New Istana Negara at Jalan Duta

johnsonooi · November 14th, 2006, 12:26 AM

New RM400 Million Istana Negara Complex To Be Ready By 2009

KUALA LUMPUR, Nov 13 (Bernama) -- A new palace complex costing RM400 million in Jalan Duta will be built to replace the Istana Negara that has been used since 1928.

Works Minister Datuk Seri S. Samy Vellu said work on the new Istana Negara to be built atop a hill on a 241.3-acre (96.52 hectares) site would start next June and slated for completion in 2009.

"We need a new palace with larger space. Currently, the Balai Rong Seri of Istana Negara is also used for banquets and meetings. One room for multiple use is just inadequate," he told reporters at the ground-breaking ceremony for the new palace in Jalan Duta here, Monday.

It was officiated by Yang di-Pertuan Agong Tuanku Syed Sirajuddin Syed Putra Jamalullail. Prime Minister Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi, his deputy Datuk Seri Najib Tun Razak and Cabinet members were also present.

Samy Vellu said the new Istana Negara steeped in Islamic and Malay architectural designs had been on the drawing board since nine months ago.

"It will not be the largest palace as there are larger ones around, but will be one suitable for a country like Malaysia," he added.

He said the fate of the present Istana Negara would be determined by the Prime Minister's Department. Bernama has been made to understand that it had been proposed as a royal museum.

Kumpulan Seni Reka Sdn Bhd has been appointed architect for the new palace with Maya Maju Sdn Bhd the building contractor.

Samy Vellu said the site for the new palace had been gazetted for the purpose 30 years ago.

-- BERNAMA

johnsonooi · November 14th, 2006, 12:27 AM

Anyone has the rendering of the new complex?

blurangel · November 14th, 2006, 02:03 AM

Hi Johnsonooi,

Go to this website and you will be able to take a look at the scale model....

http://www.thestar.com.my/news/story...167&sec=nation

although its a little bit small....

Yee Haa · November 14th, 2006, 02:47 AM

Hope this won't take more than 10 years to built & cost won't over run like Matrade..

forrestcat · November 14th, 2006, 02:56 AM

I hope they relegate the palace to more public functions rather than a place solely for the King.It's good that at least the park around it would be open to the public.

pedang · November 14th, 2006, 03:14 AM

Cabinet to decide on future of prime palace land

By Presenna Nambiar
presenna@nstp.com.my

November 14 2006

THE Cabinet will decide on the future of a large piece of land that houses the existing National Palace, an area with huge development potential that is eyed by many developers.

The National Palace is to be moved from its current location on Syed Putra Road to a 97.65-hectare piece of gazetted land in the Jalan Duta area.

There are plans for the existing palace to be a Royal Museum but this needs to be approved by the Cabinet. The palace sits on some 11ha of land and this means that part of it may be available for development.

"Many are eyeing the land. But it all depends on the Cabinet's decision as and when they meet to discuss the Istana Negara and its grounds issue," Public Works Department director Dr Amer Hamzah Mohd Yunus told Business Times.

"It is definitely a prime piece of land," Kong & Jaafar managing director Elvin Fernandez said.

"Certain portions should be retained to preserve the heritage of the Istana Negara and if there is room for selling a portion of excess land, it should be sold to show the value, amenity and the use of the land.

"I suggest that proposals be invited from parties interested in developing the land, asking them to showcase the best possible development for the land according to the parameters set by the authorities,"Elvin said. - sound good

He said the land should be put to best use that can also bring revenue to the Government," Elvin said.

He said if there is excess land and it is commercial land, then a small parcel of around 0.4ha should be able to bring in around RM1,000 per sq feet.

At a rate of RM1,000 per sq ft, a 0.4ha piece of land would bring in a whopping RM43.56 million.

Meanwhile, Badan Warisan Malaysia president Tan Sri Ahmad Sarji Abdul Hamid said the National Palace should be declared a national heritage. He said the National Palace could be converted into a museum depicting the history of the institution of the Yang di-Pertuan Agong.

Subangite · November 14th, 2006, 05:30 AM

what a waste of money! what's wrong with the current istana negara? Besides, the king already has the gigantic Istana Melawati in Putrajaya. This 400million is a lot of money!!

baqthier · November 14th, 2006, 06:23 AM

Cant wait for it to be built! One day i hope jalan duta will be one super extragavant area. But aiyo tear down those ugly 70s jkr buildings 1st!

acela · November 14th, 2006, 07:13 AM

good one.personally since the land has been gazzatted for the new istana then i don't see a problem building a new one.the older one can open to public in a form of public park rather than selling the land for property.i hope the old place will not become like places such as jalan duta as now they're opening new building and losing it's green charm along that area.i think a good public maybe we can take a model of british parks like st james' or regents park combining with a royale museum so that the public can at least learn and enjoy.

johnsonooi · November 14th, 2006, 07:25 AM

Some people have different opinions when they are looking at the same things. However, no offense here, building a new palace for the head of our country may seem as a need to replace the old palace; it may be also perceived as a waste of money for others too, depend on what angle you are viewing.

