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Old March 14th, 2016, 04:12 AM   #2081
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Its frustrating that they don't publish a larger map...
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Old March 14th, 2016, 04:40 AM   #2082
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Can't find a higher-res one. Maybe you can. www.movela.org
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Old March 14th, 2016, 04:47 AM   #2083
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Does anyone have a map of the Orange County plan?
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Old March 14th, 2016, 07:59 AM   #2084
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^ That's existing Metrolink
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Old March 14th, 2016, 10:20 AM   #2085
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Yes , about what about the various proposals in Orange county?
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Old March 14th, 2016, 10:39 AM   #2086
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Red is to be constructed, black is new plan.
All of the black lines save for Vermont have been planned out to an extent already, they're whats going to get funded if this passes.

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Yes , about what about the various proposals in Orange county?
Santa Ana and Anaheim are pushing streetcar projects, Santa Anas is the more promising of the two.
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Old March 14th, 2016, 06:12 PM   #2087
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The current MAP with the three under construction expansions, EXPO II, REGIONAL CONNECTOR AND PURPLE LINE Extension.



My Favorite FANTASY MAP.

"who doesn't love a little fantasy every now and then? Here with a little bit of whimsy is a dream map of the Los Angeles rail system of 2040, from Jake Berman of Studio Complutense (via LACMTA Tumblr). Berman, a lawyer by trade, has a backlog of fantasy maps drawn up on his Tumblr, but the one of LA is truly wild. He writes that it "Includes all of LA Metro’s currently unfunded projects," meaning subways, light rail, elevated lines, and rapid buses too. What does that even look like?"

http://la.curbed.com/2016/2/22/11095...-rail-map-2040


Not all funded of course.
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Old March 14th, 2016, 06:55 PM   #2088
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Not all funded of course.
The legal fees involved in fighting the NIMBYs over a subway extension to the west-of-405 will likely be about US$25m.
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Old March 14th, 2016, 11:38 PM   #2089
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All the excitement over Metro's Measure R2 plan encouraged me to revisit my fantasy map and I figured I'd share the updated version with you guys.


Master Metro 031216 by Marshall Knight, on Flickr
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Obviously it's much much more elaborate than what's currently politically/fiscally feasible at this point, so it's best to treat it as a thought exercise: what type of system would best serve the region for the next century if the money and political willpower were not the giant obstacles they are?

I've included versions of nearly every project on Metro's current long-range plan, with some editorializing, plus many that I've either heard discussed or just personally pined for.

Some Metro personnel recently explained that that the pre-Blue Line plans in the 70s and 80s (before the advent of cheaper LRT) were much closer to BART than the system we have now. The network was intended to have a backbone of grade-separated HRT lines extending out to satellite cities, ferrying commuters into the urban core, where the stop frequencies increase as lines transition without transfer from "commuter rail-esque" into a proper metro. So that's what I based this on, with the addition of numerous LRTs (the skinnier lines) along paths of least resistance, such as freeway medians and existing ROWs. The Green Line has proven that as long as you don't have any grade crossings, even very long LRT lines can be efficient as HRT, and in my plan serve largely as circulators, as with the 91/605 "outer crescent" line.

Much of this is obviously incredibly fanciful -- service to the Rose Bowl and Hollywood Bowls, a PCH line in the Beach Cities, and four east/west subways through Mid-City won't happen in a million years. Other moves were made to rectify past missteps -- LRT on Ventura Blvd, HRT down Vermont/the 110, and HRT to the Eastside. Some of it may even seem a little counter-intuitive, such as diverting a line up Alvarado to Silverlake and Glendale, instead of all the way up Vermont. But other moves -- like diverting the Purple line along the coast of Santa Monica and Silicon Beach to connect all major Westside hubs via a single line -- seem honestly like no brainers.

But everything is up for debate and that's sort of the point. Hope you enjoy.
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Old March 18th, 2016, 09:22 PM   #2090
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http://thesource.metro.net/2016/03/1...ransportation/
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Old March 19th, 2016, 03:28 AM   #2091
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The current MAP with the three under construction expansions, EXPO II, REGIONAL CONNECTOR AND PURPLE LINE Extension.



My Favorite FANTASY MAP.

