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Old May 23rd, 2016, 10:32 PM   #2161
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Either drunkenness, severe distraction, or criminal pursuit.
He was arrested with a BAC of .21 so basically blackout drunk. Thankfully no one was killed, but it's frustrating that this idiot disrupted the first Monday commute of the completed Expo.

Anyway, as promised I got out onto the extension for a Friday night bar crawl, then again on Saturday morning and Sunday afternoon. Aside from nearly becoming the first passenger to vomit on the new line after one margarita too many, I'd call it a great success! Tons of people came out for opening day, and were riding both directions in droves even after the free Friday/Saturday promotion was over.

After all this wait, it was gratifying to see so many people out there enjoying it, especially at the little street fairs that Metro had going at several of the stops -- really a great sense of community and civic excitement.

Through not exactly intentional, I did wind up at 4 of the 6 new stops, and was generally impressed with how well they turned out -- Palms, which I'd expected to feel as dreary as a freeway underpass while it was under construction, surprised me in particular. The only big issue I ran into was at DTSM, where there are major bottlenecks at the gates and TAP dispensers. Metro should put in several more kiosks at the bottom of the stairs and open up the top level for more gates. It's also not always clear which platform passengers should be standing on to catch the next LA-bound train, but part of my confusion may have been due to a test train that wouldn't normally be there.

Oh and the Colorado Esplanade looks freaking incredible, especially when it's all lit up at night. It's really quite the gateway into Santa Monica.

I didn't have the presence of mind to take many pictures, but there are a million of them floating around out there. Instead, enjoy the view from my new commute (at least when I'm staying at my girlfriend's place) between Culver City and Bundy:

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Old May 23rd, 2016, 10:55 PM   #2162
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Again, like you say it's mindboggling that this subway line hasn't been built sooner, but that's westside NIMBY's for you.
Yes, it is. The probelm for the network as a whole is however that its like the heart is missing. Every expansion of the purple line will be very transformative I guess but they should think about speeding up construction in my opinion, if possible. The current time frame takes forever and t full extension to Santa Monica doesn't even have a date at all.

But I am possibly just repeating stuff that has been said here already many times before. I mean it is that obvious, isn't it?
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Old May 23rd, 2016, 11:14 PM   #2163
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Yep you are right of course. That's one of, maybe the main, reason I am a big supporter of the 2024 LA Olympics bid. Apparently if LA gets the Olympics, there is a good chance that federal funds will be issued to finish the current Purple Line plan by 2024, and if R2 passes as well, get the whole thing to Santa Monica relatively soon after. If you are a supporter of rail in LA County, please let the IOC know you want an LA Olympics!
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Los Angeles Metro Rail mileage is almost as large as BART now. The difference is less than 2 miles.

Amazingly, Los Angeles Metro Rail mileage is three miles longer than CTA rail system in Chicago.
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Old May 24th, 2016, 03:36 AM   #2166
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People forget how huge LA is, a Megalopolis.
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Old May 24th, 2016, 07:13 PM   #2167
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Oh yes it is. It has some pretty well defined central urban corridors though. One of them, possibly the most obvious one, other than the Hollywood corridor, is the future purple line. That I have to use "future" in that sentence is the crazy thing. It should have been at the heart of the system right away but we all know the story.

Getting a good coverage of all the more peripheral areas is of course a challenge but that's an entirely different story.
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Old May 24th, 2016, 08:36 PM   #2168
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Oh yes it is. It has some pretty well defined central urban corridors though. One of them, possibly the most obvious one, other than the Hollywood corridor, is the future purple line. That I have to use "future" in that sentence is the crazy thing. It should have been at the heart of the system right away but we all know the story.

Getting a good coverage of all the more peripheral areas is of course a challenge but that's an entirely different story.
Part of the reason the Red and Purple lines were built as they were was politics. Originally (at least as of the mid 90s), the Red/Purple lines would have largely followed their current course but would have continued on through Union Station to Little Tokyo and then to East LA (following Whittier Ave.) thus a bit further south then today's Gold Line Light Rail.


http://www.railpac.org/

Focusing solely on building the new rail line in the higher density (and higher income) Westside at the expense of poorer East LA would have been a non-starter.

Of course then there were all the construction debacles in the 90's which soured people on subway construction (to the point of making it illegal for a while!), and LA refocused its efforts on surface light rail instead, and East LA never did end up getting Red or Purple Line service.

Sharp eyes may also note that the original Purple line trajectory was not to follow Wilshire east after Wilshire/Western but to veer off southeast toward Pico/San Vicente.

