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Old October 28th, 2009, 09:39 AM   #421
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Old October 28th, 2009, 05:20 PM   #422
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nice metro , can i ask you guys something , how long and how much
will it take from long beach port to downtown using the metro ? and how much is by comparison a taxi from long beach port to downtown
ps: i suppose the metro is safe right?
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Old October 28th, 2009, 11:30 PM   #423
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A rainy day in LA incredible !!!
What are the frequencies of the Blue and Gold lines (rush hours and off peak) ?
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Old October 29th, 2009, 08:20 AM   #424
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Ha agreed though I can't say I haven't spent THAT much time out there.
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Old October 29th, 2009, 01:25 PM   #425
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nice metro , can i ask you guys something , how long and how much
will it take from long beach port to downtown using the metro ? and how much is by comparison a taxi from long beach port to downtown
ps: i suppose the metro is safe right?
A trip from Long Beach to downtown LA on the Blue Line takes about 45 minutes. Whereas a taxi can take well over an hour (depending on traffic). A one way ticket costs $1.25 and a day pass costs $5.00 (which lets you ride all the Metro including buses). And the LA Metro is pretty safe. Every now and then you'll see some weird people but just use common sense and you'll be fine.

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5-7 minutes peak and 15 minutes non peak.
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Old October 30th, 2009, 10:20 PM   #426
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Villaraigosa has bullish plan for rail transit projects
October 29, 2009 | 6:44 pm
By Ari B. Bloomekatz
The Los Angeles Times



If Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa has his way, Los Angeles County is about to embark on a commuter rail building boom the likes of which the region has never seen.

On Friday, the mayor will unveil an ambitious but politically risky transportation plan that fast-tracks several high-profile rail projects to be completed within the next decade. That's a big speed-up because officials have generally been talking about completing them within 30 years.

Villaraigosa has made building more rail a top priority of his administration — though he's the first to admit it's going to take more than speeches and good intentions to get it done.

「Yes this is a stretch-goal, yes this is going to be tough, but I think by now folks shouldn't count me out,」 Villaraigosa told The Times in an interview.

「The fact is that this is the most important thing that we can do to alleviate congestion and gridlock, to improve the quality of our air and to really vindicate the people's will for the need to address transportation,」 he said.

The mayor scored a big victory last year when voters approved a sales tax measure to help fund the projects, which include a subway to the Westside, the extension of the Gold Line in the San Gabriel Valley, the extension of the Expo Line to Santa Monica and new rail lines down Crenshaw Boulevard and through downtown L.A.

The mayor's office estimates that the revenue from Measure R and other available funds would provide only an estimated $5.2 billion if they were to expedite the projects. The rest would have to come from private sector partners, the federal government or other public funding.

Villaraigosa has made it clear he thinks the Westside subway — by far the most expensive project with a price tag of $5 billion to $6 billion — is his top priority. That has sparked conflict with backers of other rail projects demanding that their lines be given equal consideration.

By fast-tracking projects throughout the region, the mayor could ease those concerns — but only if enough money is available. And that remains an open question.

The mayor's office says the county needs at least $10 billion in additional funds to complete the projects in 10 years. The first step, he said, is building a regional coalition to promote the project.

Then the hard part — finding sources of funding, whether in the form of public-private partnerships or money from the federal government in the form of a no-interest loan, among other ways, the mayor's office said.

Villaraigosa said he thinks the federal government would be more likely to give Los Angeles County money for the project than other cities because of the passage of Measure R.

He also thinks it will be an attractive offer because, during tough economic times, it would create thousands of jobs much faster than originally planned.

Art Leahy, chief executive of the Metropolitan Transportation Authority, said that, hypothetically, if there was sufficient funding, the agency would be able to accelerate projects and that it may be cheaper to expedite projects now because 「right now we're in a period of relatively low construction costs.」

Villaraigosa will discuss the plan for the first time Friday at the Los Angeles Business Council's 2009 Mayoral Housing, Transportation and Jobs Summit at UCLA.

