Weekend in San Diego

solongfullerton · November 7th, 2006, 04:28 AM

I don't know if anyone has been down to SD in a while, but I just had to post to say how amazed I was with the area. Most of the city is still suburban crap, but their downtown is almost unbelievalbe. I've been to a lot of the US and many places internationally as well, but I've never been anywhere that had so many bars/night clubs/restaurants in one neighborhood as the Gaslamp Quarter. Then you've got Petco Park next door and 2 train lines that run through downtown. These same trains also connect you to the airport, little italy, Qualcomm Stadium, and SDSU. Speaking of Qualcomm, I went to the Charger's game on Sunday, and I've never seen so many people use transit to get to a sporting event. Granted I've nvever been to a Yankees or Red Sox game, but every train that pulled into the station before the game just had pepole pouring out and after the game, the line to get onto a train was as long as Space Mountain at Disneyland. Seriously, atleast half an hour to catch a train. Then theres the amount of urban housing and conversion that is going on downtown. There are way more new buildings being put up in downtown SD than downtown LA. Also, there is a lot of renewal to delapidated structures in the area. Theyve also got not only one, but 2 grocery stores downtown to cater to the locals. There real estate is also probably at 75% of the cost relative to LA.

I also have a few concerns with SD. First, is that much like my parents, many of the new homeowners downtown are just vacationers that are coming to visit on the weekends (my dad was saying he thinks its about 60/40residents to vacationers). This makes downtown SD an extremely speculative market. This also means that outside of the tourists, which there are many of, the locals coming to hang out downtown are driving in, even with a very efficient and productive rail system. Also, there is a ridiculous amount of parking down there. Most of it is hidden very well, but my parents building has a cavernous 3 level subterranean lot with mostly empty spots. Even though its dissapointing that LA is much farther behind with its downtown redevelopment, I think LA is being much smarter by getting the residents downtown before the entertainment. I think that this will be much better for a longterm sustainable neighborhood. I was also dissapointed that outside of downtown, theres not much to do for young people in SD. There Pacific Beach, which also has a lot of bars, but that leaves only 2 places to get your party on.

It's like if you were only to be able to go to Santa Monica and Hermose Beach to party.

Even though the only difference between the OC and San Diego is a lively urban core, the planners down there were able to make sure that visitors have no reason to leave their perfect downtown. There is plenty to do there to keep a visitor busy for many days. I can totally see why domestic and foreign tourists alike end up prefering SD to LA on their trips through Southern California. I think that LA has way more to offer for young people and urbanites, but I guess in conclusion, I'm really glad that LA was able to snag SD's former chief planner for their own. We really have no way to go but up from here.

Fern~Fern* · November 7th, 2006, 04:37 AM

Totally agree Downtown SD has a rockin night life. I've been meaning to check it out but too much work, OK that's a lie I'm unemployed. I've been too busy crossing the border and party till dawn on Revolution @ Senor Froggs or anywhere with open bar!!!!!!

VanSeaPor · November 7th, 2006, 04:55 AM

I went to SoCal recently. I saw very little of SD, but I did manage to see the skyline. I would've loved to see more.

I read your comment about most of SD being suburban. Although this is correct, it is true of most North American cities. It's just that alot of it's new, so we need time to let it settle in. Maybe we could plant a few more trees in the 'burbs, which would help. Also, restoring some of San Diego's older buildings to their former glory would help, as well as building new buildings in old styles.

godblessbotox · November 7th, 2006, 06:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ferneynism

Totally agree Downtown SD has a rockin night life. I've been meaning to check it out but too much work, OK that's a lie I'm unemployed. I've been too busy crossing the border and party till dawn on Revolution @ Senor Froggs or anywhere with open bar!!!!!!

what the hell do you do all day then?

Fern~Fern* · November 7th, 2006, 06:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by godblessbotox

what the hell do you do all day then?

Hummmmmmm, you know!

godblessbotox · November 7th, 2006, 06:53 AM

masterbate?
park?
hang out on ssc?
i dont know?

Joey313 · November 7th, 2006, 07:09 AM

lol....

hey your the guy who had an orgasm
you posted that a while back.

godblessbotox · November 7th, 2006, 07:49 AM

...?
i think mostly everyone here has had atleast one

Joey313 · November 7th, 2006, 08:03 AM

to honest i just had one a couple of mins ago

archd1 · November 7th, 2006, 08:33 AM

The Gas Lamp quarter is indeed a great place to enjoy a night on the town in SD....but sorry to say, it still aint Hollywood! (or maybe the Gas Lamp quarter doesn't want to be like Hollywood, eh why not?)..lol

godblessbotox · November 7th, 2006, 08:41 AM

well done archd1

archd1 · November 7th, 2006, 08:50 AM

Botox, I've always known you're a Hollywood babe....lol

Fern~Fern* · November 7th, 2006, 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joey313

to honest i just had one a couple of mins ago

^ Where you watching Sponge Bob again.....

