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Old September 16th, 2007, 07:04 AM   #181
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Now we just need Bush to approve it.
Oh? Must he go to some Wilshire-subway training course beforehand?! What a joke!
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Old September 16th, 2007, 08:04 AM   #182
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No, the language for lifting the ban is a part of a federal budget. If Bush doesn't like the budget, then that part goes out along with the whole thing.
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Old September 16th, 2007, 09:08 AM   #183
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I'd need to see a map; clearly a line through Echo Park and Silver Lake is a good idea, but I'm having a hard time visualizing how it would connect to Hollywood and either SM or Sunset Blvds. Also, given the Red and (hopefully eventually) the Purple Lines, I'm not sure adding more lines in that section of the city needs to be such a high priority. Not counting things already in production, after the Purple Line, I think it's probably most important to build the Silver Line (as you mentioned) and figure out something to do with Crenshaw, and to extend the existing lines: the Green to Norwalk and Westchester (via LAX), the Red or Orange to Burbank Airport, the Blue/Expo to Union Station, and the Gold out toward Ontario. One other thing that I haven't seen proposed: it would be awesome for the Blue Line, after the Downtown Connector is built, to continue along Valley Blvd. to serve Cal State LA and, after that, Alhambra and San Gabriel. After that, we can worry about thickening the network in Hollywood and elsewhere...
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Old September 16th, 2007, 10:46 AM   #184
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I'd need to see a map; clearly a line through Echo Park and Silver Lake is a good idea, but I'm having a hard time visualizing how it would connect to Hollywood and either SM or Sunset Blvds.
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Old September 16th, 2007, 01:27 PM   #185
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Wouldn't it make more sense for it to head toward Atwater Village and Glendale?

(Not that any of this discussion makes any difference anyway, but it's fun to talk about!)
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Old September 16th, 2007, 06:03 PM   #186
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If Bush doesn't like the budget
Oh, I get it: It's a personal thing down there. Hmmph, America's joke still stands

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Old September 16th, 2007, 08:03 PM   #187
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You must know nothing about politics then.

Codfish, that might be a possibility, I hadn't even thought of it before. It seems like a really good idea.
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Old September 17th, 2007, 06:50 PM   #188
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Hmmph, there mustn't be much worthwhile knowing about American politics if that's how approval be ultimately sought for one of that country's major mass-transit lines . . .
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Old September 18th, 2007, 07:25 AM   #189
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Well, congress allowed it to be that way by banning tunneling for a while.
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Old September 28th, 2007, 01:59 AM   #190
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Metro is now planning for extending the subway all the way to Santa Monica.

www.metro.net/westside

Give them your input and tell them that you think that heavy rail is the best way to go.
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Old September 28th, 2007, 02:43 AM   #191
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So is this study being conducted to find an alternative route(s) to the Purple Line? Or is this an entirely seperate extension proposal?

Either way, it sounds so exciting! To think that my dream of extending the Red Line into parts of WeHo and BH may one day become a reality is just mind-blowing!
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Old September 28th, 2007, 05:11 AM   #192
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This is the main study for the subway. It has to study alternatives for the LPA and then from there they can draft the EIS and EIR. Metro is really on this now and I don't think that they will let it slip by their fingers this time.

I've heard that a ballot measure may be put forward in the Nov. 2008 ballot for another tax so we may be able to pay for this. Hopefully we will finally raise the gas tax.
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Old October 6th, 2007, 08:30 AM   #193
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Crenshaw/Prairie Transit Corridor Study

Overview

Background

Metro is preparing an Alternative Analysis (AA), Environmental Impact Report/Environmental Impact Statement (EIR/EIS), in compliance with the California Environmental Quality Act (CEQA) and the National Environmental Policy Act (NEPA) for the Crenshaw-Prairie Transit Corridor, which extends approximately 10 miles from Wilshire Boulevard on the north to El Segundo Boulevard on the south.

