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Old April 29th, 2012, 07:52 PM   #861
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The Orange Line extension to Chatsworth hasn't opened yet, has it?
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Old April 29th, 2012, 08:30 PM   #862
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The Orange Line extension to Chatsworth hasn't opened yet, has it?
It's going to open in a couple months along with the Culver City and Farmdale Expo stations. The opening of the orange line extension is so close that it would be a waste of resources to reprint every map in the entire the system just to add 4 stations on the map when it will open soon anyway.
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Old April 29th, 2012, 08:53 PM   #863
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Getting Kenneth Hanh's name off the map at 103rd St and replacing it with Watts Towers - when did that happen?

Also, they didn't bother to clutter the Blue Line station names with Rosa Parks, Julian Dixon, Chick Hearn etc on this map. I like that.
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Old April 29th, 2012, 10:29 PM   #864
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It was a while ago. Rarely did anyone call those stations Julian Dixon and such anyway.
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Old May 2nd, 2012, 08:15 AM   #865
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For those of you who are fans of "Modern Family," the episode being shown on May 2 2012 takes place partially on the LA Metro. Previews show Cameron, Mitch and Lily at the North Hollywood station.












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Old May 4th, 2012, 03:46 AM   #866
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Is the programme supposed to resemble the 1960s?
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Old May 7th, 2012, 03:42 AM   #867
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Getting Kenneth Hanh's name off the map at 103rd St and replacing it with Watts Towers - when did that happen?

Also, they didn't bother to clutter the Blue Line station names with Rosa Parks, Julian Dixon, Chick Hearn etc on this map. I like that.
It'd be better though if the map matched the signs in the stations and the recorded announcements but the new names do not. Especially "Willowbrook". None of the signs nor any of the announcements use that as the name for that station. At least for 103rd, the signs and announcements still have the "103rd" part even if they use "Kenneth Hahn" instead of "Watts Tower".
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Old May 7th, 2012, 07:52 AM   #868
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It'd be better though if the map matched the signs in the stations and the recorded announcements but the new names do not. Especially "Willowbrook". None of the signs nor any of the announcements use that as the name for that station. At least for 103rd, the signs and announcements still have the "103rd" part even if they use "Kenneth Hahn" instead of "Watts Tower".
I hope I am not the only one reminded of the words of one Charles Pearson, the stalwart promoter of the Metropolitan Railway (precursor of the London Undeground) who was rather sorely opposed to the use of station names. He was known to say, "Surely there is no need to expense sums on such puffery."
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Old May 8th, 2012, 09:04 AM   #869
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extension of Orange Line to Chatsworth (porn production district):

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Metro Orange Line Extension testing continues
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Traffic control officers were deployed to ensure vehicular safety during the busway testing.

Metro Orange Line Extension testing is now in its third week. Buses continue to run intermittently on their very own dedicated right-of-way between Canoga Station and the Chatsworth Metrolink/Amtrak Station.

Metro reminds motorists, pedestrians and bicyclists to watch out for buses as they pass intersections to ensure a safe operation. The extension is still on track for a June 2012 opening. Here are a few photos from the testing now in progress:


Metro Liner arrives at the Southbound Roscoe Station.


Metro Liner descends from the Lassen Street Bridge at the Chatsworth Station.


Metro Liner arrives at the Chatsworth Station.


Metro Liner heading southbound on the Lassen Street Bridge.
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Old May 11th, 2012, 06:58 AM   #870
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it's been days, but here's another vid.

LA's newst line. Expo (Aqua) Line.

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Old May 11th, 2012, 08:33 AM   #872
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More Orange Line Chatsworth pre-opening photos
source: Los Angeles streetsblog flickr (http://www.flickr.com/photos/2930071...th/7160263302/)

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I think it's great how LA extends it's public transportation.
But what I don't get is, why the Orange Line is part of the Metro network. From what I can see it's just a bus with less stations...
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Old May 11th, 2012, 04:25 PM   #874
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But what I don't get is, why the Orange Line is part of the Metro network. From what I can see it's just a bus with less stations...
They "cheat" like Berlin, putting some improved bus route as if it were light-rail just because the buses look modern and have an own ROW with fancy paints on pavement.

But it is good old crap bus, relying on the driver human reactions instead of signaling and electronics to drive the vehicle.
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They "cheat" like Berlin, putting some improved bus route as if it were light-rail just because the buses look modern and have an own ROW with fancy paints on pavement.