Elsongs · November 7th, 2006, 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joey313

to honest i just had one a couple of mins ago

TOO MUCH INFORMATION!!!!

alex3000 · November 7th, 2006, 12:54 PM

Is it wrong that this thread is turning me on??? I asked Jesus... he didn't reply.

@ solongfullerton,
All I can say is that I agree with what you said on the first paragraph. Yup yup...

godblessbotox · November 7th, 2006, 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ferneynism

^ Where you watching Sponge Bob again.....

ha ha ha!

Westsidelife · November 7th, 2006, 09:39 PM

This thread along with this forum is just wrong! Too many weirdos here...

Joey313 · November 8th, 2006, 12:59 AM

who are the weirods?

JfromL.A · November 8th, 2006, 01:16 AM

downtown san diego reminds me more and more of downtown long beach. give long beach 3-5 years and it will look like it even more with all the development going on. Even now with the growing nightlife, pine ave gets packed on weekend nights, it reminds me a lot of the gaslamp quarter in s.d

croyboy · November 9th, 2006, 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JfromL.A

downtown san diego reminds me more and more of downtown long beach. give long beach 3-5 years and it will look like it even more with all the development going on. Even now with the growing nightlife, pine ave gets packed on weekend nights, it reminds me a lot of the gaslamp quarter in s.d

funny. i didn't realize it but yeah the two are very similar. it'd be nearly identical after all the long beach development if there were a bridge from long beach waterfront to the queen mary.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joey313

who are the weirods?

weirods?

... yeah

November 7th, 2006, 04:28 AM	#1
solongfullerton Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 292 Likes (Received): 0	Weekend in San Diego I don't know if anyone has been down to SD in a while, but I just had to post to say how amazed I was with the area. Most of the city is still suburban crap, but their downtown is almost unbelievalbe. I've been to a lot of the US and many places internationally as well, but I've never been anywhere that had so many bars/night clubs/restaurants in one neighborhood as the Gaslamp Quarter. Then you've got Petco Park next door and 2 train lines that run through downtown. These same trains also connect you to the airport, little italy, Qualcomm Stadium, and SDSU. Speaking of Qualcomm, I went to the Charger's game on Sunday, and I've never seen so many people use transit to get to a sporting event. Granted I've nvever been to a Yankees or Red Sox game, but every train that pulled into the station before the game just had pepole pouring out and after the game, the line to get onto a train was as long as Space Mountain at Disneyland. Seriously, atleast half an hour to catch a train. Then theres the amount of urban housing and conversion that is going on downtown. There are way more new buildings being put up in downtown SD than downtown LA. Also, there is a lot of renewal to delapidated structures in the area. Theyve also got not only one, but 2 grocery stores downtown to cater to the locals. There real estate is also probably at 75% of the cost relative to LA. I also have a few concerns with SD. First, is that much like my parents, many of the new homeowners downtown are just vacationers that are coming to visit on the weekends (my dad was saying he thinks its about 60/40residents to vacationers). This makes downtown SD an extremely speculative market. This also means that outside of the tourists, which there are many of, the locals coming to hang out downtown are driving in, even with a very efficient and productive rail system. Also, there is a ridiculous amount of parking down there. Most of it is hidden very well, but my parents building has a cavernous 3 level subterranean lot with mostly empty spots. Even though its dissapointing that LA is much farther behind with its downtown redevelopment, I think LA is being much smarter by getting the residents downtown before the entertainment. I think that this will be much better for a longterm sustainable neighborhood. I was also dissapointed that outside of downtown, theres not much to do for young people in SD. There Pacific Beach, which also has a lot of bars, but that leaves only 2 places to get your party on. It's like if you were only to be able to go to Santa Monica and Hermose Beach to party. Even though the only difference between the OC and San Diego is a lively urban core, the planners down there were able to make sure that visitors have no reason to leave their perfect downtown. There is plenty to do there to keep a visitor busy for many days. I can totally see why domestic and foreign tourists alike end up prefering SD to LA on their trips through Southern California. I think that LA has way more to offer for young people and urbanites, but I guess in conclusion, I'm really glad that LA was able to snag SD's former chief planner for their own. We really have no way to go but up from here.

