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Old October 15th, 2011, 03:52 AM   #41
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One of the reasons why it is so hard to define Art Deco is because the term itself has only been around for 30 or 40 years - at the time there was no such thing as "art Deco".

Art Deco really came out of the Art nouveau movement (think floral motifs, very organic lines) but was more concerned with looking forward. It got it's foothold in Paris, with the Exposition D'arts Moderne, but was never really considered a specific movement unlike Art Nouveau or Modernism or Constructivism. Therefor, it really took on all sorts of characters from wherever it was used. While we often point to the very geometric forms popular in places such as Miami and New York, it also encompasses neo-Egyptian themes and Moderne. Moderne, in particular, developed a life of it's own, often called streamline modern because of its heavy use in industrial design particularly vehicles.

So it is easier to describe Art Deco less as a physical style, but rather a collection of styles that marked the transition from traditional ornamentational design to the more form based modern styles, which means you talk more about when than what. Early Art Deco is an applied ornamentation on conventional buildings that used modern, usually geometrical, motifs unlike the traditional design elements of earlier styles. In that sense some craftsman styles could also be considered Art Deco. Later Art deco still used applied ornamentation, but usually fairly discretely on modern forms. Thus the transition from streamline modern to modern was less the form itself as the complete removal of applied ornament.

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Old October 15th, 2011, 06:42 AM   #42
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I know the Chrysler building and Empire state are 'Art Deco'.....but what makes them Art Deco?

Is it the 'layered' and 'angular' architecture?...the fact that they 'taper' near the top?

Would this at all be considered Art Deco?...

El Art Deco como también el Art Noveau son movimientos considerados como "El modernismo temprano" es un estilo arquitectónico YA CONSIDERADO dentro de la arquitectura moderna pero que funciona como intermedio entre el modernismo en si y el clasicismo anterior... durante el desarrollo del mismo se buscaba una oposición a " lo que no se necesita" Virasolo por ejemplo, se oponía a todos aquellos elementos que no le eran propios al edificio en el plano de la estructura, como manera de "representarlo" se dejaba a la vista las losas, se quitaban elementos o se agregaban como una manera de exponer que los mismos no le eran propios a la estructura del edificio sino que eran simple ornamentación... Se discutía por ejemplo diseñar balcones con apoyos a 45° ( a la vista) que en realidad eran de hormigón... Es decir, que no necesitaban ese apoyo sino que funcionaban empotrados....
Es considerado dentro del movimiento moderno ya que se opone al modelo anterior tratando de "simplificar" todo aquello que estructuralmente no le era propio sino que funcionaba de ornamento.... fingiendo estructuras que no habían... TAMBIÉN comienza a APLICAR ELEMENTOS DE FABRICACIÓN EN MASA...
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