I think one of the biggest problems with getting rail built in LA is that it's so big that no matter where you start building constituents are going to accuse MTA of favoritism.
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Old May 24th, 2016, 08:55 PM   #2169
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I think one of the biggest problems with getting rail built in LA is that it's so big that no matter where you start building constituents are going to accuse MTA of favoritism.
This is exactly right. Since Metro is a county agency, they're beholden to 88 cities and vast unincorporated areas, rather than just the most urbanized central areas. It's hard to convince a far-flung public that focusing resources on the urban core is good policy instead of favoritism.

Frankly, it needs to be restructured, although I won't pretend to have any concrete answers. I'd be in favor of creating some kind of "special transit/economic zone" that creates clear boundaries for the urban core. As has been discussed here, that could easily be defined as the areas bounded on the South by the 10 Freeway, on the East by the LA River, and on the North by Sunset/Hollywood Blvds; or expanded to include the Southeast SFV, Burbank and Glendale.

Whatever the political/bureaucratic structure, that region should be given greater autonomy to create ballot measures or seek federal funding and to execute its own transit plan, leaving county-wide projects like suburban LRT/BRT and the Metrolink in the hands of a separate entity.
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Media is weird. LATimes has a big story on that crash. If some crazy nut is driving is car off a cliff on a perfectly safe road, no would blame the street or the cliff. But if the cliff is light rail track, things are different. Or when an accident is blocking a major street, causing a major traffic jam. No one would make a story like "you can't rely on street XYZ anymore"

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/l...nap-story.html

Much better than the article are however some of the comments. My favourite:
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Not sure what the allure of the Third World is...
Yeah, that's from a guy who has clearly seen the world.
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Everyone knows the fastest way to get from Santa Monica to downtown LA via public transit is on a speeding bus with Sandra Bullock behind the wheel.
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Everyone knows the fastest way to get from Santa Monica to downtown LA via public transit is on a speeding bus with Sandra Bullock behind the wheel.
All the more reason to invest in cloning-we have a distinct deficiency of Sandra Bullocks.
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Rode it on Monday. First day of normal operation and it was a joke. The brand new train broke down at Pico. No staff/sherriff's knew what was going on. They crammed us in like sardines on a Long Beach train. The stopping at lights is ridiculous. Once past La Brea it was great. Beautiful in Santa Monica. Should have taken my 89 year old Dad on another day.
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Rode it on Monday. First day of normal operation and it was a joke. The brand new train broke down at Pico. No staff/sherriff's knew what was going on. They crammed us in like sardines on a Long Beach train. The stopping at lights is ridiculous. Once past La Brea it was great. Beautiful in Santa Monica. Should have taken my 89 year old Dad on another day.
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So it's a joke?
Yes. The stop announcements were backwards. So the La Brea stop was announced as USC. You'd think that MTA staff would have been on top of it but they all looked like deer in headlights. Knowing this was 'the day' managment should have been on top of things. I guess it's too much to ask for 'civil servants' to be proactive.
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On Gold Line, the new train's front screen is a joke. The operators never change what the screen displays, so once it said "Not In Service" at Union Station. Also, the upcoming train monitor is hilarious. It can't tell when a train will be Not in Service, unlike the ones in Hong Kong for every depot or test train.

They really need to deal with such tiny things.
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Part of the reason the Red and Purple lines were built as they were was politics. Originally (at least as of the mid 90s), the Red/Purple lines would have largely followed their current course but would have continued on through Union Station to Little Tokyo and then to East LA (following Whittier Ave.) thus a bit further south then today's Gold Line Light Rail.


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Focusing solely on building the new rail line in the higher density (and higher income) Westside at the expense of poorer East LA would have been a non-starter.

Of course then there were all the construction debacles in the 90's which soured people on subway construction (to the point of making it illegal for a while!), and LA refocused its efforts on surface light rail instead, and East LA never did end up getting Red or Purple Line service.

Sharp eyes may also note that the original Purple line trajectory was not to follow Wilshire east after Wilshire/Western but to veer off southeast toward Pico/San Vicente.

I think one of the biggest problems with getting rail built in LA is that it's so big that no matter where you start building constituents are going to accuse MTA of favoritism.
I like this vintage map. This would probably have been built in the UK.
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I like this vintage map. This would probably have been built in the UK.
I like how Segment 1 and Segment 3 are the same color. The map was quite evidently created by someone who hated his or her job.
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This appears to be light rail on steroid.
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