"who doesn't love a little fantasy every now and then? Here with a little bit of whimsy is a dream map of the Los Angeles rail system of 2040, from Jake Berman of Studio Complutense (via LACMTA Tumblr). Berman, a lawyer by trade, has a backlog of fantasy maps drawn up on his Tumblr, but the one of LA is truly wild. He writes that it "Includes all of LA Metro’s currently unfunded projects," meaning subways, light rail, elevated lines, and rapid buses too. What does that even look like?"

http://la.curbed.com/2016/2/22/11095...-rail-map-2040


Not all funded of course.
If the pink line is a heavy rail line it should continue onto Union Station via Dodgers Stadium..
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Old March 19th, 2016, 07:32 AM   #2092
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Metro Unveils $120B Plan To Repair Roads, LA Infrastructure

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Old March 20th, 2016, 05:55 AM   #2093
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I am probably not the only one who is disappointed that there is not a Red line extension to Bob Hope Airport in this expansion plan, right?
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Old March 21st, 2016, 02:32 AM   #2094
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I am probably not the only one who is disappointed that there is not a Red line extension to Bob Hope Airport in this expansion plan, right?
SFV is already getting Orange Line upgrades and the Sepvuleda/Van Nuys Corridor, and Vermont needs the Red Line extension much more.
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Old March 21st, 2016, 03:27 AM   #2095
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$120B, really? Seems to much to repair LA infrastructure. I feel as though this is overvalued.
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Old April 13th, 2016, 03:59 AM   #2096
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The Gold Line Extension is exceeding early ridership projections!
http://la.curbed.com/2016/4/11/11411...sion-ridership
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Old April 13th, 2016, 05:20 PM   #2097
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4th Quarter 2015 Daily Ridership numbers for Greater LA Region

Heavy Rail
Los Angeles / Purple & Red lines - 144,800 (2015) : -5.25%

Light Rail
Los Angeles / Metro-LRT - 189,700 (2015) : -7.06%

Bus Ridership
Los Angeles / MTA Bus - 1,017.8 Million (2015) : -5.90%
Orange County / OC Bus - 140,700 (2015) : -6.93%
Long Beach / Long Beach transit - 84,700 (2015) : -7.70%
Santa Monica / Santa Monica's Big Blue Bus - 63,100 (2015) : -15.68%
San Bernardino / OMNITRANS - 42,100 (2015) : -11.57%
Montebello / Montebello Bus Lines - 28,700 (2015) : -6.78%
Riverside / Riverside Transit Agency - 31,000 (2015) : -1.45%
Santa Barbara / Santa Barbara MTD - 23,800 (2015) : -9.95%
Culver City / Culver CityBus - 14,700 (2015) : -9.71%
Torrance / Torrance Transit System - 12,700 (2015) : -2.57%
Oxnard / Gold Coast Transit - 11,700 (2015) : -1.78%
Santa Clarita / Santa Clarita Transit - 10,400 (2015) : -7.21%
Norwalk / Norwalk Transit System - 5,000 (2015) : -5.94%
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Old April 14th, 2016, 02:26 AM   #2098
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4th Quarter 2015 Daily Ridership numbers for Greater LA Region

Heavy Rail
Los Angeles / Purple & Red lines - 144,800 (2015) : -5.25%

Light Rail
Los Angeles / Metro-LRT - 189,700 (2015) : -7.06%

Bus Ridership
Los Angeles / MTA Bus - 1,017.8 Million (2015) : -5.90%
Orange County / OC Bus - 140,700 (2015) : -6.93%
Long Beach / Long Beach transit - 84,700 (2015) : -7.70%
Santa Monica / Santa Monica's Big Blue Bus - 63,100 (2015) : -15.68%
San Bernardino / OMNITRANS - 42,100 (2015) : -11.57%
Montebello / Montebello Bus Lines - 28,700 (2015) : -6.78%
Riverside / Riverside Transit Agency - 31,000 (2015) : -1.45%
Santa Barbara / Santa Barbara MTD - 23,800 (2015) : -9.95%
Culver City / Culver CityBus - 14,700 (2015) : -9.71%
Torrance / Torrance Transit System - 12,700 (2015) : -2.57%
Oxnard / Gold Coast Transit - 11,700 (2015) : -1.78%
Santa Clarita / Santa Clarita Transit - 10,400 (2015) : -7.21%
Norwalk / Norwalk Transit System - 5,000 (2015) : -5.94%
Wow these numbers are dismal...
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Wow these numbers are dismal...
Cheap gas! And besides the Gold Line extension has just gone online and will start to add to the ridership numbers.

And let's not forget the big game changer coming up soon: the finished expo line. I feel like metro is HUGELY underestimating the ridership on this line. Connecting santa monica and the beach directly with downtown is a seismic disrupter for the public transportation situation in LA county as a whole.
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The plans are enormous and visionary and I hope that at least part of that actually happens. LA can use the mass transit investments!
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