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Old September 8th, 2010, 04:10 AM   #121
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yeah they did plan a very cool-looking 650 ft residential tower at Copley Place, though it's been delayed due to the recession
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Old September 8th, 2010, 05:51 AM   #122
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hmm i never thought id see a supertall in boston!
this thing looks more like 400+ in boston
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Old September 10th, 2010, 05:13 AM   #123
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U still might not ever see a supertall in boston
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Old June 29th, 2012, 11:38 PM   #124
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115 Federal back on???

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It's on like Donkey Kong, who might end up climbing it one day. Credit-card kingpin Steve Belkin has resurrected plans to build what could be Boston's tallest tower. Recall, Belkin was the lone bidder in November 2006 for the city-owned parcel at 115 Federal Street in the Financial District (or whatever we'll end up calling it) and he already owned an adjacent parcel at 133 Federal. He pitched a 1,000-foot tower that would easily have been the city's—New England's—tallest (above is a rendering of the would-be Renzo Piano-designed sprout). Then the FAA said um... because the tower might interfere with jets at Logan; and then the Great Recession slammed the financing window.

But now Belkin's back. According to The Globe's Casey Ross, Belkin has met with city officials in recent weeks to discuss his plans, which remain shrouded largely in glassy mystery. We do know that now is the time to think hard-hats and cranes in prime Boston. The Millennium Tower announcement of earlier this month put a kind of exclamation point on a wave of new big-time construction in the city. Every other day seems to bring a new groundbreaking (yesterday it was Waterside Place in the Seaport). If Belkin can nail financing, it's unlikely his tower can't get under way this time.

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Old June 30th, 2012, 12:08 AM   #125
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Holy shit, sorry for the profanity but a supertall for Boston!?

AWESOME
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Old June 30th, 2012, 02:20 AM   #126
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looks awesome, reminds me a little of the original freedom tower proposal



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Old June 30th, 2012, 02:30 AM   #127
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I hope it gets built. It's beautiful.
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Old June 30th, 2012, 04:19 PM   #128
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very nice. let's hope for the best
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Old July 1st, 2012, 03:37 AM   #129
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Boston and Cambridge together probably have more commercial projects under construction than any US City other than New York. A super-tall would be a long overdue addition. Fingers crossed!
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Old July 3rd, 2012, 07:01 AM   #130
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I hope it gets built. It's beautiful.
Agreed. This is a very pretty building.
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Old August 7th, 2012, 01:33 AM   #131
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The recent revival of Steve Belkin's proposal for Boston's tallest skyscraper raises an interesting question, with a complicated answer: Who regulates the heights of buildings in Boston?

As you may recall, Belkin's proposal came in response to a Request for Proposals for the redevelopment of a city-owned garage in Winthrop Square, issued in 2006. At the time Mayor Menino challenged developers to propose an ambitious tower that would become Boston's tallest, rising at least 1,000 feet. Belkin, who controls an adjacent property, responded with an ambitious proposal for a 75-story office tower designed by starchitect Renzo Piano, which would be environmetally friendly and include public space at ground level, topped by a roof garden.

Reality set in when the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA), which controls sensitive airspace near airports, vetoed the plan on account of its interference with the flight paths to Logan. This effectively killed the mayor's dream of a tower rising to 1,000 feet or more at this location.

Thus we arrive at the question: Who regulates the heights of buildings in Boston? The answer is not simple. All power to regulate land use, including building heights, originates from the state, which over time has allocated some powers down to local governments or up to the feds. Over the years, the Commonwealth of Massachusetts has allocated the power to zone, plan, and redevelop to local governments through legislation such as the Enabling Act, M.G.L. (Massachusetts General Law) Chapter 121A, and Chapter 652 of the Acts of 1960 (consolidating planning and zoning powers in the Boston Redevelopment Authority).

At the same time, the state has allocated some land-use control in Boston to a number of state agencies and quasi-public authorities such as Massport (control of Boston's seaport and airport); the State Department of Environmental Protection (control of waterways, Boston Harbor, filled tidelands); the Department of Conservation and Recreation (control of the Boston Harbor islands, Charles River Basin, the Neoponset River, and Mystic River); and the MBTA and MassDOT (control over rail and highway property, facilities and air rights). In some cases the state has allocated authority over land use to the federal government as well.