He will tell the group that 「30 years is too long」 to wait and that all 12 transit projects he wants to expedite can be built in a decade. It's called the 「30/10」 plan, and he will joke that some might say he's 「coming up with another dream.」

「The projects are going to happen, there's no question about that, and I'm going to be very aggressive at getting federal funds.... My goal is to make it happen sooner rather than later,」 Villaraigosa said. 「I recognize that it's a daunting task, but I love the challenge and I'm up for it.」

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Old November 2nd, 2009, 09:51 PM   #428
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Villaraigosa has bullish plan for rail transit projects
October 29, 2009 | 6:44 pm
By Ari B. Bloomekatz
The Los Angeles Times



If Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa has his way, Los Angeles County is about to embark on a commuter rail building boom the likes of which the region has never seen.

On Friday, the mayor will unveil an ambitious but politically risky transportation plan that fast-tracks several high-profile rail projects to be completed within the next decade. That's a big speed-up because officials have generally been talking about completing them within 30 years.

Villaraigosa has made building more rail a top priority of his administration — though he's the first to admit it's going to take more than speeches and good intentions to get it done.

「Yes this is a stretch-goal, yes this is going to be tough, but I think by now folks shouldn't count me out,」 Villaraigosa told The Times in an interview.

「The fact is that this is the most important thing that we can do to alleviate congestion and gridlock, to improve the quality of our air and to really vindicate the people's will for the need to address transportation,」 he said.

The mayor scored a big victory last year when voters approved a sales tax measure to help fund the projects, which include a subway to the Westside, the extension of the Gold Line in the San Gabriel Valley, the extension of the Expo Line to Santa Monica and new rail lines down Crenshaw Boulevard and through downtown L.A.

The mayor's office estimates that the revenue from Measure R and other available funds would provide only an estimated $5.2 billion if they were to expedite the projects. The rest would have to come from private sector partners, the federal government or other public funding.

Villaraigosa has made it clear he thinks the Westside subway — by far the most expensive project with a price tag of $5 billion to $6 billion — is his top priority. That has sparked conflict with backers of other rail projects demanding that their lines be given equal consideration.

By fast-tracking projects throughout the region, the mayor could ease those concerns — but only if enough money is available. And that remains an open question.

The mayor's office says the county needs at least $10 billion in additional funds to complete the projects in 10 years. The first step, he said, is building a regional coalition to promote the project.

Then the hard part — finding sources of funding, whether in the form of public-private partnerships or money from the federal government in the form of a no-interest loan, among other ways, the mayor's office said.

Villaraigosa said he thinks the federal government would be more likely to give Los Angeles County money for the project than other cities because of the passage of Measure R.

He also thinks it will be an attractive offer because, during tough economic times, it would create thousands of jobs much faster than originally planned.

Art Leahy, chief executive of the Metropolitan Transportation Authority, said that, hypothetically, if there was sufficient funding, the agency would be able to accelerate projects and that it may be cheaper to expedite projects now because 「right now we're in a period of relatively low construction costs.」

Villaraigosa will discuss the plan for the first time Friday at the Los Angeles Business Council's 2009 Mayoral Housing, Transportation and Jobs Summit at UCLA.

He will tell the group that 「30 years is too long」 to wait and that all 12 transit projects he wants to expedite can be built in a decade. It's called the 「30/10」 plan, and he will joke that some might say he's 「coming up with another dream.」

「The projects are going to happen, there's no question about that, and I'm going to be very aggressive at getting federal funds.... My goal is to make it happen sooner rather than later,」 Villaraigosa said. 「I recognize that it's a daunting task, but I love the challenge and I'm up for it.」

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Wow if he can pull this off he will probably have quite a legacy. Good for him, I wish San Diego had that kind of ambition and foresight.
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Old November 2nd, 2009, 11:03 PM   #429
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Have you been to the valley? It is not conducive to rail by design and I'm not surprised they did something like that.
No I don't know the valley. So I can't have much of an educated opinion. I still don't get it however, why such a ban should be necessary. After all, if its really not conducive to rail by design, why would anyone try in first place?