IMO, national palace is a private area for the royal families (ie bedroom...); it is also a public area for Malaysians (ie the royal garden). Besides, it also served as a meeting venue for the nation's VIP. The current palace is just a temporary when Malaya was just established. The government at Tunku Abdul Rahman Era planned to built a new palace at Jalan Duta but this had been postposned because of the emergency.

Nevertheless, I am agreed with Subangite, but not 100%

ZaHiRnYa??? · November 14th, 2006, 10:04 AM

hmm..the sun newspaper cited that the new palace will be completed in 2 years time...

OshHisham · December 18th, 2006, 04:49 AM

turning Istana Negara into 'raffles-style' a ROYAL PALACE HOTEL is not a bod idea huh? because for me..museum is a kind of boring place only for old 'makcik' tourists.

Skyprince · December 18th, 2006, 04:53 AM

Beta bersetuju dengan Subangite

Kenapa nak habiskan RM 400 juta wang rakyat ??

Lebih baik guna duit itu untuk membina lebuh raya di kawasan pedalaman ke, membasmi kemiskinan ke, memberi biasiswa kepada pelajar yang ingin masuk universiti ke.... kan lagi berfaedah...btol tak ? btol tak ?

Leeigh · December 18th, 2006, 05:36 AM

I kinda think that is is a big waste of money especially after they built Istana Melawati in Putrajaya, Subangite was right I have to say. They better turn the old istana into a money making machine...well if not that...a public place..why can't they just fix up and expand the old istana?

Blabbyboy · December 18th, 2006, 06:31 AM

Istana Negara is such an important institution to Malaysians...if it is not, then it should be...so how about a little more transparency to what is going on??? Where is the new site? Where are the plans or renders? Any photos? Whatever they do with the existing Istana, it (and the LAND) should NEVER be used for commercial purposes (eg hotel)...a museum or other institution open to the public would be a very suitable use IMHO.

Does anybody have any photos of the existing Istana? We all seem to know what the Istana looks like but I've never seen detailed photos of it.

OshHisham · December 18th, 2006, 06:45 AM

Istana interior plan is confidential and can't be publicized. so the contract for building it also have to be a closed-tender. the cost which i think seriously expensive is due to the land value in Jalan Duta which is not cheap. but why government doesn't just moved Agong to Melawati palace is questionable

dengilo · December 19th, 2006, 02:00 AM

Here we go again! Lets waste some malaysian tax ringgit !They dont care what the people think!Lets build more istanas ya of all places jalan duta then lets move back some of offices back here from putrajaya!Banyak pandai!

acela · December 19th, 2006, 02:53 AM

Why didn't the Agong move to istana melawati putrajaya?Same as why the queen of england didn't move out to windsor castle from buckingham.It has to do with the ceremonial at the parliament that's why.The duta area is near the parliment building as with the old istana negara.same as to buckingham palace is near to the westminster area or british parliament.Distance is the key.The MP's can wait for the Agong/Queen.

alsen · December 19th, 2006, 03:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Subangite

what a waste of money! what's wrong with the current istana negara? Besides, the king already has the gigantic Istana Melawati in Putrajaya. This 400million is a lot of money!!

well said.i hope the other sultans won't ask for new palace dah la.

Blabbyboy · December 19th, 2006, 04:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by acela

Why didn't the Agong move to istana melawati putrajaya?Same as why the queen of england didn't move out to windsor castle from buckingham.It has to do with the ceremonial at the parliament that's why.The duta area is near the parliment building as with the old istana negara.same as to buckingham palace is near to the westminster area or british parliament.Distance is the key.The MP's can wait for the Agong/Queen.

There must be an official residence in KL for visiting heads of state, etc. Where they actually stay is irrelevant. The Istana is usually a ceremonial building, which also contains apartments for the royal family. It is possible as an alternative to move the actual place that they live in to another location and just use the Istana for ceremonial purposes, freeing up room, and removing the need to build a whole new Istana. I think it's silly to say that the Istana's plans are secret, because it is a public and heritage building...there is no security risk involved...in fact, I'm surprised the Istana is not open for Open House at certain times of the year...(or is it?)

