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Old January 15th, 2007, 02:24 PM   #101
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and the african cities, which, i don´t personally think could ever have a metro system in a close future
Stange words, I take it that you have never been to any part of Africa. Well for your information, two cities in Nigeria have already commenced the construction of Light Railway Transit Lemna Corporation Also Cairo in Egypt has an underground system, so does Tunis in Tunisia.
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Old January 15th, 2007, 07:35 PM   #102
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Full metro only in Cairo (Egypt). Tunis has got a tramway system.
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Yo si la ciudad no tiene metro, como que no es gran ciudad y entonces ya paso de vivir allí. Norreport+12000
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Old January 15th, 2007, 07:41 PM   #103
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But Alger will have a full subway
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Old January 16th, 2007, 04:09 AM   #104
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Yes, but it is not ready yet, it is under construction.

And some projects for Alexandria, Egypt.
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Old January 24th, 2007, 04:54 PM   #105
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this cities need metro or subway:


in Latin America:

Puebla
Guatemala City
San Salvador
Tegucigalpa
Managua
San José
Panama City
Bogotá
Cali
Guayaquil
Quito
Lima
Arequipa
Rosario
Cordoba
Salvador
La Habana




Europe:

Dulin
Manchester
Birminhgam
Liverpool
Zagreb
Belgrade
Vilnous
Malmo
Toulouse



Asia:

Tel Aviv
Beirut
Riyadh
Dubai
Kuwait City
Esfahan
Karachi
Lahore
Almaty
Bangalore
Jaipur
Lucknow
Dhaka
Chittatong
Ho Chi Minh City
Hanoi
Yakarta
Surabaya
Medan
Bandung
Cebu
Chengdu
Dalian
Fuzhou
Hangzhou
Qingdao
Kaohsiung


Africa:

Algiers
Casablanca
Rabat
Trípoli
Lagos
Johannesburg
Cape Town
Durban
Nairobi
Kinshasa
Harare
Dakar
Dar Es-Saalam



Oceania:

Brisbane
Perth
Adelaida
Auckland.




Riga....

Population in city 750 000 people,
Metro area about 1 mio.

This transport for Riga is the only solution for sure, but not really plans today...
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Old April 2nd, 2007, 09:56 AM   #106
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Panama City, Panama (Pop. 1,063,000) has no metro/subway system, but rumor has it that one's in the planning stages...
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Old April 2nd, 2007, 10:06 AM   #107
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Sydney doesn't have a metro but it has an extensive suburban railway system with most lines converging in the city to dive underneath the innercity in a loop. The Eastern Suburbs Railway line is the closest Sydney has to a metro line with 10-12 minute frequencies and 6 underground stations and 2 viaducts.

Melbourne also has an extensive suburban railway network and all lines converge on the city in the form of an underground loop but Melbourne also has the world's third most extensive tram/lightrail system which cancels out the need of a metro in Melbourne.

Sydney definitely needs a metro on top of new suburban lines. A new harbourcrossing is going to be built within the next 20 years.

Sydney pop = 4.3 million
Melbourne pop = 3.6
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Old April 2nd, 2007, 10:32 AM   #108
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...................
Oceania:

Brisbane
Perth
Adelaida
Auckland.
Depend how you define a Metro System. Perth has quite an extensive electric rail network which operates usually with 15 min headways and more frequently during morning and evening peaks period. Not bad for a city of 1.4 million!

Perth is building a new railway to the South (Mandurah) which should be operational by late July. Latest development news here http://www.newmetrorail.wa.gov.au
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Old April 3rd, 2007, 07:42 AM   #109
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Edmonton built its LRT with a metro population of 500 000 (city ~400 000). The metro pop. is now over 1 million. Calgary's metro had a slightly smaller population but it right after Edmonton's LRT. The C-Train is now the heaviest used LRT system in North America, having a current metro population around 1 million (now slightly larger than Edmonton.)

Winnipeg and Quebec City (~750 000) is considering building one and Halifax (~350 000) is also considering it.
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Old April 3rd, 2007, 01:48 PM   #110
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Mirandela in northern Portugal has a company called "Metro de mirandela" , it's a town of about 5.000 (?) people.

It's segregated rail , has a tunnel , runs entirely inside the town (4.1km) and has 4 (?) stations ... its a metre gauge diesel metro system.

http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/pt/.../9500/pix.html
Metro de Mirandela are the green ones ... and yess .. .tecnivaly it's a metro system even on timetables.
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Old April 3rd, 2007, 01:58 PM   #111
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It's segregated rail...
Is it...or...IS IT NOT???



Looks like a street crossing to me, doesn't it?
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Old April 3rd, 2007, 02:01 PM   #112
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Is it...or...IS IT NOT???



Looks like a street crossing to me, doesn't it?
The Porto Metro does that too...
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Old April 3rd, 2007, 02:09 PM   #113
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But Porto Metro is not a subway, it is a light rail or a premetro.
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Old April 3rd, 2007, 02:11 PM   #114
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That's why Porto doesn't have a metro - but a tram that goed underground in the city center instead. Comparable to many 'Stadtbahn' systems in Germany, like the ones in Dortmund, Cologne or Frankfurt. Those systems have segregated, underground sections in the center and on-street sections with level crossings in the surrounding areas.
And yes: I know it's called Porto Metro - but that's just nomenclature that's been chosen from a marketing pov. If you'd tell people long enough that a chicken egg is really an elephant's egg, they'll eventually start believing you...
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Old April 3rd, 2007, 02:19 PM   #115
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Catania has a metro system and is a quite small city!
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Old April 3rd, 2007, 02:23 PM   #116
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Sorry, Rennes (215.000) is smaller. By the way: Lausanne (125.000!) will be the smallest by 2008, when the new m2 VAL opens.
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Yes but Rennes plan its second line

and M2 in Lausanne is not a VAL.
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Old April 3rd, 2007, 02:59 PM   #118
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Even if they planned ten new lines - Rennes is still larger than Lausanne...

And yes, m2 is a VAL (they just don't call it that).
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No it is not a VAL

From Wikipedia

The automatic trains on line 14 of the Paris Métro are not VAL, but they use part of the VAL technology. Siemens (the company that acquired Matra) is going to transform line 1 of the Paris Métro into an automatic system like line 14. Lyon's metro line D is a larger metro on metal wheels; it was originally developed independently but ended up incorporating some components of VAL technology.

The subway of Lausanne (new m2 line) uses a shortened version of the trains used on line 14, with only two cars per train.
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The automatic trains on line 14 of the Paris Métro are not VAL, but they use part of the VAL technology.
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