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dreadathecontrols · February 4th, 2009, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Black Cat

With the slippage in the schedules already, I would assume the goal now is to be externally complete by the time of the Olympics, so 1st or 2nd quarter of 2012. It may be that parts of the interior may also be ready in time for the olympics, such as the hotel, but it would not surprise me if the offices and appartments are not ready till towards the end of 2012 or early 2013.

It would be great though if all could be ready earlier - but I recall construction was originally forecast to take four years, thus even mid 2012 is likely an accelerated schedule.

Jesus; BC, youre now second in the least post per year race.
S'all quality.

Noostairz · February 4th, 2009, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Republica

The picture of the strata tower from miles away just made me think of all the wild places that we will be able to see this in London... It's gonna pop up all over the place!

i was just thinking the same thing - the impact will be massive and importantly from the point of view of enthusiasts like us, impress upon new generations of londoners the potential a highrise has for beauty, inspiration, and iconic status. new generations are going to grow up and consider a 310m skyscraper in the centre of london not just normal, but (i would hope) integral - a defining feature of their city, something of architectural pride.

take that, EH.

mulattokid · February 5th, 2009, 12:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Black Cat

With the slippage in the schedules already, I would assume the goal now is to be externally complete by the time of the Olympics, so 1st or 2nd quarter of 2012. It may be that parts of the interior may also be ready in time for the olympics, such as the hotel, but it would not surprise me if the offices and appartments are not ready till towards the end of 2012 or early 2013.

It would be great though if all could be ready earlier - but I recall construction was originally forecast to take four years, thus even mid 2012 is likely an accelerated schedule.

Maybe, but I was going by this news article of Jan 25th which states otherwise:

Shard construction to begin in March
Published: 22 January 2009 17:17 Author: Nick Whitten More by this Author Last Updated: 23 January 2009 08:22 Reader Responses

Construction of Europe's tallest building the Shard will begin in March according to developer's Sellar Property Group.
Demolition of the old Southwark towers is now virtually complete and piling work will be carried out between now and March.

Contractor Mace will begin construction work at the London Bridge site in March with completion expected in the second quarter of 2012.

The 310 metre high building - roughly the same height as New York's Chrysler Building – will become the tallest in Europe.

A Sellar Property Group spokesman said: "The contractor has been appointed and the funding is all in place.

"We hope to start construction in March with the expectation of completing the project in the second quarter of 2012."

In December Qatari Diar Real Estate Investment Company agreed to inject cash into the project that has been dogged by rumours that it would never be built.

The developer of London Bridge's Shard tower is reported to have agreed a price of about £425 million for the scheme with Mace.

The sum is a saving of about £10 million on the fixed-price bid that Mace submitted two months ago, but is still about £75 million above the original estimate of £350 million.

Vodski Bandit · February 5th, 2009, 04:57 AM

Good article. Roll on March then hey! It's gonna be increadible to finally see this baby actually rising out of the ground... not long now

Black Cat · February 5th, 2009, 05:33 AM

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Originally Posted by dreadathecontrols

Jesus; BC, youre now second in the least post per year race.
S'all quality.

Thanks d! My post count per year would have been higher if a number of threads had not disappeared some years ago. Oh well...quantity isn't everything.

twilight_2008 · February 5th, 2009, 10:10 AM

Just looking at the webcams, they are incredicbly busy on the site.

It says in that article from January 25th that they are to do piling from now until March, that seems impossible!

The Sage · February 5th, 2009, 11:52 AM

I'm just waiting for the post announcing that piling rigs have turned up on site...

dreadathecontrols · February 5th, 2009, 02:22 PM

All those fun thread where we all likes to stick the boot in just disapeared.
Oh well..
A question.
Shard starts in march.
Cores or steel exos go up at about a storey a week?
So by the end of the summer there'll be a very visible say 30/40 stories high protrusion on the south bank?
Is that how its gonna work?
Cheers d

mulattokid · February 5th, 2009, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Black Cat

Thanks d! My post count per year would have been higher if a number of threads had not disappeared some years ago. Oh well...quantity isn't everything.

Actually looking at your post again...there is nothing between your dates and the news article really ...whats 1 Quarter amongst friends

ismail · February 5th, 2009, 05:03 PM

I would think that that schedule has slipped by about 2 months, They may well be able to start some form of construction in March, but we are still a week or 2 away from piling.
Them 300 piles at a rate of about 6 day, gives you about 45 days for piling, which takes you in to May.

dronkula · February 5th, 2009, 05:09 PM

I'm pretty sure the Hotel operators are really *really* going to want to be up and running as early in 2012 as possible. Not just because of the Olympics but also because that year it's also Queenie's Diamond Jubilee - remember how big her Golden one was in 2002? I would expect something similar for 2012 - with concerts etc. and rich Celebs needing to stay somewhere.

ibiza · February 5th, 2009, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by dreadathecontrols

So by the end of the summer there'll be a very visible say 30/40 stories high protrusion on the south bank?

From end of demolition to 30/40 stories core in a bit more than half a year? You must be kidding!

