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Old February 26th, 2013, 07:11 PM   #141
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They should never have allowed skyscrapers to be build in Bostons citycentre. It is a historical city that should have been treatened like the European cities. Skyscrapers outside the center.
We can't turn back time but it sure as hell is a pitty. You can find cities with large buildings in them all across America. But where can you find Cities that kept their historical appearance.

Savannah, New Orleans,... Are there any others?
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Old February 26th, 2013, 09:13 PM   #142
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You do still find sections of historical architecture in Boston, just not in the heart of downtown. Now that I think of it, actually, the whole stretch of the city between the Commons and BU is fairly old (aside from the Copley Square area).

And although there were of course other factors involved in it becoming so, Boston is a major regional and fairly important global city; there's long been demand in the city for tall buildings that, if left unsatisfied, might have made it less of a city than it is. At the same time, there wasn't demand at the right time ('20's and '30's) for Boston to have the sort of historic and iconic architecture that New York does, which is of a scale that it doesn't need to be torn down to satisfy demand, at least for the forseeable future.
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Old February 27th, 2013, 08:31 AM   #143
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They should never have allowed skyscrapers to be build in Bostons citycentre. It is a historical city that should have been treatened like the European cities. Skyscrapers outside the center.
We can't turn back time but it sure as hell is a pitty. You can find cities with large buildings in them all across America. But where can you find Cities that kept their historical appearance.

Savannah, New Orleans,... Are there any others?
New Orleans historical areas was severely damaged thanks to Hurricane Katrina, and to a lesser extent from Isaac last year.

That being said, the architecture culture is not the same in Europe as it is in the United States.
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Old February 28th, 2013, 01:41 PM   #144
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Boston can't even get a 500 foot tower built, so the pipe dream of this was kinda laughable.
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Old February 28th, 2013, 09:42 PM   #145
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They should never have allowed skyscrapers to be build in Bostons citycentre. It is a historical city that should have been treatened like the European cities. Skyscrapers outside the center.
We can't turn back time but it sure as hell is a pitty. You can find cities with large buildings in them all across America. But where can you find Cities that kept their historical appearance.

Savannah, New Orleans,... Are there any others?
I agree,thankfully Boston still has plenty of central areas that are mostly untouched and lovely. The North End, much of the Back Bay, South End, Beacon Hill, parts of the old downtown. The financial district and some areas around it did suffer from ugly redevelopment.
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Old May 6th, 2014, 09:19 PM   #146
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Ginormous Financial District Tower Maybe Probably On Again



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It's one of the biggest what-ifs in recent Boston real estate: a 1,000-foot tower off Federal Street in the Financial District on the site of a city garage and an adjoining building (the original design by Italian starchitect Renzo Piano is rendered above). Pitched by would-be developer Steven Belkin in those prelapsarian days of 2006 and 2007, it would have easily been the tallest tower in Boston—in all of New England—but the Federal Aviation Administration said it was a little too tall for Logan and, besides, the Great Recession came and put the kibosh on any of Belkin's—and the city's—ambitions.

Then! In the summer of 2012 came news that Belkin was meeting with officials in the Menino administration about building at the garage site and at his adjacent building at 133 Federal. Building what exactly, nobody seemed to know. But building something, it certainly looked like. The climate, especially financing-wise, had shifted markedly; and Boston was nothing if not a city of potential spires.

Yet nothing happened and the Menino administration passed into history at the end of 2013 as development around town picked up even more. Now! It looks like Mayor Marty Walsh wants to plunk something formidable between Federal and Devonshire, and his administration is in fresh talks with Belkin.

Per Thomas Grillo at the Boston Business Journal, Hizzoner has set aside monies to demolish the 435-space garage on Devonshire Street. Plus: "We will take the garage down and begin the process of looking for somebody. There was some interest in it in the past and we've reached out to that developer [Belkin] to see if they are still interested ... I believe he still is."

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Old May 6th, 2014, 09:41 PM   #147
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Just not that design. Please. If Boston is going to have a new, unlikely-to-be-surpassed-for-a-long-time-tallest building, make it more than a box with a stick stuck on it. Nothing Dubai/China crazy, but something interesting.
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Just not that design. Please. If Boston is going to have a new, unlikely-to-be-surpassed-for-a-long-time-tallest building, make it more than a box with a stick stuck on it. Nothing Dubai/China crazy, but something interesting.
It's very likely that anything built there will be shorter to appease the tyrannical FAA so a design change seems inevitable...
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Old May 6th, 2014, 11:13 PM   #149
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ah, the old maybe probably.
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Old May 7th, 2014, 01:06 AM   #150
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It's very likely that anything built there will be shorter to appease the tyrannical FAA so a design change seems inevitable...
Well ya never know, San Fran managed to get a 1070 foot building built, Miami also has a really FAA rules and will likely see three supertalls in the near future.