See info and pictures here: http://www.malaysianmonarchy.org.my/...bm/rk7/rk7.php

November 14th, 2006, 12:26 AM	#1
johnsonooi Proud to be Malaysian Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 805 Likes (Received): 19	New Istana Negara at Jalan Duta New RM400 Million Istana Negara Complex To Be Ready By 2009 KUALA LUMPUR, Nov 13 (Bernama) -- A new palace complex costing RM400 million in Jalan Duta will be built to replace the Istana Negara that has been used since 1928. Works Minister Datuk Seri S. Samy Vellu said work on the new Istana Negara to be built atop a hill on a 241.3-acre (96.52 hectares) site would start next June and slated for completion in 2009. "We need a new palace with larger space. Currently, the Balai Rong Seri of Istana Negara is also used for banquets and meetings. One room for multiple use is just inadequate," he told reporters at the ground-breaking ceremony for the new palace in Jalan Duta here, Monday. It was officiated by Yang di-Pertuan Agong Tuanku Syed Sirajuddin Syed Putra Jamalullail. Prime Minister Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi, his deputy Datuk Seri Najib Tun Razak and Cabinet members were also present. Samy Vellu said the new Istana Negara steeped in Islamic and Malay architectural designs had been on the drawing board since nine months ago. "It will not be the largest palace as there are larger ones around, but will be one suitable for a country like Malaysia," he added. He said the fate of the present Istana Negara would be determined by the Prime Minister's Department. Bernama has been made to understand that it had been proposed as a royal museum. Kumpulan Seni Reka Sdn Bhd has been appointed architect for the new palace with Maya Maju Sdn Bhd the building contractor. Samy Vellu said the site for the new palace had been gazetted for the purpose 30 years ago. -- BERNAMA

November 14th, 2006, 02:56 AM	#5
forrestcat Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Adelaide--Multiculturalization Capital Posts: 1,831 Likes (Received): 0	I hope they relegate the palace to more public functions rather than a place solely for the King.It's good that at least the park around it would be open to the public. __________________ VISIT MALAYSIA 2007 MULTICULTURALIZATION CAPITAL-KUALA LUMPUR http://www.tourism.gov.my/

November 14th, 2006, 03:14 AM	#6
pedang One Malaysia Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Lembah Klang Posts: 2,872 Likes (Received): 1	Cabinet to decide on future of prime palace land By Presenna Nambiar presenna@nstp.com.my November 14 2006 THE Cabinet will decide on the future of a large piece of land that houses the existing National Palace, an area with huge development potential that is eyed by many developers. The National Palace is to be moved from its current location on Syed Putra Road to a 97.65-hectare piece of gazetted land in the Jalan Duta area. There are plans for the existing palace to be a Royal Museum but this needs to be approved by the Cabinet. The palace sits on some 11ha of land and this means that part of it may be available for development. "Many are eyeing the land. But it all depends on the Cabinet's decision as and when they meet to discuss the Istana Negara and its grounds issue," Public Works Department director Dr Amer Hamzah Mohd Yunus told Business Times. "It is definitely a prime piece of land," Kong & Jaafar managing director Elvin Fernandez said. "Certain portions should be retained to preserve the heritage of the Istana Negara and if there is room for selling a portion of excess land, it should be sold to show the value, amenity and the use of the land. "I suggest that proposals be invited from parties interested in developing the land, asking them to showcase the best possible development for the land according to the parameters set by the authorities,"Elvin said. - sound good He said the land should be put to best use that can also bring revenue to the Government," Elvin said. He said if there is excess land and it is commercial land, then a small parcel of around 0.4ha should be able to bring in around RM1,000 per sq feet. At a rate of RM1,000 per sq ft, a 0.4ha piece of land would bring in a whopping RM43.56 million. Meanwhile, Badan Warisan Malaysia president Tan Sri Ahmad Sarji Abdul Hamid said the National Palace should be declared a national heritage. He said the National Palace could be converted into a museum depicting the history of the institution of the Yang di-Pertuan Agong. __________________ ONE MALAYSIA

November 14th, 2006, 05:30 AM	#7
Subangite Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: behind you Posts: 1,005 Likes (Received): 0	what a waste of money! what's wrong with the current istana negara? Besides, the king already has the gigantic Istana Melawati in Putrajaya. This 400million is a lot of money!! __________________ Imagination is more important than knowledge. ~ Albert Einstein

November 14th, 2006, 06:23 AM	#8
baqthier RISING LIKE A SPIRE! Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Land of The Petronas Towers Posts: 6,304 Likes (Received): 1	Cant wait for it to be built! One day i hope jalan duta will be one super extragavant area. But aiyo tear down those ugly 70s jkr buildings 1st! __________________ Whatever lah! *7 YEARS OF THE MALAYSIAN FORUM Since 22nd Dec, 2002* - Kuala Lumpur Sky - Penang Sky

November 14th, 2006, 12:27 AM	#2
johnsonooi Proud to be Malaysian Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 805 Likes (Received): 19	Anyone has the rendering of the new complex?

November 14th, 2006, 02:03 AM	#3
blurangel Blur Angel In The Sky Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 48 Likes (Received): 0	Hi Johnsonooi, Go to this website and you will be able to take a look at the scale model.... http://www.thestar.com.my/news/story...167&sec=nation although its a little bit small....