Nevertheless interesting question - I don't think we have an exact construction schedule yet for the Shard, but to give you a rough idea this is the one from Heron:
http://www.planning.cityoflondon.gov...&pageCount=129
As one can see Heron might make it to 30/40 stories by late summer this year. But it finished demolition already around the end of 2007! So as a rough guess I would say mid 2010 for the progress you asked about. The shard construction video reposted a few pages ago would also indicate that that progress is taking about half of the remaining time till external completion which should be by end of 2011 if it's fully completed by mid 2012

Anybody else with more info on how the construction schedule for the Shard might compare to Herons?

ismail · February 5th, 2009, 08:07 PM

The Shard has a concrete core, apart from the upper levels, so the speed at which the forming takes place will quicken as the floors get smaller.
From about 8 days per floor at lower levels to 4 for the higher ones.
To give you some idea Burg Dubai was rising by a floor every 4 days at lower levels, and then a floor every 2 day as the size of the floors reduced. I'm not saying this will happen with the Shard, as they worked 24 hours a day on Burg Dubai.
Heron is all steel, and this takes slightly longer to erect.

DarJoLe · February 5th, 2009, 08:19 PM

The whole structure will be flown in and lowered by a fleet of helicopters overnight.

mulattokid · February 5th, 2009, 10:11 PM

^ Oh good..and that will dry my washing in a trice

philb · February 6th, 2009, 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by DarJoLe

The whole structure will be flown in and lowered by a fleet of helicopters overnight.

lol. I can't believe it has already been built, sitting in a field in Sussex and none of us noticed.

ibiza · February 6th, 2009, 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by philb

lol. I can't believe it has already been built, sitting in a field in Sussex and none of us noticed.

and funnily as the pictures released by an steel engineer working on the project proved for an afternoon (after that he had to withdraw them for confidentiality issues) this can really be said for Heron tower. The whole steel structure could indeed be seen sitting in a field and waiting to be brought to London

BorderBoy · February 6th, 2009, 01:15 AM

... or in Dubai ... hidden amongst all the 'scrapers there, brought to London on a barge and raised like the London Eye

Tharpe · February 6th, 2009, 12:03 PM

lol it would be funnier, if it was bought on a hypermassive barge standing upright.

RobH · February 6th, 2009, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by philb

lol. I can't believe it has already been built, sitting in a field in Sussex and none of us noticed.

It's on its side, that's why! (to think they'd build it upright, of all the silly suggestions!)

February 5th, 2009, 02:22 PM	#4388
dreadathecontrols unregistered Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 2,576 Likes (Received): 1	All those fun thread where we all likes to stick the boot in just disapeared. Oh well.. A question. Shard starts in march. Cores or steel exos go up at about a storey a week? So by the end of the summer there'll be a very visible say 30/40 stories high protrusion on the south bank? Is that how its gonna work? Cheers d __________________ *......guess who's coming to dinner.....*

February 5th, 2009, 05:03 PM	#4390
ismail Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: london Posts: 1,966 Likes (Received): 2	I would think that that schedule has slipped by about 2 months, They may well be able to start some form of construction in March, but we are still a week or 2 away from piling. Them 300 piles at a rate of about 6 day, gives you about 45 days for piling, which takes you in to May. __________________ I am the Law

February 5th, 2009, 08:07 PM	#4393
ismail Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: london Posts: 1,966 Likes (Received): 2	The Shard has a concrete core, apart from the upper levels, so the speed at which the forming takes place will quicken as the floors get smaller. From about 8 days per floor at lower levels to 4 for the higher ones. To give you some idea Burg Dubai was rising by a floor every 4 days at lower levels, and then a floor every 2 day as the size of the floors reduced. I'm not saying this will happen with the Shard, as they worked 24 hours a day on Burg Dubai. Heron is all steel, and this takes slightly longer to erect. __________________ I am the Law

February 5th, 2009, 08:19 PM	#4394
DarJoLe Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: London Posts: 15,782 Likes (Received): 484	The whole structure will be flown in and lowered by a fleet of helicopters overnight. __________________ "I can quite confidently and with pride say that if everything goes to plan London 2012 will be the best Olympic Games and will surpass Barcelona and Sydney in terms of atmosphere, style and achievement. And not just about the sport. The whole city and its people will come alive and want to be a part of this. It just feels right." DarJoLe, May 19th 2006.

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February 5th, 2009, 04:57 AM	#4384
Vodski Bandit Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: London Posts: 366 Likes (Received): 0	Good article. Roll on March then hey! It's gonna be increadible to finally see this baby actually rising out of the ground... not long now

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twilight_2008 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Stourbridge, West Midlands Posts: 1,326 Likes (Received): 0	Just looking at the webcams, they are incredicbly busy on the site. It says in that article from January 25th that they are to do piling from now until March, that seems impossible!

February 5th, 2009, 11:52 AM	#4387
The Sage I want my LBT Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: London Posts: 1,552 Likes (Received): 1	I'm just waiting for the post announcing that piling rigs have turned up on site...

February 5th, 2009, 05:09 PM	#4391
dronkula Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Dublin Posts: 1,465 Likes (Received): 1	I'm pretty sure the Hotel operators are really really going to want to be up and running as early in 2012 as possible. Not just because of the Olympics but also because that year it's also Queenie's Diamond Jubilee - remember how big her Golden one was in 2002? I would expect something similar for 2012 - with concerts etc. and rich Celebs needing to stay somewhere.

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BorderBoy Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: London Posts: 1,716 Likes (Received): 0	... or in Dubai ... hidden amongst all the 'scrapers there, brought to London on a barge and raised like the London Eye __________________ You think you are one thing but you know that you are seen as another and you suspect that maybe you are that other but you don’t know what that means ...

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Tharpe Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Minas Tirith Posts: 301 Likes (Received): 0	lol it would be funnier, if it was bought on a hypermassive barge standing upright. __________________ selvom du ikke tror det Gud elsker dig og stadig bryder sig om dig, han ønsker at være i forhold med dig og dele dit liv med glæde, hvis du vil lade ham.

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