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Old May 22nd, 2009, 08:57 PM   #81
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I think these suckers would be awesome, if they were installed everywhere:

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Old May 22nd, 2009, 08:59 PM   #82
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I think these suckers would be awesome, if they were installed everywhere:

Yep, interesting alternative
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Old May 22nd, 2009, 09:46 PM   #83
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That's not entirely true, in Belgium, virtually all motorways are lit, even the rural ones. In the Netherlands, only the Randstad motorways plus a couple of other locations are lit at night.

As far as I know, there is only one motorway in NL that has 2x3 lanes, and is not lit at night; the A12 near Arnhem.
The Netherlands is bigger and it has more motorways than Belgium has. So in total there are more motorway lights and a bigger waste of energy

Those reflector things are a great alternative indeed
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Old May 22nd, 2009, 10:46 PM   #84
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I think these suckers would be awesome, if they were installed everywhere:

The only problem is that after a couple of years, they're useless.
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Old May 22nd, 2009, 11:20 PM   #85
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Those reflectors are all over the roads here, they are white for the direction you are going and red on the opposite side of the road or wrong way. In areas that get snow those reflectors get scraped right off by snow plows.
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Old May 22nd, 2009, 11:33 PM   #86
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maybe the paint they use should have light-reflecting qualities
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Old May 23rd, 2009, 03:56 PM   #87
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They are already used in many European tunnels and viaducts.
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True, but only in parts of the country where are almost no inhabitants. Like the mountains or parts with a lot of forests. You won't see those reflectors in urban area's except for tunnels.
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If I'm not mistaken, these reflectors are extensively used in areas of Spain that don't get any snow. Especially on autopistas.
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I saw a lot of them in Ireland, where they almost don't have streetlights.
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Old May 25th, 2009, 12:51 AM   #91
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Streetlights – Oh, I like streetlights on the motorways! I find these a fantastic thing. When you travelling on the motorways at night time, with streetlights on, it brighten up the motorways.

In UK, several routes of motorways have streetlights. Some of motorways have lots of miles with streetlights on, such as M1, London towards Junction 19 (Spur of M6/M1 junction) - around 75 miles (120 km) of continue streetlights on that M1 motorway. But not just that, some miles after Junction 19, to the North, there are yet MORE streetlights on M1, in the North!

Some can be countuine for ten's of miles e.g 20 / 30 / 40 / 50 miles etc, like M25 motorway.

If you drive on some busier motorways from A2(M), to M25, then M1 and so on... and you will see the streetlights on these motorways can be continue as long as over 120 miles (195 km) !!!

Where there are 4 x 4 lanes motorways, it is compulsory to install streetlights on these wider motorways for safety reasons. It is very rare to see 4 x 4 lanes motorways that have NO streetlights. Of course, there are several busier 2 x 2 lanes & 3 x 3 lanes motorways have streetlights on. This applies to several dual carriageways from 2 x 2 lanes to 4 x 4 lanes too.

Not so long ago, these streetlight on motorways used to be "good-old British-style" orange lights but sadly, steady phased out to make way for newer brighter peach lights.

I prefer orange lights like Belgium motorways.

I think Britain is the 1st worst light pollution in Europe. Belgium is the 2nd worst light pollution in the Europe. 3rd is The Netherlands.

Reflectors – Ah! In here, we called these reflectors as "Cat's eyes"! For more info about this Cat's Eyes:- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cat%27s_eye_(road)

All of British main roads, dual carriageways and motorways have the cat's eyes studs on. Rural / country roads do not have cat's eyes on.

Recently, we have started to used newer type of cat's eyes for roads and cycle paths like in Cambridge, they started to use new cat's eyes for cycle paths outside the city. Website:- www.astucia.co.uk
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Old May 25th, 2009, 02:10 AM   #92
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I support German model regarding motorway lighting. I don't think street lights are really needed.
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Old May 26th, 2009, 01:46 AM   #93
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Btw. Norway has no nuclear power, so this is not the reason why we have lightpoles on all our motorways. We do have very cheap waterpower tough, and our motorway-network isn't exactly huge.
It is true that our motorway-network is small, but we also have a lot of other rural highways that are illuminated. For instance, you can drive from Halden via Oslo along the coast through most of Vest-Agder (I.e. west of Kristiansand some 500 km away), and the whole way will be illuminated. Compare with the many km we have with urban streets, the illuminated motorways probably don't matter so much energy wise. Personally, I prefer lights on motorways if there are no blinds to block the headlight from traffic on the other side of the fence. On heavily trafficated two-lane roads they are however more useful, especially when it is raining.
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Old May 26th, 2009, 02:27 AM   #94
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I support German model regarding motorway lighting. I don't think street lights are really needed.
I'm from germany and it's very uncomfortable to drive on the Autobahn at night without street lights. You cannot drive with high beam as there's always traffic on the other side of the road. So you have to dive 100 km/h all the time and can't drive faster. I think streetlights would be very comfortable. At the moment, only a few ten kilomneters are illuminated at nights, all urban autobahns.


An example is the A3 at Frankfurt Airport or the A7 north of the Elbtunnel in Hamburg.

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You cannot drive with high beam as there's always traffic on the other side of the road. So you have to dive 100 km/h all the time and can't drive faster.
100 km/h is ridiculous. Majority of European motorways are not illuminated at night and people drive comfortably at 130 km/h. I almost always drive thru Germany at night and I can easily drive with whatever speed I want without street lighting.
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Old September 26th, 2009, 08:44 PM   #96
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Street lights

Show street lights from your country here.
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Old September 27th, 2009, 10:43 PM   #97
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I opened a thread like this a while ago:
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=445388

By the way, I like your nickname
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Old September 28th, 2009, 12:58 AM   #98
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street lights and traffic lights are different!!!!!!

btw, here's some from Minneapolis, in the US of A:
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Old September 28th, 2009, 11:28 AM   #99
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Old September 28th, 2009, 01:01 PM   #100
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I like these ones in Zaragoza, Spain

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