November 14th, 2006, 02:47 AM	#4
Yee Haa Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 168 Likes (Received): 0	Hope this won't take more than 10 years to built & cost won't over run like Matrade..

November 14th, 2006, 07:13 AM	#9
acela Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 100 Likes (Received): 0	good one.personally since the land has been gazzatted for the new istana then i don't see a problem building a new one.the older one can open to public in a form of public park rather than selling the land for property.i hope the old place will not become like places such as jalan duta as now they're opening new building and losing it's green charm along that area.i think a good public maybe we can take a model of british parks like st james' or regents park combining with a royale museum so that the public can at least learn and enjoy.

November 14th, 2006, 07:25 AM	#10
johnsonooi Proud to be Malaysian Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 805 Likes (Received): 19	Some people have different opinions when they are looking at the same things. However, no offense here, building a new palace for the head of our country may seem as a need to replace the old palace; it may be also perceived as a waste of money for others too, depend on what angle you are viewing. IMO, national palace is a private area for the royal families (ie bedroom...); it is also a public area for Malaysians (ie the royal garden). Besides, it also served as a meeting venue for the nation's VIP. The current palace is just a temporary when Malaya was just established. The government at Tunku Abdul Rahman Era planned to built a new palace at Jalan Duta but this had been postposned because of the emergency. Nevertheless, I am agreed with Subangite, but not 100% Last edited by johnsonooi; November 14th, 2006 at 01:52 PM.

November 14th, 2006, 10:04 AM	#11
ZaHiRnYa??? you are you and i am me.. Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Kuala Lumpur Posts: 5,820 Likes (Received): 1	hmm..the sun newspaper cited that the new palace will be completed in 2 years time... __________________ me, me, me and more me.. he..he...

December 18th, 2006, 04:49 AM	#12
OshHisham BANNED Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Damansara Kim Posts: 3,647 Likes (Received): 0	turning Istana Negara into 'raffles-style' a ROYAL PALACE HOTEL is not a bod idea huh? because for me..museum is a kind of boring place only for old 'makcik' tourists.

December 18th, 2006, 04:53 AM	#13
Skyprince Asian boi Join Date: May 2006 Location: Kuala Lumpur Posts: 7,564	Beta bersetuju dengan Subangite Kenapa nak habiskan RM 400 juta wang rakyat ?? Lebih baik guna duit itu untuk membina lebuh raya di kawasan pedalaman ke, membasmi kemiskinan ke, memberi biasiswa kepada pelajar yang ingin masuk universiti ke.... kan lagi berfaedah...btol tak ? btol tak ?

December 18th, 2006, 05:36 AM	#14
Leeigh Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: MIAMI Posts: 512 Likes (Received): 0	I kinda think that is is a big waste of money especially after they built Istana Melawati in Putrajaya, Subangite was right I have to say. They better turn the old istana into a money making machine...well if not that...a public place..why can't they just fix up and expand the old istana?

December 18th, 2006, 06:31 AM	#15
Blabbyboy Melbourne Zealot Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 1,356 Likes (Received): 0	Istana Negara is such an important institution to Malaysians...if it is not, then it should be...so how about a little more transparency to what is going on??? Where is the new site? Where are the plans or renders? Any photos? Whatever they do with the existing Istana, it (and the LAND) should NEVER be used for commercial purposes (eg hotel)...a museum or other institution open to the public would be a very suitable use IMHO. Does anybody have any photos of the existing Istana? We all seem to know what the Istana looks like but I've never seen detailed photos of it. __________________ Melbourne - "If I tell you I'm good, you'll think I'm bragging. If I tell you I'm not good, you know that I'm lying." Bruce Lee

December 18th, 2006, 06:45 AM	#16
OshHisham BANNED Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Damansara Kim Posts: 3,647 Likes (Received): 0	Istana interior plan is confidential and can't be publicized. so the contract for building it also have to be a closed-tender. the cost which i think seriously expensive is due to the land value in Jalan Duta which is not cheap. but why government doesn't just moved Agong to Melawati palace is questionable

December 19th, 2006, 02:00 AM	#17
dengilo Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 5,934 Likes (Received): 149	Here we go again! Lets waste some malaysian tax ringgit !They dont care what the people think!Lets build more istanas ya of all places jalan duta then lets move back some of offices back here from putrajaya!Banyak pandai!

December 19th, 2006, 02:53 AM	#18
acela Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 100 Likes (Received): 0	Why didn't the Agong move to istana melawati putrajaya?Same as why the queen of england didn't move out to windsor castle from buckingham.It has to do with the ceremonial at the parliament that's why.The duta area is near the parliment building as with the old istana negara.same as to buckingham palace is near to the westminster area or british parliament.Distance is the key.The MP's can wait for the Agong/Queen.

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