If it is, why not try it, the road infrastructure is heavily subsidized as well. But its of course the decision of the people there. If they want it that way, they shall get it their way.
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Old November 3rd, 2009, 01:29 PM   #430
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LA Calls off Light Rail Car Deal
03 November 2009

A previously agreed $300m deal for 100 light rail cars deal between the Los Angeles County Metropolitan Transportation Authority in the US and Italian rail maker AnsaldoBreda has collapsed.

The Italian firm has declined to accept the contract's conditions, which include financial penalties for late deliveries.

The contract was signed despite opposition from within the transport agency citing the Italian firm's underperformance in a earlier contract, in which locomotives were delivered late and were too heavy to be used on all light rail routes.

The deal, agreed in September, was based on an option in an earlier agreement with AnsaldoBreda to supply 50 rail cars.

The deal also required the Italian firm, a Finmeccanica subsidiary, to build a manufacturing facility in the city.

The agency will now open fresh bids with the contract expected to be awarded in spring 2010.
Source: http://www.railway-technology.com/news/news68753.html
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Old November 3rd, 2009, 10:36 PM   #431
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No I don't know the valley. So I can't have much of an educated opinion. I still don't get it however, why such a ban should be necessary. After all, if its really not conducive to rail by design, why would anyone try in first place?

If it is, why not try it, the road infrastructure is heavily subsidized as well. But its of course the decision of the people there. If they want it that way, they shall get it their way.
It's the mentality of the people. They probably think rail is too noisy. Stereotypically speaking, the Valley probably prides itself in relative isolation from the rest of LA proper and is sheltered.

I should clarify that the only effect Yaroslavsky had on killing plans to turn the Orange line into rail and further extensions of the red line had to do with limiting the funding sources of such construction due to high construction costs. I think this proposition has been reversed in the new enthusiasm for rail construction? I'm probably wrong.
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Thanks for the information. I have to admit, I know next to nothing about LA. Actually I am already happy to know that LA has rail bound public transport. Not too many Austrians are aware of that I guess (I hope the governator is though ). LA seems to be a synonym for absolutely car centered society here...

I am glad if the city is doing the utmost to debunk this prejudice.
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Look at it like this: About 75% of porn is made in the Valley. I'm pretty sure no one wants to be alone at night watching a porno only to have a train whistle interrupt their...movie viewing. Lol.
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Thanks for the information. I have to admit, I know next to nothing about LA. Actually I am already happy to know that LA has rail bound public transport. Not too many Austrians are aware of that I guess (I hope the governator is though ). LA seems to be a synonym for absolutely car centered society here...

I am glad if the city is doing the utmost to debunk this prejudice.
I understand. Even San Diego (and the bay area) has that stereotype of LA as being car hell (and don't get me wrong the traffic there is RIDICULOUS but traffic in other CA metros aren't much better). In my opinion San Diego is more backward thinking regarding transportation compared to LA's enlightenment with Villaraigosa advocating all of these projects plus the high speed rail and reversing the methane gas law that prevented subway tunnels. After all, once upon a time LA did have one of the most extensive public transit systems in the world.
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Really? The most extensive PT system worldwide? Are you sure? Bigger than the one of New York, London or Paris?
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Really? The most extensive PT system worldwide? Are you sure? Bigger than the one of New York, London or Paris?
He's talking about the streetcar (tram) system. It was the most extensive in the USA. I don't know how it compared to European cities, though.
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He's talking about the streetcar (tram) system. It was the most extensive in the USA. I don't know how it compared to European cities, though.
Yes, the Pacific Electric system. It was both a streetcar and interurban system. It predated the freeways considerably and is attributed to be the reason the Los Angeles metro area is so spread out.

Map of Pacific Electric system:
http://www.erha.org/pe_system_map.jpg

The builder of the PE, Henry Huntington, was also a real estate tycoon. His business model of rail line building and adjacent real estate development was emulated by many Japanese private railway companies, which are still going strong and are profitable.
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Above looks suspiciously like spam (apologies if you're legit), but spending 1.2 billion AU$ isn't something I would be too proud of when it is basically re-inventing the wheel. Hong Kong and Tokyo have had the same such systems for years (Octopus and Suica):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octopus_card

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this is a thread about la, not melbourne

lets keep it that way shall we
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