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Old June 28th, 2009, 08:12 AM   #401
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they can't, the voters in the valley banned all rail based transportation after the north hollywood, subway stop was finished. led by Zev Yarslavsky.
What?!?!?! People can do that? That's so.. I'm not gonna say it lol.

It's really not cool.

Maybe they should ban cars so everyone has to use their fraggin bikes.
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Old June 29th, 2009, 12:31 AM   #402
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plus the red line is heavy rail.
So Red Line cars couldn't travel on a light-rail line? I was thinking of LA-style light rail, like the Gold Line east extension which is more like a light-metro than it is light-rail.
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Old June 29th, 2009, 02:54 AM   #403
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i think the dimensions of heavy rail cars are different than the light rail lines. the red line wouldn't fit on the gold Line tracks, so any conversion of the busway to rail should be compatible with the red line for no transfer rides from end to end.
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Old September 3rd, 2009, 10:18 PM   #404
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The subway portion of the Gold Line Eastside Connection.

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Old October 22nd, 2009, 10:03 PM   #405
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The Gold Line Eastside Connection will open November 14th.


Here are some test videos from this past summer.




And a very well put together safety video.
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Old October 23rd, 2009, 03:17 AM   #406
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Woo-hoo!! Congrats LA!!
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Old October 23rd, 2009, 04:12 AM   #407
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Here is a VERY good map of Los Angeles's long term transit plans. Hopefully this will be complete in 2030. Hopefully, a good chunk of it will be done by 2015 (IE the Wilshire Subway).

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Those stations look beautiful!
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Old October 23rd, 2009, 09:21 PM   #409
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In a victory for the mayor, the Metropolitan Transportation Authority board today reaffirmed the Westside subway and a rail connection through downtown L.A. as the agency's top priorities for federal funding.

The board took the action despite calls from some in Southern California's congressional delegation that the MTA add other projects to its priority list for New Starts federal money, including light-rail extensions in the San Gabriel Valley, the Southside and the Eastside.

But backers of those projects did get a consolation prize as the MTA approved its long-range transportation plan, which outlines how it will spend an estimated $300 billion over the next 30 years.

The MTA board decided that those projects should be allowed to seek other types of federal funding.

Under the plan, L.A. County could see a significant increase in rail service in the coming decades. The extension of the Gold Line, for example, from Pasadena to the east could be complete by 2013, according to agency planning the line. The MTA agreed to operate the line if it is built before 2017.

Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa has been trying to fast-track the long-delayed Westside subway proposal.

He has been pushing to have the subway completed in 10 years — more than 15 years earlier than under current estimates. At his urging, the MTA board agreed to submit the subway expansion, as well as a plan to build a light-rail through downtown, as the county's two projects to compete for a share of a national pool of federal funding.
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Is there a reason why the Expo Line and the Purple Line don't meet up at the same location in Santa Monica to create a single transit hub? It'd be far cheaper for the Expo to meet up with the Purple than the other way around.

From past experience flying through LAX, couldn't a light rail line use the set of tracks that run along Aviation from the Green Line stop up to the terminals? I don't know how much freight use that section gets, but all that's needed is a spur into the airport itself. The ROW looks enough to put at least one additional track in if it can't be turned over to transit. Put the by-pass siding (if required) somewhere along West Century/Avion if they can't fit two tracks along the roadway.
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Here is a VERY good map of Los Angeles's long term transit plans. Hopefully this will be complete in 2030. Hopefully, a good chunk of it will be done by 2015 (IE the Wilshire Subway).

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Old October 24th, 2009, 10:42 AM   #413
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Is there a reason why the Expo Line and the Purple Line don't meet up at the same location in Santa Monica to create a single transit hub? It'd be far cheaper for the Expo to meet up with the Purple than the other way around.
Because the former is light rail and the latter is heavy rail. They're incompatible with each other.

