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Old December 2nd, 2008, 08:22 AM   #301
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If there is something that I like about cities, are their contrasts...not all of them, of course. But in this case I'm very happy Beekman Place is been built.
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Old December 2nd, 2008, 11:17 PM   #302
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I think it would be cool if they made a glass and stone gothic style supertall.
Actually I've thought about that too. Although maybe they should use a more modern and "shiny" material than stone, but still keep the old art deco style. Would be a nice experiment.
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Old December 3rd, 2008, 02:04 AM   #303
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New York would look BORING if every single building looked like that.

How ironic that you are calling the Beekman tower "boring"
You're wrong, although I do agree that the Beekman Tower is quite an eccentric tower, it would be amazing if New York builds a Gothic supertall.
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Old December 3rd, 2008, 04:37 AM   #304
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I'd say Tower Verre is kinda gothic in its own little way. It aint getting built today or tommorow but I think most of us will/can agree its pretty darned gothic-esque?. I wanna see another classic (Art Deco) super-tall go up in our time, Storms, but I doubt very much so that's going to happen. Buildings like the Woolworth come at a hefty cost nowadays. I doubt we will be seeing anything as close to it as 99 church and 15 CPW. That seems to be as good as it gets as far as coming close to the classic skyscrapers of the 20's & 30's.

I like Beekman. I can't wait to say "Gehry pulls it off" but I'll wait for the facade treatment. So far......so good.
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Old December 3rd, 2008, 05:40 AM   #305
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I think it'll be fine from a distance, especially. It conforms pretty well to downtown in shape, and has some real interest up close without being totally psychotic like some of his other designs.

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Bland & uncreative. Look at the gothic style masterpiece next to it. Now THAT is a building!

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Old December 3rd, 2008, 05:51 AM   #306
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Very nice addition. A gothic supertall would be amazing.
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Old December 3rd, 2008, 07:15 AM   #307
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Very nice addition. A gothic supertall would be amazing.
Modernism/International style is the closest thing to gothic (supposedly), with less emphasis on the supports themselves as the interior spaces created.

And I don't think it would be appropriate to build a gothic-esque supertall now. The style is no longer relevant or practical.

Tribune Tower and the Woolworth are the best two...
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Old December 3rd, 2008, 08:11 PM   #308
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They didn't call NYC Gotham for nothing. But that time is up. We should live in the now and die in the future. I like that much better it goes with the gothic tone.
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Old December 4th, 2008, 06:27 AM   #309
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we live in the now and look forward to the future. Thats just how it goes... chronologically .
I think when Beekman, 56 Leanord, 99 Church, and all of the new wtc come into their own--that they will make their mark (no matter how ppl feel about them) they're going to be there and they will be in view. They will become the image of NY with all the other scrapers built through time. They, the developers, the architects, the styles, will just be making their notch on the totem pole..like Empre State and Chrysler did.

Time will tell how these new towers of lower Manhattan work out .
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Old December 4th, 2008, 11:10 PM   #310
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I know how it goes. I wrote looks to the future and decided to change it to now. I guest I forgot to get ride of the look forward part what can you do. Wait I can fix it.
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Old December 6th, 2008, 02:15 AM   #311
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One more floor added

I think this building beautiful!
Beautiful design, beautiful lines and impressive height.
It really goes fast construccion.El the skyline of New York is going to be impressive, and indeed already is.
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Old December 7th, 2008, 07:28 AM   #312
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the red brick of the base is starting to be put on fyi
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Old December 12th, 2008, 07:08 PM   #313
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i just honestly don't know about this. Of course its a typical gehry building (which leaves room for complaint obviously) but I think this could be one of his failures...why, because looking at the renderings, Gehry has somehow made something sleek like stainless steel look very dense and just an overall heavy looking building. Also, will it stay shiny like the renderings or will this be a disney concert hall situation where it will all have to be sand blasted because of the glare?!?!?! which will only increase the massiveness of the structure!!!!

What I do love about this is the other typical Gehry thing and that's pushing the materials to the limits. I would actually love to see some of the detail drawings of the sharp extrusions down the facade.
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Old December 14th, 2008, 01:19 AM   #315
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Wow, I missed this one. And thats almost impossible, cause I really like this well fitting beauty.
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Old December 15th, 2008, 08:14 PM   #316
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I got a good look at this this thing coming off the brooklyn bridge. It's a lot bigger in person.
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Old December 16th, 2008, 12:59 AM   #317
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Wrong thread.

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Old December 20th, 2008, 07:41 AM   #318
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From the Brooklyn side this building is going to look massive. The tower won't have anything in front of it from that angle so it will be visible from just above the podium to the top, all (well, most) 876' of it.
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