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Old April 25th, 2009, 08:46 AM   #1081
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Old April 25th, 2009, 08:47 AM   #1082
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Thanks for the openess. Hezbollah gave up it's own seat to give to its partners, just inorder to stay united and organized.

Junblatt done the same thing in Shouf.
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Old April 25th, 2009, 08:50 AM   #1083
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BTW...How does March 14 explain Fatfat's actions in the July War ???




Please explain it to me oh ye Lebanese
I can't watch this right now , but i will be able to watch it later on tonight,and you will get my answer.
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Old April 25th, 2009, 08:58 AM   #1084
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no,Nasrallah is
oh big time !!!! he is backed by a country that loves democracy
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Old April 25th, 2009, 10:50 AM   #1085
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no,Nasrallah is
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Old April 25th, 2009, 11:36 AM   #1086
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Nasrallah might be divine for U but not for us !
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Old April 25th, 2009, 11:39 AM   #1087
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moderators plz do something about spamming all threads with poison...
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Old April 25th, 2009, 12:29 PM   #1088
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No he doesnt mean it like that - that would be a terrorist. He means to be killed because he believes in a cause. To die for his country (not to kill others!) - like Hariri, Tueni, etc...
10x beiruti for clarifying; that is exactly what i meant
10x also 4 alisalih and to answer the ur question about hizbolla martyrs
yes, ofcourse they are martyrs just like hariri & tueni and all the 14march martyrs
because martyrs don't belong to a party or religion; they are who die defending their country
just because i have political differences with hizbolla does not mean i disrespect their martyrs
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Old April 25th, 2009, 01:54 PM   #1089
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Before you come with the "Killing other innocent people," look at what your country has done, and how your country has triggered all the violence there is today around the world. Look at how the same terrorists who they are today fighting. Look at how they have killed more people in Iraq, than Saddam Hussein ever killed, over what? Over a political system called Democracy. Look at the terrorist nations which in a 22 day/34 day war, can kill 1,500+/1,200 civilians (respectively).
OMG for christ sake.. dont you start in this thread.
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Old April 25th, 2009, 03:51 PM   #1090
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Yes, you're right. I'm sorry, I am too ignorant to understand Lebanese politics, please teach me!
Wow if you are seriously going to blame Hezbollah for the May 7 incidents,
Well they were responsible... They came to Beirut and Dahieh was normal. I don't think your ignorant, just too stubborn to see that HA can do nothing wrong. I challenge you to name one thing you disagree with HA on. Here's a video that shows you what May 2008 was like by a pro HA guy! Imagine if March 14th acted like this in Dahieh when they wanted the Syrians out of Lebanon! Behavior like this definitely is not something to be proud of

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tXy0Dp-LuA


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Saudia Arabia should back off.....
My end goal with that article wasn't that March 14th alone is receiving support from foreign sources. I was saying BOTH are and are wrong for it but since most of the people here are March 14, they need to see the wrong their party is doing. If your getting foreign money to run your campaign. It raises an almost certain conflict of interest. There is no reason you should say Saudi Arabia should back off and not Syria and Iran.

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Old April 25th, 2009, 04:28 PM   #1091
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Imagine if March 14th acted like this in Dahieh when they wanted the Syrians out of Lebanon! Behavior like this definitely is not something to be proud of
If you wanna play that game.... here's a masascre committed by march 14 members. Its very brutal and I warn everybody of the content in this clip.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Dimb...e=channel_page
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Old April 25th, 2009, 04:38 PM   #1092
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Future movement has bad members as well. I don't disagree with you. I've seen them stop a guy in TJ, check his ID, and beat him up for no reason other than his family name is Fadhullah even while he begged for mercy and cursed Nasrallah. But groups like Amal and the SSNP beat innocent people as well and their ally HA defends and protects them while they claim to be protectors of Lebanon.

