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Old November 5th, 2010, 06:48 AM   #2681
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Totally..

Hey, it's true that the base is going to be a high school? that's kinda out of context
The base contains a public school which will occupy 100,000 square feet. Another 21,000 sq ft will be devoted to hospital space (offices, ambulance center). I believe there will also be some small space devoted to retail (coffeeshop sized).

Over $200 million of the tower is financed by Liberty Bonds. So its appropriate that some of the building is utlizied by the public.
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Old November 5th, 2010, 09:15 AM   #2682
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Beekman Place is a small street located on the east side of Manhattan, New York City. The street runs from north to south for approximately two blocks and is situated between the eastern end of 51st and 49th streets. Beekman Place is also used to refer to the residential neighborhood that surrounds the street itself. It is named after the Beekman family, an influential family in the development of the city. The neighborhood was the site of the Beekman family mansion, Mount Pleasant, which was built by James Beekman in 1765. James Beekman was a descendant of Willem Beeckman for whom Beekman Street was named.
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Old November 5th, 2010, 06:53 PM   #2683
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ok, what do you 2 think they should have done with the top, instead leaving it flat?
No spire! Maybe make one tower taller than the other. It just looks weird cut off like that.
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Old November 5th, 2010, 07:06 PM   #2684
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i'm telling you, the beekman still has that effect to look taller than it actually is. it's quite funny that people who have seen beekman in person (including me) think it could be easily a supertall, especially when viewing upwards the flat side.
I find it very hard to believe that three mechanical floors rise only 20 feet above the highest occupied floor. I would be stunned if this building is not at least 900 feet regardless of what was posted earlier.
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Old November 5th, 2010, 08:00 PM   #2685
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I find it very hard to believe that three mechanical floors rise only 20 feet above the highest occupied floor. I would be stunned if this building is not at least 900 feet regardless of what was posted earlier.
Vito C reported the highest floor is 827 feet, the top of the parapet as 867 feet. So the mechanicals rise about 40 feet, not 20.
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Vito C reported the highest floor is 827 feet, the top of the parapet as 867 feet. So the mechanicals rise about 40 feet, not 20.
I stated that my impression was notwithstanding the prior posts (i.e., Vito C's). The highest occupied floor, as per the DOB, is on record at 875. There is at least 30 feet of mechanicals in the top three floors. Therefore, this tower must be at least 900 feet.
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Old November 5th, 2010, 09:09 PM   #2687
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I stated that my impression was notwithstanding the prior posts (i.e., Vito C's). The highest occupied floor, as per the DOB, is on record at 875. There is at least 30 feet of mechanicals in the top three floors. Therefore, this tower must be at least 900 feet.
where do you get those numbers (height, floors etc.). somehow i can't find them... http://a810-bisweb.nyc.gov/bisweb/Pr...6BD08866A7430E
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Old November 5th, 2010, 09:29 PM   #2688
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I'm sure I've already had this conversation with you before "dnobsemajdnob/R.W.".

So I'll just quit now and save us both a lot of aggravation.
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where do you get those numbers (height, floors etc.). somehow i can't find them... http://a810-bisweb.nyc.gov/bisweb/Pr...6BD08866A7430E
The highest occupied floor, as per the New Building application filed with the DOB, is 867 feet. (See the link below.)

There is no conceivable way that three floors of mechanicals occupy less than 30 feet in total, which would mean a height to the roof of 897 feet. In all likelihood, 3 floors of mechanicals probably rise about 40 to 45 feet above the highest occupied floor, which would result in a roof height of 907 to 912 feet.

http://a810-bisweb.nyc.gov/bisweb/Jo...ssdocnumber=01

Similarly, Carnegie 57's highest occupied floor, as per the NB App. filed with the DOB, is 953 feet -- yet the mechanical floors add another 52 feet for a total height of 1,005 feet.
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Old November 6th, 2010, 02:52 PM   #2690
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ok that's really strange, indeed the DOB says "Building Height (ft.): 867". and speaking from experience (as in the case of carnegie 57) this height is always to the highest occupied floor. well we have CTBUH (and Vito C) versus DOB lol. i guess it's a tie.
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ok that's really strange, indeed the DOB says "Building Height (ft.): 867". and speaking from experience (as in the case of carnegie 57) this height is always to the highest occupied floor. well we have CTBUH (and Vito C) versus DOB lol. i guess it's a tie.
Buildings MUST comply with what's on file with the DOB, and the highest occupied floor, as per the DOB, is 867 feet.
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Old November 8th, 2010, 10:56 PM   #2692
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ok that's really strange, indeed the DOB says "Building Height (ft.): 867". and speaking from experience (as in the case of carnegie 57) this height is always to the highest occupied floor. well we have CTBUH (and Vito C) versus DOB lol. i guess it's a tie.
Wanna bet who will win?
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Old November 9th, 2010, 03:18 AM   #2694
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Me! Me!

I'm in a competition on SSC!!! This is exciting!!!

I'm going to scale down the side of the tower with a tape measure next Saturday to prove the DOB figures!!!
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Old November 9th, 2010, 04:36 AM   #2695
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Me! Me!

I'm in a competition on SSC!!! This is exciting!!!

I'm going to scale down the side of the tower with a tape measure next Saturday to prove the DOB figures!!!
Yeah baby...go for it!:
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I'll be wearing a cape and goggles!!!
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Old November 9th, 2010, 04:53 AM   #2697
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I'll be wearing a cape and goggles!!!
I'll let you in on a little secret: I'm holding pocket aces.
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I'll let you in on a little secret: I'm holding pocket aces.
Me too. I have a copy of the schematics, but I can't post them or discuss them because I signed a Nondisclosure Agreement.
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Old November 9th, 2010, 05:10 AM   #2699
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Me too. I have a copy of the schematics, but I can't post them or discuss them because I signed a Nondisclosure Agreement.
Excellent...I'm all in!
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