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Old November 17th, 2009, 10:32 PM   #481
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The concern should be capacity as well as safety. Los Angeles is building a network of light rail lines that will very quickly be at their design capacity. The Blue Line is already considered to be at capacity during rush hour. The Expo/Aqua Line is expected to be at capacity the day it reaches Santa Monica. This could also be the case with the Gold Line as it is extended eastward at both ends.
One should be glad about the success of a network. Having that said, your point is of course valid but I think the only logical response to such a thing is new additional lines. These could be if possible built as subways as well.
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Old November 17th, 2009, 11:05 PM   #482
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True, LA is "starting small" as it were on the capacity side. I think they really want to get coverage in first and only do heavy rail service in the busiest areas like Wilshire. Then down the road the light rail lines can be upgraded to grade separated heavy rail service where feasible. That way the initial investment isn't such a shocker. Yes you end up paying more overall, but LA has to warm up to using rail gradually.
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Old November 17th, 2009, 11:16 PM   #483
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^ Bingo. The current focus is solely on getting as many lines up and running as soon as possible. Only when capacity becomes an issue will grade-separation be considered. That being said, I'm concerned about the Expo Line reaching its capacity once it's extended all the way to Santa Monica by 2014-2015. The Purple Line won't reach Santa Monica for a long time.
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Old November 17th, 2009, 11:50 PM   #484
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I agree with both of you.

Do you guys think that the Expo line will reach capacity that quick?
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Old November 18th, 2009, 08:04 AM   #485
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I agree with both of you.

Do you guys think that the Expo line will reach capacity that quick?
When you tap into another college campus, I know that increases ridership significantly. Give them more places to go like the beach, and the numbers go up. Reaching capacity I don't know but I'm not so well informed.
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Old November 18th, 2009, 09:51 AM   #486
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Do you guys think that the Expo line will reach capacity that quick?
Well, maybe not in its first year of operation, but definitely by 2020 when the Regional Connector and Crenshaw Corridor are up and running. But even then, the Purple Line to Santa Monica will still be a ways off.
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Old November 19th, 2009, 01:02 AM   #487
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Well, maybe not in its first year of operation, but definitely by 2020 when the Regional Connector and Crenshaw Corridor are up and running. But even then, the Purple Line to Santa Monica will still be a ways off.
I don't know..the Orange Line reached it's 2020 projected capacity estimate in like 2 months. Yeah it's a bus but that's still quite a lot of people.
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Old November 20th, 2009, 07:18 AM   #488
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A Siemens train on the Gold Line departs the Del Mar Station to east Pasadena. The building around the station is the Archstone apartment transit-oriented development. This station also has the restored Santa Fe depot, now a mid-price restaurant.


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The METRO Gold Line about to enter Union Station on an elevated rail, while Amtrak deprts.


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Old November 20th, 2009, 10:43 AM   #489
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i remember riding the red line because im a geek and just rode it to ride it since i was in town, train was packed. made me proud of LA.
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Old November 20th, 2009, 03:21 PM   #490
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I have always liked the simply "M" for the metro symbol. Great to see people riding. I really hope to get out again some time to ride the system.

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Old November 20th, 2009, 10:28 PM   #491
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Since the US is re-focusing on adding bike commuting to go with new transit, perhaps we could try something like bicycle cars? i.e. one side has seats removed and bike racks attached to the walls in their palces?
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Old November 20th, 2009, 11:35 PM   #492
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i remember riding the red line because im a geek and just rode it to ride it since i was in town, train was packed. made me proud of LA.
That makes me a geek too. I drive, but sometimes on my days off I like to go to Downtown on the Metro (Green, Blue, then Red to either Hollywod or Union Station). I walk around, have lunch, maybe meet my friend who's a member of SSC also, then ride back home.

I want to see a Metor light rail hug tha coast tho, like the old Red Cars used to do. That would be incredible.

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Hollywood and Vine Station. The actual platform is still another flight down.
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Hollywood and Vine Station. The actual platform is still another flight down.
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The Hollywood and Vine station has those 50 million film reels everywhere.

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Old November 21st, 2009, 06:00 AM   #495
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Oops, you guys are right, I labeled it wrong in my Flickr account.

I have a pic of the REAL Hollywood and Vine Station,

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Old November 21st, 2009, 12:21 PM   #496
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That is superb.
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Old November 22nd, 2009, 12:14 AM   #497
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It is indeed. I had a look on maps.live, because I am a geek too I am really impressed how nice middle density developments are being done all around most of the stations and if they integrate the rail that nicely as the one above it makes the neighborhood looking really human sized.
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Old November 22nd, 2009, 07:22 AM   #498
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That makes me a geek too. I drive, but sometimes on my days off I like to go to Downtown on the Metro (Green, Blue, then Red to either Hollywod or Union Station). I walk around, have lunch, maybe meet my friend who's a member of SSC also, then ride back home.
haha i think it is geekier to ride the metro for a distance, get off, cross the platform, and ride back just to see how the metro is. that is what I did lol.
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Old November 23rd, 2009, 02:13 AM   #499
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haha i think it is geekier to ride the metro for a distance, get off, cross the platform, and ride back just to see how the metro is. that is what I did lol.
I did that in New Orleans with their trolley, rode it from Bourbon St. thru the Garden District till the end of the line, got off, and waited till the same one took off back to downtown! lol

We are super geeks!!
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LOL, I think most of us on here have done that type of thing! I rode Nuremberg metro one stop and crossed to the other side of the platform for the return. Riding transit gives you a great feel for a city, even if it is a short ride.

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