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Old October 9th, 2008, 01:23 PM   #301
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Old October 9th, 2008, 04:23 PM   #302
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Why aren't these kids fined and put in jail?? And why don't other passengers stop them?

That is absolutely disgraceful.
In a society full of guns..... it is usually unwise to confront a shifty character for you never know for certain what is in their waist band.

Some years ago in Chicago my old man and I were on the EL when some little bugger was causing trouble.

My dad decided to speak up for the person the guy was accosting and he pulled a knife on my dad. Thankfully it did not escalate from there.
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Old October 9th, 2008, 06:15 PM   #303
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In a society full of guns..... it is usually unwise to confront a shifty character for you never know for certain what is in their waist band.

Some years ago in Chicago my old man and I were on the EL when some little bugger was causing trouble.

My dad decided to speak up for the person the guy was accosting and he pulled a knife on my dad. Thankfully it did not escalate from there.
This is what happens when only criminals have guns and the laws make it impossible for law-abiding citizens to carry guns around.

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Out of curiosity why was that law against using tax dollars on subway tunnels even proposed and who supported such a boondoggle of an idea?
There were a lot of problems during the Red Line construction. We had a sinkhole in Hollywood, cost overruns, and the tunneling sometimes missed the station. Then there were problems with the tracks and people spewing nonsense about tunnels being unsafe during earthquakes got louder and louder. Eventually it made the Red Line very unpopular so a country politician put up that measure which would bar any future sales tax monies from being spent on any subway in LA County. This effectively killed the Red Line Extension which would have gone into East LA (now being replaced by a light-rail line with a pretty good underground section) and is why we have only again started talking about a subway under Wilshire this year.
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Old October 9th, 2008, 06:30 PM   #304
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This is what happens when only criminals have guns and the laws make it impossible for law-abiding citizens to carry guns around.
Please tell me that this is a joke.

You must be kidding.

In the US more people (good or bad) have guns than any wealth country. The laws on their use are less strict than any other wealthy developed country as well.

By your logic, the US should be the safest place. Reality though does not match that by a long shot.

More guns and weapons do not make a place safe.
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Old October 10th, 2008, 01:53 AM   #305
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There were a lot of problems during the Red Line construction. We had a sinkhole in Hollywood, cost overruns, and the tunneling sometimes missed the station. Then there were problems with the tracks and people spewing nonsense about tunnels being unsafe during earthquakes got louder and louder. Eventually it made the Red Line very unpopular so a country politician put up that measure which would bar any future sales tax monies from being spent on any subway in LA County. This effectively killed the Red Line Extension which would have gone into East LA (now being replaced by a light-rail line with a pretty good underground section) and is why we have only again started talking about a subway under Wilshire this year.
But cost overruns, sinkholes and misalignment are common problems with subway construction. There must have been something else going on. Were there fears of increased crime or lowered property value?
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Old October 10th, 2008, 08:50 AM   #306
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If I were that bus driver I probably would have taken a detour to the closest police station. You know, the guys with those horrible guns.
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Old October 10th, 2008, 11:13 AM   #307
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But cost overruns, sinkholes and misalignment are common problems with subway construction. There must have been something else going on. Were there fears of increased crime or lowered property value?
There's a lot of fossil fuel under LA. Just look at the La Brea tar pits. I think there was a time when a pocket of methane was hit or something. Maybe that caused some fears.
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Old October 10th, 2008, 06:45 PM   #308
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metro_Red_Line_(LACMTA) : There were a couple of major accidents during Blue Line construction, including a methane explosion that injured 24 at a department store: http://www.laweekly.com/2005-08-18/n...-subway-mayor/ .
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Old October 11th, 2008, 05:26 AM   #309
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There were no problems that I know of with Blue Line Construction. Plenty with the Red Line. And yes, I did forget to mention the methane gas explosion. That had happened long before the law was passed though.

There were plenty of NIMBY rumors and yes, fears of declining property values. Eventually the public got fed up and decided that they wanted no more subways. The famous "subways were made for vertical cities of the 20th century" argument.

Homer J. Simpson, there's plenty of evidence that when you loosen gun control laws that violent crime goes down, way down.
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Old October 11th, 2008, 05:33 AM   #310
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If the citizens of LA doesn't vote for Measure R, than they deserve to be trapped in endless traffic jams.
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Old October 11th, 2008, 09:24 PM   #311
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Please tell me that this is a joke.

You must be kidding.

In the US more people (good or bad) have guns than any wealth country. The laws on their use are less strict than any other wealthy developed country as well.

By your logic, the US should be the safest place. Reality though does not match that by a long shot.

More guns and weapons do not make a place safe.
No, what makes a place unsafe are idiots who can get guns inapropriately and dont know how to use or respect a firearm. Many people carry guns responsibly, however these dumbasses deserve to shoot themselves in the face for what they do.

However, this is the wrong forum for a gun rights discussion. You can continue to laugh at conservatisim and in the face of gun rights, and conservatives will continue to laugh at you but when the shit hits the fan, its the conservatives who rescue the libs from shit hitting the fan.

Sorry bout that... there are few things i hate more than people who think they know everything.
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Old October 12th, 2008, 07:07 AM   #312
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I know this will continue to go off topic but I just want to say then you're right, a few bad apples with guns cause the problem. With that in mind, guns are not a good thing for the public to have in general, cause a few bad apples are enough to make them unsafe. No matter what you do you will have individuals who do not know how to deal with owning firearms. It's better off that almost no one has them.
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Old October 12th, 2008, 11:38 PM   #313
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Please tell me that this is a joke.

You must be kidding.

In the US more people (good or bad) have guns than any wealth country. The laws on their use are less strict than any other wealthy developed country as well.


Gun laws in the US are less strict with regards to owning guns & keeping them at home to protect your property. What you cannot do is carry guns with you at all times. This requires a very special permit. Of course criminals do it, but then if they get caught they go straight to jail, just for gun posession.
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You can continue to laugh at conservatisim and in the face of gun rights, and conservatives will continue to laugh at you but when the shit hits the fan, its the conservatives who rescue the libs from shit hitting the fan.
Conservative governance has ruined the economy and environment but we all have guns so we can kill ourselves when things get bad enough.

When have conservatives saved liberals? That is an absurd statement. It's not as if conservatives and liberals wear uniforms identifying themselves.

Are you one of those conspiracy militia nuts that think a New World Order is nigh upon us and that a shotgun is going to save you from the black helicopters?
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I know this will continue to go off topic but I just want to say then you're right, a few bad apples with guns cause the problem. With that in mind, guns are not a good thing for the public to have in general, cause a few bad apples are enough to make them unsafe. No matter what you do you will have individuals who do not know how to deal with owning firearms. It's better off that almost no one has them.
So then why take away guns from the people who can use them for self-defense? The criminals will always find a way to get their guns.
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OMG people, Los Angeles metro please!
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Old October 15th, 2008, 05:18 AM   #319
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enough! lets talk about proposals and rail lines! Measure R might be the most important proposition in Los Angeles history.
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Measure R needs 2/3rds support to pass. with about 20% reporting, it has a 65 - 35 lead. its close. hopefully the precincts left are from LA City!!
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