The project purpose is to improve public transit service and mobility in the Crenshaw-Prairie Corridor between Wilshire and El Segundo Boulevards. The overall goal of the proposed project is to improve mobility in the corridor by connecting with existing lines such as the Metro Green Line or approved transit lines such as the Exposition Light Rail Transit (LRT) (under construction). Mobility issues in the corridor have been well documented in many studies, including the Crenshaw-Prairie Corridor Preliminary Planning Study (1994), the Route Refinement Study (2000), the Major Investment Study (MIS) (2003), and the 2004 Regional Transportation Plan.

Project Area

The corridor within the study area has a north-south orientation and includes five jurisdictions: the Cities of Los Angeles, Inglewood, Hawthorne, El Segundo, as well as portions of unincorporated County of Los Angeles. The corridor study area is generally defined as the area extending north to Wilshire Boulevard, east to Arlington Avenue, south to El Segundo Boulevard, and west to Sepulveda and La Tijera Boulevards. A variety of land uses exist along the corridor including residences, religious institutions and commercial property, north of Interstate 10 (I-10) and south of Slauson Avenue, industrial and public land uses in Inglewood and El Segundo, as well as redevelopment areas in Los Angeles, Inglewood, and Hawthorne.

In addition to a No-Build Alternative, a range of reasonable alternatives will be evaluated including, but not limited to: alternative transit technologies, alignments/routes, service branches, station locations, and a Transportation Systems Management (TSM) Alternative. The TSM alternative enhances the No-Build Alternative and emphasizes transportation system upgrades, such as bus route restructuring, shortened bus headways, expanded use of articulated buses, reserved bus lanes, expanded park/ride facilities, express and limited-stop service, signalization improvements, and timed-transfer operations.

The transit technologies to be evaluated will include Bus Rapid Transit (BRT), Light Rail Transit (LRT), and others identified during scoping for the project. In addition to the alternative technologies, two different BRT and LRT alignment alternatives have been identified for initial consideration. One alignment alternative provides for a BRT or LRT line operating south from Wilshire Boulevard or the Exposition LRT Line (under construction), along Crenshaw Boulevard through Koreatown, the Crenshaw District, and downtown Inglewood on the Metro-owned Harbor Subdivision railroad right-of-way, where the Burlington Northern Santa Fe (BNSF) Railway operates some freight service, continuing to the Metro Green Line Aviation Station. A transfer connection would be provided to LAX from the Aviation Station.

A second alignment alternative provides for operation of a BRT or LRT line south from Wilshire Boulevard or the Exposition LRT line along Crenshaw Boulevard to the Harbor Subdivision railroad right-of-way. The BRT Alternative would then operate along the Harbor Subdivision railroad right-of-way to La Brea Avenue, where it would turn southward to Hawthorne Boulevard and terminate at El Segundo Boulevard. The LRT Alternative would operate along the Harbor Subdivision railroad right-of-way south to Prairie Avenue, then turn west to connect with the Metro Green Line Hawthorne Station along the I-105 Freeway and south on Hawthorne Boulevard to El Segundo Boulevard. In addition to these alignment alternatives, other alternatives may be identified during project scoping.


Project Map: http://www.metro.net/projects_progra...p_crenshaw.pdf

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Old October 6th, 2007, 08:35 AM   #194
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So we now have both the Westside Extension and Crenshaw/Prairie Transit Corridor Studies underway!

Now we just need to secure funding for Phase 2 of the Expo Line and then start considering possible routes for a 405/Sepulveda Line!
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Old October 8th, 2007, 01:47 AM   #195
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We can start thinking about that when we get money for the Wilshire Subway. Although it's never too early, we need that as soon as possible too.
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Old October 8th, 2007, 09:46 AM   #196
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I've heard nobody checks the ticket in LA Metro.
Is it true?
If so, why people bother purchasing the ticket?
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Old October 8th, 2007, 07:19 PM   #197
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I've been checked once, only once. Metro is considering installing fare gates.
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Regional Connector Transit Corridor Study

Overview

Metro has initiated an Alternatives Analysis (AA) to study alternatives for connecting the Metro Gold, Blue, and Expo lines through downtown Los Angeles. This study will examine linking the future Metro Gold Line Eastside Extension (in the vicinity of the Little Tokyo/Arts District Station) and the 7th Street/Metro Center Station (the terminus for the Metro Blue Line and future Expo Line).

