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Old January 20th, 2010, 10:41 PM   #1621
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uh ... duh ... where do you think I got this from, wise guy?

(I had to post the link to the picture so people know what I'm referring to, in case you didn't get the sarcasm in the sentence above).
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Old January 20th, 2010, 10:51 PM   #1622
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lol, i know man. u didn't want to post the same pic again, only the url. my pc didn't load the site, so during the loading process it seemed to me that there were two same pics. all ok now.

PS: and it's late here in HK, if you want guess the time!
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Old January 20th, 2010, 10:51 PM   #1623
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good.

(great pic btw. but I said that already)
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Old January 21st, 2010, 08:18 AM   #1624
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yeah, the 'problem' is that beekman looks taller than all the other towers in lower manhattan, even without a spire. the article about the topping off ceremony also confirmed the height of 867ft. but of course as we all know they continued to build on the roof (mechanicals and the parapet wall). i guess we have to wait, no big deal as it is fun watching the cladding going up!
I think the posted height is for the highest occupied floor per its DOB filing. The final height could well exceed 900 ft.
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Old January 21st, 2010, 01:14 PM   #1625
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Old January 21st, 2010, 01:46 PM   #1626
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Old January 21st, 2010, 11:24 PM   #1627
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Old January 22nd, 2010, 09:08 PM   #1628
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Old January 22nd, 2010, 10:40 PM   #1629
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Old January 23rd, 2010, 03:17 AM   #1630
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downtown Brooklyn and downtown Jersey City and lets not forget Lower Manhattan a amazing view indeed.
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Old January 23rd, 2010, 05:21 AM   #1631
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I think they need to reclad some of those buildings downtown in the above pictures, they’re starting to look rather tacky. On the other hand, once this, Freedom Tower, and 4WTC are all complete, New York will have a nice 21st century skyline.
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Old January 23rd, 2010, 09:14 AM   #1632
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Brooklyn and Jersey City need more projects to make the whole area more skyscrapered up.
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Old January 23rd, 2010, 03:53 PM   #1633
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I think they need to reclad some of those building downtown in the above pictures, they뭨e starting to look rather tacky. On the other hand, once this, Freedom Tower, and 4WTC are all complete, New York will have a nice 21st century skyline.
Which ones?
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Old January 23rd, 2010, 04:54 PM   #1634
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Which ones?
well, there are at least three i could think of, one of them would be 55 Water Street, that's for sure.
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Old January 23rd, 2010, 06:39 PM   #1635
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Which ones?
How about starting with these three, front and center.

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Old January 23rd, 2010, 11:26 PM   #1636
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Those buildings are from a different era, but they are still beautiful the way they are. Not every building can be a glass tower. The variety of buildings in this city is what makes it special. Where else in America will you see 30's era skyscrapers next to 60's era skyscrapers next to modern ones? Its either here or Chicago. If everything was glass like you want, it would be a very boring streetscape.
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Old January 23rd, 2010, 11:31 PM   #1637
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Those buildings are from a different era, but they are still beautiful the way they are. Not every building can be a glass tower. The variety of buildings in this city is what makes it special. Where else in America will you see 30's era skyscrapers next to 60's era skyscrapers next to modern ones? Its either here or Chicago. If everything was glass like you want, it would be a very boring streetscape.
well, i don't think he wants to reclad the 30's era skyscrapers, just the 60's to 80's!
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Old January 23rd, 2010, 11:53 PM   #1638
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well, i don't think he wants to reclad the 30's era skyscrapers, just the 60's to 80's!
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Those buildings are from a different era, but they are still beautiful the way they are. Not every building can be a glass tower. The variety of buildings in this city is what makes it special. Where else in America will you see 30's era skyscrapers next to 60's era skyscrapers next to modern ones? Its either here or Chicago. If everything was glass like you want, it would be a very boring streetscape.
Well there are reasons skyscrapers today are clad in all glass, and not stone. It brings many benefits to the life of the building like heat and cooling efficiency. But the overriding factor is things should be kept up to date. And these buildings from the 60s are plain boring boxes which I don't see much reason in keeping as they are. Design was not that stunning back then, you can't say these building add anything other than variety to the skyline. They probably need to be gutted anyway being that they need all new electrical systems, internet, plumbing, and safety systems. These aren't just any old buildings, they're major ones in the middle of the world's financial capital. I'm sure they were nice when they were built, at the same time things were built rather cheaply during that era. I would be interested to take a tour and see what things look like inside today. Building pre-50s I have respect for because there’s plenty you can do with them other than fitting them with fortune 500 companies. But old office space in the middle of New York is not good.

Actually there are some great examples of aritecture from the 80s around in major US cities, just not in New York.
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Old January 24th, 2010, 12:31 AM   #1639
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Reclad 55 Water St. and 1 New York Plaza? I've heard it discussed before but those are HUGE buildings with LOTS of tennants. They've never emptied them out nor would they. (between those two buildings are almost 4,000,000 sq.ft.) I'd love to see it happen though.
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Reclad 55 Water St. and 1 New York Plaza? I've heard it discussed before but those are HUGE buildings with LOTS of tennants. They've never emptied them out nor would they. (between those two buildings are almost 4,000,000 sq.ft.) I'd love to see it happen though.
Well maybe when the WTC is complete it will relieve some of the pressure off these buildings and the owners will have more room to do renovations. I guess when the tenants stop coming you know it's time.

The buildings are indeed very large, but that also shows their importance. Businesses probably migrated to these buildings after 9/11 with the loss of the twin towers, I'm sure they're filled to capacity. But I think they would be a lot more attractive with all glass facades. For all the hate towards bland boring boxes around here, the good thing about them is that they are easy to upgrade with the times.
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