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Old April 25th, 2009, 05:11 PM   #1093
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and he needs to respect that.he wants to insult Junblat and Geagea,and he expect us to just remain silent,,i mean , this is exactly how hizbullah treats lebanese,i want to keep on having weapons , and u lebanese who oppose that,,,burn in hell.it's really sad to see young LEBANESE people thinking this way.
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Old April 25th, 2009, 06:35 PM   #1094
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martyrs don't belong to a party or religion; they are who die defending their country
just because i have political differences with hizbolla does not mean i disrespect their martyrs
Yislamli hal tim
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Old April 25th, 2009, 06:59 PM   #1095
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and he needs to respect that.he wants to insult Junblat and Geagea,and he expect us to just remain silent,,i mean , this is exactly how hizbullah treats lebanese,i want to keep on having weapons , and u lebanese who oppose that,,,burn in hell.it's really sad to see young LEBANESE people thinking this way.

Where is he insulting Junblat and Geagea? Please tell me. Don't take stuff out of context, because the Sayyed Hassan has NEVER insulted a politician, and if he has, it was for a reason. The only one insulting anyone is your leaders are your leaders only. When Jumblatt speaks, or even when they all speak.

Moreover, the people who want to take away the weapons from Hezbollah are the same people who don't give a darn about the security of Lebanon, and want peace with Israel and not with Syria. This is exactly what our enemies want from us, and you guys, step by step, are walking into their trap. You are willing to recieve model airplanes and call Lebanon "safe." Istoofloo, it won't happen
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Old April 25th, 2009, 10:57 PM   #1096
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I'm just curious, since you wrote etc, I just wonder...Are the Hezbollah fighters who have been fighting for Lebanon from 1985-2006 way Before Hariri or Tueni, anywhere included in that long list of Martys you have there? Or are their contribution for Lebanon (acknowleding the fact that they Liberated Lebanon) doesn't count? Just a question, Please answer.
I only have respect for martyrs that dont intentionally kill themselves. Of course, the cause must truly be a Lebanese cause.
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Old April 26th, 2009, 12:00 AM   #1097
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Where is he insulting Junblat and Geagea? Please tell me. Don't take stuff out of context, because the Sayyed Hassan has NEVER insulted a politician, and if he has, it was for a reason. The only one insulting anyone is your leaders are your leaders only. When Jumblatt speaks, or even when they all speak.

Moreover, the people who want to take away the weapons from Hezbollah are the same people who don't give a darn about the security of Lebanon, and want peace with Israel and not with Syria. This is exactly what our enemies want from us, and you guys, step by step, are walking into their trap. You are willing to recieve model airplanes and call Lebanon "safe." Istoofloo, it won't happen

1st-Well,u insulted them when u said ironically they r model of democracy,so YES U DID.

2nd-Do u think Nasrallah is a prophet ??? he's a human being and i think as a muslim ya Ali , u should believe that he DID MADE mistakes , and i can totally see here that u r totally following him no matter what , while we as March 14 supporters don't like many of what the leaders do and say. an example of why we r not falling into "western trap" is , we celebrate the israeli withfrawal from south Lebanon in 2000,while you don't celebrate syrian withdrawal from ALL of Lebanon in 2005 . how Lebanese u r guys,,,oh,did i forget to mention that u guys said THANX to syria after killing Hariri , even if syria didn't commit that crime,still the majority of Lebanese think that,u went against ur own people to say thanx to syria,3a CHOU da5lak,gimme ONE GOOD THING THEY DID TO LEBANON,JUST ONE !!!!!!!!!!!!

3rd-Lebanon wasn't safe and is not safe with the weapons of Hizbullah,2006 anyone ??? So , please before you right anything here,be careful.
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Old April 26th, 2009, 12:36 AM   #1098
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I don't know whats wrong, I did it correctly.

here's the link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=it1ynlwUzKw

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Old April 26th, 2009, 12:38 AM   #1099
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you mis-linked your video!
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Old April 26th, 2009, 01:27 AM   #1100
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I only have respect for martyrs that dont intentionally kill themselves. Of course, the cause must truly be a Lebanese cause.
If by intentionally killing themselves, you mean suicide bombings, Hezbollah doesn't do that. I don't think Lebanese men will die for a cause other than Lebanese.

7assak ka2inak baddak it2ool inoo shohada2 hezbollah ta7t sormeytaK...Please correct me if I am wrong. I lost relatives throughout the years and I assure you they were as Lebanese as a Lebanese can get, and patriotic. Those men who enlist in Hezbollah, it is not because of Iran, it is because their neighbors are constantly bothering them in the south. They decided they weren't going to continue to see their people suffer like this.
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