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Old November 25th, 2006, 02:59 PM   #61
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and in wikipedia, greater tokyo area's pop is 35 mil
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Old November 26th, 2006, 01:20 AM   #62
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Cape Town, Johannesburg, Durban, and Pretoria lack underground metro systems.

Johannesburg would definitely have one if it were not for the city's mine dumps history and fast growth. Those two factors made it a no-go, but... wow... a metro system underground would add a whole other element to that city
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Old November 28th, 2006, 01:52 AM   #63
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Not true a subway in the UK is a pedestrian walkway under roads.

The Underground refers to what the rest of the world calls a subway or metro.
That was exactly what I said in my post.

And as the last systems prove , a "metro" is ultimately an urban mass transit system .. .and nowadays we can't separate a metro.BUS from a ligth.rail.on.tube from the "classic" metro concept anymore as every possibility has been explored to create a "urban mass transit system".
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Old December 2nd, 2006, 07:49 PM   #64
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UK cities without Metro's

....and the poor old UK doesnt fare too well on an international scale either.

Outside London the only two cities who's rail transport systems qualify in the strictest sense of the word for "metros" are the Glasgow Subway (http://www.spt.co.uk/subway/) and the Newcastle Metro (http://www.nexus.org.uk/wps/wcm/connect/Nexus/Metro).

That leaves the West Midlands (2.55million, centered round Birmingham) without a genuine metro system (the "Metro" is a modern light rail tram with a "metro-like" service http://www.centro.org.uk/Metro/Nov%2003/index.asp but sadly no underground bits)

And Greater Manchester (2.48million) which also doesn't really have an underground system (although again the modern light rail trams provide a "metro-like" service http://www.metrolink.co.uk/ and is finally going to be expanded. It has no underground stations although one station has an underground appearance because it lies beneath the main rail station and there are several sections in tunnells)

West Yorkshire (2.07million centered round Leeds) has nothing but busses (and suburban rail, interestingly also branded "Metro" as an ettempt to make it seem credible!) http://www.wymetro.com/TrainTravel/

Merseyside (1.3million centred round Liverpool) has a suburban heavy rail system which has 6 underground stations (http://www.merseyrail.org/#) - again this is not really a genuine Metro in the true sense of the word described above in other posts.

Places like Bristol (380,615), Cardiff (305,353) Leicester (279,921) and Brighton/Hove (247,817) dont even have a tram in sight

So all in all Britain sadly fares pretty badly compared to provincial cities in Germany, France, Spain, Italy............. should I go on?

Population figures from UK Census website (http://www.statistics.gov.uk/census2...s/pages/uk.asp)
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Old December 2nd, 2006, 09:01 PM   #65
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In Holland the biggest city without a metro is The Hague. However, that city hasn't even got half a million inhabitants...
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Old December 2nd, 2006, 09:32 PM   #66
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Just to add to the discussion on metros/subways in India's cities..

New Delhi
Population: 12 mn
Present metro network: 65 km
Investment: $2 bn
Future plan: 120 km by 2010, additional investment of $2 bn

Mumbai
Population: 13 mn
Current status: Metro construction to begin late 2006/early 2007
Future plan: 63 km by 2011 (phase 1), 146 km by 2021.
Investment: $5 bn

Bangalore
Population: 7 mn
Current status: Metro construction to begin late 2006/early 2007
Future plan: 33 km by 2009.
Investment: $1.5 bn

Hyderabad
Population: 5 mn
Current status: Project to be awarded in 2007
Future plan: 65 km probably by 2010-11
Investment: $2 bn

Incidentally, the above 4 cities are also building new modern airports with phase-1 to be completed by 2008-2010. The completion of all phases involves multi-billion dollar investments.

India's weakest link, infrastructure, is finally getting serious investments led by the enterpreneurial private sector. It is absolutely critical to help sustain and accelerate the 9.1% growth rate for the first 9 months of 2006.
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Old December 2nd, 2006, 11:44 PM   #67
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If you count LRT, Id say in the US I think it would be San Antonio. just the city proper is over a million and makes the top ten list, but no rail in sight.

