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Old May 25th, 2009, 06:58 AM   #701
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I doubt the tower will be topped out by the end of the year.

Since this project stalled once there is a very good chance it will stall again. The project still has over thirty floors to go and with one crane I doubt they can move materials that fast.
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Old May 25th, 2009, 07:09 AM   #702
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Since this project stalled once there is a very good chance it will stall again. The project still has over thirty floors to go and with one crane I doubt they can move materials that fast.
Stalled again? Why? They've already solved the problem that stalled construction the first time.
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Old May 25th, 2009, 10:37 AM   #703
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He didn't even say it got stalled again, however he's right that's possible it will happen soon. Unfortunately, that's what we call effects of the financial crisis, this project isn't the only one that stalled during the last few months.
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Old May 25th, 2009, 01:31 PM   #704
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Since this project stalled once there is a very good chance it will stall again. The project still has over thirty floors to go and with one crane I doubt they can move materials that fast.
umm they they moved construction materials with 1 crane since 1st floor Do you know how much it cost to rent one of those cranes?
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Old May 27th, 2009, 02:57 AM   #705
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Old May 27th, 2009, 05:22 AM   #706
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Thanks for the pic Onn, that's a great shot !
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Old May 27th, 2009, 01:51 PM   #707
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OMG cladding is shooting up, and gettin better. How many floors up is it now?
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Old May 27th, 2009, 03:34 PM   #708
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Cladding's great. She's gonna be a looker!
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Old May 27th, 2009, 10:50 PM   #709
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what a great shot Onn!!!!!!
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Old May 28th, 2009, 12:18 AM   #710
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Great shot but that ramp looks very smooth for NY lol
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Old May 28th, 2009, 04:15 AM   #711
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elegant and interesting!! Thanks for posting.
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Old May 28th, 2009, 05:17 AM   #712
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OMG cladding is shooting up, and gettin better. How many floors up is it now?
It's either the 40th or 41st. They just started on another floor up top over the weekend.
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Old May 29th, 2009, 08:40 AM   #713
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Savings on Labor Allow Work on Residential Skyscraper to Resume



By CHARLES V. BAGLI
May 28, 2009


Two months ago, work stopped abruptly at the 37th floor of the 76-story Beekman Tower as the developer Bruce C. Ratner desperately sought to cut costs on the project, a glass and stainless steel apartment building in Lower Manhattan.

Just as abruptly, work resumed this week on the tower, which will be the architect Frank Gehry’s first skyscraper and the tallest residential building in the city.

The developer, who had threatened to cap the building at 40 stories, said he was able to retain Mr. Gehry’s distinctive wavy-wall design and the tower’s full height, while paring labor expenses and taking advantage of falling prices for construction materials and appliances for the tower’s 900 apartments.

Mr. Ratner, chief executive of Forest City Ratner Companies, is one of a dozen developers who have approved a long-awaited and unusual project-labor agreement in which the city’s construction unions backed a series of concessions on work rules that proponents said would save builders as much as 20 percent on labor costs. Although some developers heatedly debate the exact value of the agreement, it is part of an effort to keep the building boom from running out of steam in the face of falling real estate prices and a severe recession.

“We’re thrilled to be going back to work,” said MaryAnne Gilmartin, an executive vice president of Forest City Ratner. “It’s a great project and a great building.”

Gary La Barbera, president of the union alliance, the Building and Construction Trades Council of Greater New York, and Louis J. Coletti, president of the Building Trades Employers’ Association, said the labor agreement was unprecedented and a first step in restructuring the New York construction industry. Already, they said, 12 projects representing more than $2 billion worth of construction activity and 10,000 jobs have applied for and received tentative approval.

“This agreement will help our industry and the city get back on its feet and working men and women back on jobs sites,” Mr. La Barbera said.

Other projects affected by the agreement include a hotel under construction at Eighth Avenue and 44th Street; a second Ratner tower under construction at 80 DeKalb Avenue in Brooklyn; and Tower 111, a new 47-story building on West 32nd Street. Few of the 12 projects had actually stopped work, but the officials claimed that the agreement would allow the developments to proceed on a sound economic footing or to begin work. They said two dozen more projects are under consideration for the agreement.

In a statement released by his office, Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg said: “New York City’s construction industry faces real challenges today, but labor and management in the industry are not content merely to wait for a national rebound. Instead, they are taking measures to do something about it now.”

Still, some developers say the agreement is worth far less, perhaps only 8 percent in savings, and not enough to get some stalled projects moving again, especially in cases where they paid high prices for land.

“God bless them,” said Steven Spinola, president of the Real Estate Board of New York. “But I don’t think they’re going to save much money.”

The history of the Beekman is a barometer of the undulations in the city’s real estate market. The project was conceived in 2007, at the height of a construction boom. The luxury tower, which will stand 867 feet high, or slightly taller than Trump World Tower, near the United Nations, will include a public school on the first four floors and an ambulatory care center for New York Downtown Hospital.

But by the time the site, south of the Brooklyn Bridge, had been excavated, Mr. Ratner, like many other developers, was unable to obtain a construction loan, and work halted in December 2007.

It took the developer three months to raise $680 million for construction. In a nod to the softening market, Mr. Ratner switched from condominiums to rentals and modified Mr. Gehry’s design, using a standard curtain wall instead of one with a gently wavy surface on one of the tower’s eight sides.

But the market continued to sour as apartment rents fell amid a glut of expensive units, especially downtown. Bankers and government officials say that annual rents downtown are about one-third less today than the $80 per square foot that Mr. Ratner and other developers had expected.

As a result, Mr. Ratner stopped work again in late March.

Ms. Gilmartin, of Forest City Ratner, acknowledged that the rental market had declined, but she said that Beekman Tower’s design and high-end finishes would put it in a class by itself.

“The savings we achieved go a long way toward insulating the project from any dip in rents or any protracted period of time required to lease up the building,” she said. “We’re really bullish on this building.”

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Old May 29th, 2009, 10:36 PM   #714
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encouraging news!!!!!!
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Old May 29th, 2009, 10:39 PM   #715
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Old May 30th, 2009, 05:28 PM   #716
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has anyone heard about two buildings porposed for construction in New York called One and Two Manhattan West. One is 1216ft and Two is 935ft. Anyone kow anything about this?
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Old May 30th, 2009, 09:40 PM   #718
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so there is a thread, can u just tell me?
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Old May 31st, 2009, 12:50 AM   #720
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BIG for this building now!
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