One for Boston would be awesome!
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I like the design. Classy, not gaudy, not showy. I fits in nicely with Boston's skyline. I'm glad there's news after a year of quiet.
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Old May 7th, 2014, 04:56 AM   #152
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Luckily, that design is the old one and will not be what is built.

I'm dying to see a ~925' reflecting glass tower here, something sleek. I'm thinking maybe the world's tallest obelisk. The very top can be brightly lit, with a bar/restaurant/observation deck beneath. Oh, I have been dreaming of this one for a while.....
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Old May 7th, 2014, 01:52 PM   #153
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I agree. Supertall would be great, but I think Bostons skyline could use some glass.

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Old September 25th, 2014, 10:39 PM   #154
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111 Federal St. Promises To Boost Skyline



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Remember that gigantic tower slated late last decade for sites on Federal Street in the Financial District? The one stretching to 1,000 feet and designed by starchitect Renzo Piano? It's not gonna happen. But something damn near close might. The Globe's Casey Ross drops the news this morning that Steven Belkin, who controls sites at Nos. 115 and 133 Federal, has resurrected plans for what would be one of Boston's tallest buildings, period, as well as the second tallest of the new crop of spires popping up.

The 740-foot tower, to be called 111 Federal Street after the city-owned parking lot there, "would contain a wider range of uses, including a 300-room hotel, retail space, offices, and possibly 150 condominiums on the upper floors." Big caveat, though: Belkin hasn't made up his mind whether to include the condos—we think he will—and without those 111 Federal will stretch to 650 feet. If it goes to 740 feet, the tower will be the tallest of the new wave of towers being built.

Belkin would like to start construction next fall, and he told Ross that he's already in talks with an anchor tenant for the office space.


Renzo Piano's original FAA-baiting, Mayor Menino-hating 1,000 ft. 115 Federal tower:

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Old September 26th, 2014, 03:23 AM   #155
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Well, that is something of a disappointment, but it will still be a great addition to the Boston skyline.
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The Walsh administration is fielding new redevelopment proposals for the shuttered, city-owned Winthrop Square garage in the Financial District, where former Mayor Thomas M. Menino once envisioned a legacy-building, 1,000-foot tower that would be the city’s tallest.

The Boston Redevelopment Authority has issued a request for interest from developers after Trans National Group owner Steve Belkin — who originally planned to tackle that 1,000-foot tower back in 2006 — had reopened talks with the city about a scaled-down project. His latest proposal is a 740-foot tower that would incorporate his adjacent Federal Street property and include a 300-room hotel, offices, retail space and possibly condos. Belkin plans to respond with a proposal akin to that and said he’s confident his project would provide the “best urban planning solution.”

“Trans National Properties (TNP) is a critically important strategic abutter to the Winthrop Square Garage and the only developer who can create an iconic mixed-use office and residential tower by integrating this site with our existing building at 133 Federal St.,” Belkin said in a statement yesterday. “Our project will be able to move forward more rapidly than any other project as a result of the extensive work we have done and the materials that have already been developed.”

The city decided a new, formal search for a developer was warranted, according to BRA chief of staff Heather Campisano. The BRA solicited developer interest in 2006, and Belkin was the only respondent. The BRA board voted in 2007 to recommend the city designate Belkin as the developer, but the city never took formal action; the proposed tower height ran afoul of the Federal Aviation Administration, the Great Recession hit and Belkin shelved his plans.

“The market is obviously very strong right now,” Campisano said. “We put it out there, and we’ll see what comes back.” The city is looking to “create a project of significance with a mix of uses that will further anchor the Financial District,” according to the request for interest.

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Great! Now all they need to try and do is revive the South Station tower development idea and the Financial District will be really booming.
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Nice!

Is 740' a limit imposed by the FAA or could they go higher?
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Is 740' a limit imposed by the FAA or could they go higher?
It's a compromise by the former developer. The FAA objected to the original tower's height due to the proximity of Logan Airport to downtown. When Mayor Menino championed that proposal early, he might have swayed the FAA and MassPort but after his falling out with the developers, the supertall died and the FAA came in with a thumbs down verdict.

Marty Walsh is unlikely to challenge any FAA decision although a new proposal might go a bit higher.

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Ah I see, thanks, but they can't at least add a ~60 foot crown and make it the tallest in the city?

Hard to believe that would not be doable.
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