However, as far as metro area populations though im pretty sure San antonio is smaller than detroit
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Old December 4th, 2006, 02:21 AM   #68
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Bangkok, Thailand

Bangkok has more than 6.5 million people.. There are two transit systems (skyway - since 1999 and underground since 2002) in downtown of Bangkok only. Both, skyway (BTS) is on dark and light green and underground (MRT) are in operation. Foremore, Thai transit systems will expand to urban and new international airport. Also, its system will have high speed rail to / from the airport to downtown by using (red and pink line). This is still in progressing to build and will be finished by 2008. Other different color lines will be added and finished by before 2015 or 2020

Look at map of the future mass transit in Bangkok

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Old December 4th, 2006, 02:34 AM   #69
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Thailand

Regarding to Thai transit, light Pink line is for high speed rail and express to or from the new international airport to downtown by 15 mins. The new airport already has started service since Sept, but no high speed rail (light pink) yet. Dark Pink is for local area to airport from downtown about 28 to 30 mins. These are still under construction. It will be done by the year of 2008.

Also, both light and dark green line (BTS) is going to expand to urban from downtown. Blue (underground -subway) will expand round into bangkok will be finished by between 2010 to 2012. Thai government have already approved its system start to build 5 different color lines since October.
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Old December 4th, 2006, 02:43 AM   #70
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Current BKK Transit Map

For the nearly future, it will have light pink and dark pink and red lines will be added soon. Also, current both green and blue is going to be expand routes to urban soon!! I don't know when other color lines will be added yet...

Current Bangkok Transit Map below!

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Old December 4th, 2006, 02:56 AM   #71
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Chongqing (30+ mill. in municipality, ~4 mill. in city proper and Wuhan (9 mill., 5 mill.) are two examples of huge cities without metro. Both have monorail lines though. While WH has already started constructing a metro system recently I guess CQ might remain as one of the world큦 biggest city without metro because of it큦 geological situation (mountains and rock everywhere) and therefore relie on expanding its큖levated monorail system. (correct me if i am wrong here)
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Old December 4th, 2006, 05:48 AM   #72
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and in wikipedia, greater tokyo area's pop is 35 mil
38 millions now!
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Old December 5th, 2006, 04:32 AM   #73
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from the 1st world

all australian cities you can name
calgary, vancouver, edmonton

3rd world

lima 9 million
bogota 7.5 million
johannesburg 7 million
cape town 4 million
guatemala city 3 million
cali 4 million?
medellin 4 million?

and the african cities, which, i don큧 personally think could ever have a metro system in a close future (80 years from now)
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Old December 5th, 2006, 01:10 PM   #74
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Cairo already has a subway network. Tunis is building one - the same goes for Algiers.

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Old December 5th, 2006, 03:49 PM   #75
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Lagos,Nigeria is currently building an LRT please visit this link
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Old December 5th, 2006, 04:51 PM   #76
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from the 1st world

all australian cities you can name
calgary, vancouver, edmonton

3rd world

lima 9 million
bogota 7.5 million
johannesburg 7 million
cape town 4 million
guatemala city 3 million
cali 4 million?
medellin 4 million?

and the african cities, which, i don큧 personally think could ever have a metro system in a close future (80 years from now)
hater, we will build one, you europeans haters who are trying to keep africa at the bottom, ohhhhhhh you mad beacuse asia is taking your spot oh no.no.
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Old December 5th, 2006, 05:00 PM   #77
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i think, Jakarta ist the biggest city without an MTR. Jakarta has a pop about 16 mil
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Old December 5th, 2006, 10:46 PM   #78
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medellin 4 million?
Medelln has a metro system:
2 lines
25 stations
28,8 kms
300,000 daily passengers

Check this link

http://www.metrodemedellin.org.co/portal/
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Old December 6th, 2006, 10:17 AM   #79
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The metro in Oslo must be one of the biggest systems in one of worlds smallest capitals. In Oslo there are about 540 000 citizens.


Majorstuen station.


Frognerseteren. Line 1 goes here. This station is about 500m above the sealevel.


map of metro system in Oslo.
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Old December 8th, 2006, 01:42 PM   #80
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i think, Jakarta ist the biggest city without an MTR. Jakarta has a pop about 16 mil
yep.. but now the monorail project is u/c, and the mrt project is on hold. the monorail will be completed at 2007-2008 and the mrt is in 2012..
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