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From past experience flying through LAX, couldn't a light rail line use the set of tracks that run along Aviation from the Green Line stop up to the terminals? I don't know how much freight use that section gets, but all that's needed is a spur into the airport itself. The ROW looks enough to put at least one additional track in if it can't be turned over to transit. Put the by-pass siding (if required) somewhere along West Century/Avion if they can't fit two tracks along the roadway.
That's the Harbor Subdivision ROW and it will indeed be used to connect the Green Line with LAX (the map shown above isn't entirely accurate). The layout of the airport actually makes it difficult for a direct connection, so the Green Line will instead connect with a people mover at Century/Aviation.

A nonstop LAX-Union Station express train, similar to those found in Hong Kong and London, is in the works...

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Old October 25th, 2009, 04:25 AM   #414
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Because the former is light rail and the latter is heavy rail. They're incompatible with each other.
Not a direct link using the same ROW but a transfer station like the 7th St./Metro Ctr. or Union Station which has connections to both HRT and LRT. Wouldn't a single transit hub make some sense rather than two separated by a few blocks?

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That's the Harbor Subdivision ROW and it will indeed be used to connect the Green Line with LAX (the map shown above isn't entirely accurate). The layout of the airport actually makes it difficult for a direct connection, so the Green Line will instead connect with a people mover at Century/Aviation.

A nonstop LAX-Union Station express train, similar to those found in Hong Kong and London, is in the works...

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The people mover doesn't necessarily need to serve all the terminals. A station or two in a central location would suffice. As much of a convenience the free shuttle is from LAX, trying to pick it out from all the other buses that serve the airport is a bit daunting especially if you're not familiar with it. Plus, hopefully it'll reduce the number of people trying to board the shuttle for free from the Aviation station without a valid ticket. It happens more than enough times to slow the trip down. Now all they'd need to do is put machines at the LAX stations to sell tickets and passes.
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Not a direct link using the same ROW but a transfer station like the 7th St./Metro Ctr. or Union Station which has connections to both HRT and LRT. Wouldn't a single transit hub make some sense rather than two separated by a few blocks?
Well, that would mean putting Expo's terminus station underground. I'm not sure if that's financially feasible.

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The people mover doesn't necessarily need to serve all the terminals. A station or two in a central location would suffice. As much of a convenience the free shuttle is from LAX, trying to pick it out from all the other buses that serve the airport is a bit daunting especially if you're not familiar with it. Plus, hopefully it'll reduce the number of people trying to board the shuttle for free from the Aviation station without a valid ticket. It happens more than enough times to slow the trip down. Now all they'd need to do is put machines at the LAX stations to sell tickets and passes.
The people mover will make stops at every terminal as well as a consolidated car rental facility before meeting up with the Green Line at Century/Aviation. The colloquially named LAX Express will have one or two stations located within the Central Terminal Area. We'll have both.
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Old October 26th, 2009, 05:46 AM   #416
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Well, that would mean putting Expo's terminus station underground. I'm not sure if that's financially feasible.
Why was 4th/Wilshire chosen as the terminus for the purple line? Just because it's as far as they can go before actually winding up in the Pacific?! There's not much at that particular locations. The hotels are few blocks down the street. Was this as close as they could get without alienating them?

As for the Expo line why not keep it a street level if tunnelling is a cost concern? Seeing as there really isn't any available land to build a proper surface station (Toronto seems to be able to implement this well) why not have it do a loop along 4th from the terminus at Colorado/Olympic up to Wilshire, down to Ocean back to Colorado/Olympic? That'd bring rail service right to the beach, link the LRT and HRT services and add to the atmosphere that is Santa Monica. Especially if that proposed map with the Green Line reaching Santa Monica, it seems a little short-sighted not to connect the services directly instead of having to switch to a bus between the two terminals.
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they can't, the voters in the valley banned all rail based transportation after the north hollywood, subway stop was finished. led by Zev Yarslavsky.

Isn't it complete nuts to ban rail based transportation by principle?
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Isn't it complete nuts to ban rail based transportation by principle?
Have you been to the valley? It is not conducive to rail by design and I'm not surprised they did something like that.
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Can someone post pictures of the Compton light rail station?
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Have you been to the valley? It is not conducive to reason and I'm not surprised they did something like that.
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