Given the continued expansion and success of the Metro Rail system, the preliminary goals of this project are to:
  • Accommodate expected ridership increases due to the opening of the Metro Gold Line Eastside Extension (2009) and the Metro Expo Line (2010)
  • Support the resurgence of downtown Los Angeles as a business, cultural and residential hub
  • Improve mobility throughout the region
  • Increase utilization of all rail lines
Initial transit alternatives to be considered in the AA will vary by mode, alignment, configuration, and station location. The analysis will include a public participation process and be consistent with CEQA/NEPA guidelines and Federal New Starts requirements.

The study area will encompass approximately two square miles of downtown Los Angeles and will include the communities of Little Tokyo, the Arts District, the Historic Core, the Toy District, Bunker Hill, the Financial Core, the Jewelry District, and the Civic Center. Project area map.

Meetings

Early environmental scoping meetings have been scheduled to provide the public with the opportunity to comment on the scope of the Alternatives Analysis (AA):

Tuesday, November 6, 2007
11:30am -1:30pm
Central Library, Meeting Room A
630 W. 5th St., Los Angeles, CA 90071

Wednesday, November 7, 2007
6:00-8:00pm
Japanese America National Museum
369 E. First St., Los Angeles, CA 90012

Comments may also be submitted via phone, mail, or email. Visit Contact Us for more information. All comments must be received by the end of the early scoping period, Nov. 21, 2007.

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The pieces of the puzzle are starting to fit together!
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Gold Line add-on studied
Train extension sought from Montclair to Ontario Airport
Fred Ortega, Staff Writer
Article Launched: 10/12/2007 10:18:24 PM PDT


Commuters might soon be able to use a train to catch a plane, if a study endorsed by Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa leads to funds to pay for an extension of the Metro Gold Line.
Current plans call for extending the line from Pasadena to Montclair.

The study, which is funded with $500,000 from the Southern California Association of Governments and the San Bernardino Associated Governments, will examine extending the end of the line from Montclair to the Ontario International Airport.

It will take 12 to 16 months and include community and government representatives from Ontario, Upland and Rancho Cucamonga, said Metro Foothill Gold Line Construction Authority spokeswoman Susan Hodor. The study will also involve public meetings to determine possible routes the light rail line would take to the airport.

Providing rail service to the Ontario Airport would accomplish Villaraigosa's goal of regionalizing airport services and relieving congestion around LAX, said the mayor's spokesman, Darryl Ryan.

"We want to make sure residents of Los Angeles and all over the country have transportation alternatives," said Ryan. "Extending the Gold Line to Montclair is important in that aspect."


Villaraigosa's support for the Gold Line extension is a departure from the mayor's past focus on transportation projects centered in Los Angeles, including the proposed "Subway to the Sea," said local officials.

"I see it as a definite warming up to the Gold Line and the benefits it will provide," said Duarte Councilman John Fasana, a member of the Metropolitan Transportation Authority Board.

Support for the project from Villaraigosa gives the project some leverage, said Habib Balian, CEO of the Metro Gold Line Foothill Extension Construction Authority.

"What MTA Board members are beginning to understand is that this is the only project ready to go in the county," said Balian, noting that the Gold Line extension's environmental studies have been completed and that the authority already owns the right-of-way for the project. "We can virtually be under construction a year from now."

But Villaraigosa's public support has to be followed up by tangible results - like MTA approval of $8 million a year to cover the line's operating expenses - in order to give the project a chance to become reality, said Fasana.

"That is a necessary step in order for (Gold Line officials) to pursue federal funding," said Fasana.

A decision about including that funding in the MTA's long-range plan should be reached by next spring, said Fasana.

Metro Gold Line officials plan on requesting hundreds of millions of dollars in federal funds next year to kick off the first stage of the more than $1 billion project. If that money comes through, construction could begin next year and be completed by 2014.

Despite its distance from Los Angeles, the Gold Line extension could have major benefits for the city, said Michael Cano, transportation deputy for L.A. County Supervisor Michael Antonovich.

"This could be a de facto traffic relief program around LAX and the Westside by expanding transit to Ontario Airport," Cano said. "There is definitely a relationship there, and it seems the city of Los Angeles is beginning to realize that."
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