November 7th, 2006, 04:37 AM	#2
Fern~Fern* Inquiry Within... Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Currently residing in the good Ol' IE until something else arises from the horizon. Posts: 7,425 Likes (Received): 9	Totally agree Downtown SD has a rockin night life. I've been meaning to check it out but too much work, OK that's a lie I'm unemployed. I've been too busy crossing the border and party till dawn on Revolution @ Senor Froggs or anywhere with open bar!!!!!! __________________ You're so FAKE that you should have two Facebook accounts, one for each face.... ~~By Fern to the Fern*

November 7th, 2006, 04:55 AM	#3
VanSeaPor Yeah..... Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: All cities on North America's west coast Posts: 728 Likes (Received): 0	I went to SoCal recently. I saw very little of SD, but I did manage to see the skyline. I would've loved to see more. I read your comment about most of SD being suburban. Although this is correct, it is true of most North American cities. It's just that alot of it's new, so we need time to let it settle in. Maybe we could plant a few more trees in the 'burbs, which would help. Also, restoring some of San Diego's older buildings to their former glory would help, as well as building new buildings in old styles. __________________ "When the productive need to ask permission from the unproductive in order to produce, then you may know that your culture is doomed."-Ayn Rand "Fact: That every man who puts money into the hands of a 'government' (so called), puts into its hands a sword which will be used against himself, to extort more money from him, and also to keep him in subjection to its arbitrary will."-Lysander Spooner "If you don't stand for anything, you don't stand for anything!"-George W Bush

November 7th, 2006, 06:53 AM	#6
godblessbotox la is pritty Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Los Dieguana Posts: 2,335 Likes (Received): 0	masterbate? park? hang out on ssc? i dont know? __________________ go silver line go!!! ...go aqua line go??? me+flickr=joy

November 7th, 2006, 07:09 AM	#7
Joey313 JOEY Join Date: May 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,810 Likes (Received): 0	lol.... hey your the guy who had an orgasm you posted that a while back. __________________ In Los Angeles versus the San Gabriel Mountains, it is not always clear which side is losing. If a tidal wave hits L.A just grab a fake boob for safety.

November 7th, 2006, 07:49 AM	#8
godblessbotox la is pritty Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Los Dieguana Posts: 2,335 Likes (Received): 0	...? i think mostly everyone here has had atleast one __________________ go silver line go!!! ...go aqua line go??? me+flickr=joy

November 7th, 2006, 08:03 AM	#9
Joey313 JOEY Join Date: May 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,810 Likes (Received): 0	to honest i just had one a couple of mins ago __________________ In Los Angeles versus the San Gabriel Mountains, it is not always clear which side is losing. If a tidal wave hits L.A just grab a fake boob for safety.

November 7th, 2006, 08:33 AM	#10
archd1 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 185 Likes (Received): 0	The Gas Lamp quarter is indeed a great place to enjoy a night on the town in SD....but sorry to say, it still aint Hollywood! (or maybe the Gas Lamp quarter doesn't want to be like Hollywood, eh why not?)..lol __________________ *Los Angeles: A City of Four Ecologies* Last edited by archd1; November 7th, 2006 at 08:52 AM.

November 7th, 2006, 08:41 AM	#11
godblessbotox la is pritty Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Los Dieguana Posts: 2,335 Likes (Received): 0	well done archd1 __________________ go silver line go!!! ...go aqua line go??? me+flickr=joy

November 7th, 2006, 08:50 AM	#12
archd1 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 185 Likes (Received): 0	Botox, I've always known you're a Hollywood babe....lol __________________ *Los Angeles: A City of Four Ecologies*

November 7th, 2006, 12:54 PM	#15
alex3000 I'm not Chinese Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,347 Likes (Received): 1	Is it wrong that this thread is turning me on??? I asked Jesus... he didn't reply. @ solongfullerton, All I can say is that I agree with what you said on the first paragraph. Yup yup... __________________ California must protect its borders from AUSTRIA.

November 7th, 2006, 09:39 PM	#17
Westsidelife LAL / LAK / LAD Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,787 Likes (Received): 7	This thread along with this forum is just wrong! Too many weirdos here... __________________ "I'm an LA guy, can't help it." -- Tiger Woods

November 8th, 2006, 12:59 AM	#18
Joey313 JOEY Join Date: May 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,810 Likes (Received): 0	who are the weirods? __________________ In Los Angeles versus the San Gabriel Mountains, it is not always clear which side is losing. If a tidal wave hits L.A just grab a fake boob for safety. Last edited by Joey313; November 8th, 2006 at 02:41 AM.

November 8th, 2006, 01:16 AM	#19
JfromL.A Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 36 Likes (Received): 0	downtown san diego reminds me more and more of downtown long beach. give long beach 3-5 years and it will look like it even more with all the development going on. Even now with the growing nightlife, pine ave gets packed on weekend nights, it reminds me a lot of the gaslamp quarter in s.d

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