

Twelve lasers and 30 searchlights lit up the night sky from the dramatic glass and steel structure -- which stands 310 metres (1,017 feet) tall -- connecting it to other London landmarks as the London Philharmonic Orchestra provided the soundtrack.

The building was earlier officially launched by Qatari Prime Minister Hamad bin Jassem al-Thani, whose country funded the building, and Queen Elizabeth II's son Prince Andrew.

Prince Andrew said he hoped the building would give the local area "a huge new boost" during the formal ceremony.

London mayor Boris Johnson sang the Shard's praises, calling it "a quite astonishing piece of architecture".

"Of course it's not like any piece of architecture in the city at the moment, but that's the whole point about London," Johnson told BBC radio.

But in a nod to Londoners' split opinions on the building, he added: "I think it is important that we do not pepper-pot the city with skyscrapers everywhere. There's got to be control."

The Shard's inauguration marks the completion of the exterior of the building, located on the south bank of the River Thames at London Bridge, while work on the inside is expected to continue into 2013.

The skyscraper, whose name was coined by its Italian architect Renzo Piano, is still significantly shorter than Dubai's 828-metre Burj Khalifa, the tallest building in the world.

It takes over from Capital City Moscow Tower as the highest in Europe.

The 95-floor building has a glass facade covering the equivalent of eight football pitches, while the volume of concrete used in its construction could fill 22 Olympic-sized swimming pools.

It has capacity for 12,000 people and will contain a five-star hotel, 600,000 square metres (6.5 million square feet) of office space, luxury restaurants and shops.

The jagged-tipped skyscraper will also house 10 apartments, reportedly costing up to £50 million ($78 million, 62 million euros) each, which on floors 53 to 65 will be the highest residential properties in Britain.

Developer Sellar Property said it hopes the Shard's viewing decks, offering 360-degree panoramas, will become a major tourist attraction.

"It will become as essential a part of a visit to London as going to the top of the Empire State Building is for visitors to New York," said company chairman Irvine Sellar.

The building will open as a tourist attraction in February and more than 17,500 people have already registered interest online. Advance tickets are available from Friday.

The £450 million ($705.4 million, 560.70 million euro) project was 95 percent funded by Qatar.

The tiny oil-rich Gulf state has a growing London property portfolio that also includes Harrods department store and the Olympic Village.

But the building's futuristic silhouette has angered traditionalists who say it has dwarfed older landmarks such as St Paul's Cathedral and the Houses of Parliament.

English Heritage, the body responsible for protecting historic sites, says the skyscraper mars a view of St Paul's, while UNESCO has said it compromises the "visual integrity" of the Tower of London, a World Heritage site.

One commentator compared the Shard's impact on the skyline to the recent destruction of ancient shrines in Timbuktu in Mali.

"Timbuktu's shrines can and surely will be rebuilt," Simon Jenkins wrote in the Guardian on Wednesday. "The Shard has slashed the face of London for ever."

Piano, who also had a hand in the design of the Pompidou Centre in Paris, has defended the building against claims it is an overbearing presence on the skyline.

"This building is not arrogant," he told AFP in February.

"When you're making a building like this, that's so important for the city, you have to be absolutely sure that it's the right thing to do... as an architect, if you make a mistake it stays there for a long time."
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