But it is good old crap bus, relying on the driver human reactions instead of signaling and electronics to drive the vehicle.
Question though: you're in favour of people driving cars which relies on human reactions, but you're not in favour of buses? You must have a consistent stance on this...
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Question though: you're in favour of people driving cars which relies on human reactions, but you're not in favour of buses? You must have a consistent stance on this...
Well, for a starter car passengers and drivers are supposed to wear seatbelt all the times, and don't carry standing passengers, and have (modern cars) all sort of gimmicks like lateral airbags or survival cell-design concept. A bus with loose passengers is potentially much more dangerous in case of collisions. NO road vehicle should EVER carry unrestrained passengers. In any decent country, hauling passengers without seatbelts is heavily fined, and hauling passenger in, say, the back of a pickup SUV totally prohibited!

Then, a bus weighs much more than a car.

Finally, I'm all in favor of a next technological leap that takes the human input as the centerpiece of driving an "individual mobility vehicle". I like cars not for the driving as for the kind of mobility (point to point, private, in a vehicle that allows you to buy more comfort with money, with ample routing) they provide. But I'm all too excited for UGVs to take off. Computers are much more reliable than humans to drive, including myself.

But buses are dangerous, filthy and, if the produce extreme dicomfort for people travelling in its un-ergonomic seats or, worse, standing!
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I've ridden the Orange Line quite a few times. The buses are clean, smooth, and quite fast (60 mph on the Orange Line is the norm which is about the same speed as the subway). When the Orange Line first opened, there was almost an accident a week but it's now it's pretty reliable.

And subways are just the same as buses when it comes to extreme discomfort (ever have a subway train break down inbetween stations in the summer), sudden acceleration, and filth everywhere.

Oh and PS: The Orange Line does have signal priority.
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And subways are just the same as buses when it comes to extreme discomfort (ever have a subway train break down inbetween stations in the summer), sudden acceleration, and filth everywhere.

I can read on trains and metros, but not on buses. This is because trains and metros run smoothly on tracks, whereas buses are too inconsistent and my equilibrium gets all messed up when focussing my eyes on a non-moving piece of paper, while the bus around me is moving back and forth.

I have only tested this in regular buses, but i'm assuming it's the same in BRT since i also have this problem on consistent speed highway trips in car and coaches.

Conclusion: subways and buses are not the same when it comes to "extreme discomfort".
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I've ridden the Orange Line quite a few times. The buses are clean, smooth, and quite fast (60 mph on the Orange Line is the norm which is about the same speed as the subway).
I could be wrong, but I really don't think that they go over 50. When you're going 60 mph on a city bus - like on the silver line - it's very noticeable. If the bus has to decelerate quickly because of traffic, people standing can actually fall down. To me a fast bus is not only less comfortable than a train, it's not entirely safe.

Anyway I think that the real reason that they are on the Metro map is for political reasons. It placates government officials that advocated for BRT instead of rail and SFV residents that have been left out of the ongoing rail expansion (their own fault anyway).
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Well, for a starter car passengers and drivers are supposed to wear seatbelt all the times, and don't carry standing passengers, and have (modern cars) all sort of gimmicks like lateral airbags or survival cell-design concept. A bus with loose passengers is potentially much more dangerous in case of collisions. NO road vehicle should EVER carry unrestrained passengers. In any decent country, hauling passengers without seatbelts is heavily fined, and hauling passenger in, say, the back of a pickup SUV totally prohibited!

Then, a bus weighs much more than a car.

Finally, I'm all in favor of a next technological leap that takes the human input as the centerpiece of driving an "individual mobility vehicle". I like cars not for the driving as for the kind of mobility (point to point, private, in a vehicle that allows you to buy more comfort with money, with ample routing) they provide. But I'm all too excited for UGVs to take off. Computers are much more reliable than humans to drive, including myself.

But buses are dangerous, filthy and, if the produce extreme dicomfort for people travelling in its un-ergonomic seats or, worse, standing!
You don't know shit about physics, do you?

M(Delta V) = M(Delta V) in a collision. So, the bus having a much higher mass would have a much lower change in the velocity. Because of conservation of momentum, they must be equal, so if the bus has a higher mass and lower change in velocity, the car must have a lower mass but higher change in velocity. Because you have a much lower change in velocity of the bus, passengers won't go flying through the windshield thus there is no need a for seat belts. There is a reason all those cars need safety gimmicks. A car can't withstand shit.

The bolded part of your post, the very thing you use to argue your point against the safety of a bus, is actually the reason why a bus is safer.


This is like basic high school physics, so you are only making yourself look like a dumbass.
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