This complex web of overlapping authority over land use is what led to the misunderstandings which doomed the mayor's plan for a tower rising 1,000 feet into airspace above the city. Title 14 of the Code of Federal Regulations CFR Part 77 gives the FAA the power to restrict the height of structures that may serve as a hazard to air travel. The FAA has traditionally relied upon MassPort, the quasi-public authority that controls Logan Airport, to assist them in their administration of this authority. In the aftermath of the mayor's doomed initiative, Massport moved to clarify the issue with a set of general guidelines for city officials and developers mapping the sensitive airspace around Logan with height guidelines.

To further complicate the issue, the state legislature has preempted local authority over building heights in Boston on a number of occasions, inserting provisions directly into the zoning code by statute. In 1990, state legislation was enacted to prohibit the approval of any new structures which cast shadows for most of the day on the Boston Common, and additional legislation added the Public Garden in 1992 (1990 MA Acts Ch. 362 & 1992 MA Acts Ch. 384). More recently, legislation was proposed by Massachusetts Senators Byron Rushing, Marty Waltz and Anthony Petruccelli which would restrict any buildings from casting shadows on the Commonwealth Avenue Mall, Charles River Esplanade, Copley Square, and parts of the Rose Kennedy Greenway. Not surprisingly Mayor Menino wasn't a big fan of the legislation, preferring to address concerns about shadows "through the planning process of the Boston Redevelopment Authority."

Who regulates the heights of buildings in Boston? The answer lies in a complicated web of intergovernmental authorities at the state, local and federal level, prone to misunderstanding, lawsuit, judicial review, and legislation. Any questions? — A. Contributor

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Old August 7th, 2012, 05:35 AM   #132
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Disgusting, get rid of all height limits now
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Old August 7th, 2012, 11:47 PM   #133
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These height limits are there for safety reasons.
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Old August 7th, 2012, 11:49 PM   #134
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Disgusting, get rid of all height limits now
Airline and building safety inspectors say "Hi!"
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Old August 8th, 2012, 12:21 AM   #135
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These height limits are there for safety reasons.

Logan airport is still far enough outside the city to build a building taller than Bostons current tallest. If he really wants to build a new tallest he could try to find a different site on the other side of the city farther away from the airport too.
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Old February 25th, 2013, 09:11 PM   #136
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Closing A Chapter: The 1,000-Foot FiDi Skyscraper Designed by Renzo Piano


Renzo Piano's design for a supertall at 115 Federal St. Piano is no longer associated with the development.

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With the news last week that Boston Properties is floating a plan for a new Back Bay skyscraper as high as 50 floors, we decided to take a look back at an idea last decade to build many, many times higher than that.

The idea belonged to Steve Belkin, a credit-card kingpin with little development experience who was the lone bidder in November 2006 for the city-owned parcel at 115 Federal Street in the Financial District (he already owned an adjacent parcel at 133 Federal). He pitched a 1,000-foot tower that would easily have been New England's tallest; and he even enlisted renowned architect Renzo Piano to design it (above is a rendering of the would-be Piano tower against the Boston skyline). The size of the tower swelled to around 1.7 million square feet and as high as 80 floors (20 more than the Hancock), though there were plans, too, for slightly smaller versions.

In the end, no versions took. A combination of the Great Recession and FAA skittishness over the tower's height vis-a-vis Logan Airport (plus Piano's exit from the project) doomed the idea, even though it had formidable City Hall support. Belkin, however, has recently reached out to the powers that be about giving it another go on Federal Street, though a 1,000-footer seems a tall order still.

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Hanging by a thread, 115 Federal may yet be built but the likelihood of it being a supertall is frozen in bickering between the developer, the Mayor, the City, the FAA and Massport...
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Old February 26th, 2013, 05:59 AM   #137
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All the good designs get cancelled...really aggravating.
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Old February 26th, 2013, 06:42 AM   #138
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Yeah, its rather unfortunate that all parties couldn't get together on this one.
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Old February 26th, 2013, 01:51 PM   #139
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Why don't they just get rid of that spire, which is just a needless obstacle for air traffic?
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Old February 26th, 2013, 04:08 PM   #140
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Man, seeing Piano's proposed "design" for this tower and knowing what a shit job he did on the proposed Triple One tower in Seoul makes me really think poorly of him.
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