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Old May 18th, 2012, 03:25 AM   #881
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Which of the two modes might you reckon'd get creamed colliding below speed at an LRT grade crossing, eh?
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Old May 21st, 2012, 11:30 AM   #882
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Problem junction: Expo Line

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Expo Line junction design flaw prompts inspection order
The junction has presented significant safety issues and requires a special inspection program because of subsequent 'non-standard' repairs, the state regulator says.

By Dan Weikel, Los Angeles Times

May 20, 2012, 9:00 p.m.
State safety regulators have ordered stringent inspections of a downtown Los Angeles rail junction for the newly opened Expo Line because of a serious design flaw that poses an increased risk of train derailments.

Officials of the Los Angeles County Metropolitan Transportation Authority insist the intersection of the region's newest light rail service and the older Long Beach Blue Line at Washington Boulevard and Flower Street is safe for now because of small modifications to the tracks.

But the junction — several blocks south of the multilevel underground Metro Center station at 7th and Figueroa — has presented significant safety issues and requires a special inspection program because of "non-standard" repairs made in an effort correct the problem, said Michelle Cooke, who oversees the California Public Utilities Commission's rail safety unit.
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Old May 25th, 2012, 06:58 PM   #883
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Metro Board of Directors approves route for Westside Subway Extension’s second and third phase, including Century City station on Constellation



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The final route and station locations of the second and third phase of the Westside Subway Extension were approved by the Metro Board of Directors on Thursday by a vote of seven to two. Board Members Mike Antonovich and John Fasana voted against the route.

The approval includes, most notably, a station location in Century City at the intersection of Constellation Boulevard and the Avenue of Stars to avoid building a station and tunnel in active earthquake fault zones under Santa Monica Boulevard. Metro’s experts testified that building a station or tunnels under Santa Monica Boulevard would be unsafe.

The Constellation station will require tunneling under part of the Beverly Hills High School campus. That is opposed by the city of Beverly Hills and the Beverly Hills Unified School District.

In testimony to the Metro Board, Beverly Hills city and school officials on Thursday both asked the Board to delay making a decision on tunneling under the school and school officials again threatened state and federal litigation.

Officials from Beverly Hills also alleged that the earthquake faults are not active. “You will not succeed and we will stop you at every turn,” said Beverly Hills Unified School District Board Member Lisa Korbatov.

Metro staff and other experts remain unswayed by Beverly Hills’ arguments. “The Santa Monica Fault is an active fault and there’s no extra evidence that is going to come in that is going to change that,” said Lucy Jones, a seismologist with the U.S. Geological Survey who reviewed the project. She was not paid by Metro.

In response to a hearing last week requested by the city of Beverly Hills, the Metro Board in a separate action voted to adopt the findings regarding the reasonableness of the Constellation station and the related subway tunnels beneath Beverly Hills High School.


The findings, posted here, reaffirmed Metro’s previous position that tunneling can be done safely under the high school, among other things. The vote was 8 to 2, with the no votes from Directors Antonovich and Fasana. A motion by Antonovich for an additional study on the Santa Monica Fault failed on an 8 to 2 vote, with only Antonovich and Fasana voting for it.

In the past two years, Beverly Hills officials have alleged: that the subway tunnels would trigger underground gas explosions beneath the school; Metro moved the station to Constellation to benefit a politically-connected developer in Century City, and; subway tunnels would interfere with school operations and would hinder the possible future development of an underground parking garage at the school.

Metro staff, experts and consultants strongly disagree, saying: there are lower gas levels under the school than in other parts of Los Angeles, including downtown L.A., where there are existing subway tunnels; that ridership would be higher at the Constellation station than a station along Santa Monica Boulevard, and; that noise and vibrations under the school would be within legal limits, have no adverse impacts and that the tunnels, which would be at least 50 feet under the school, would still allow for a three- to four-story underground garage or other structure.

Beverly Hills also submitted three alternative routes to a Constellation station last week that bypassed tunneling under the high school.

Metro staff said they reviewed the three routes and determined they would require much deeper tunnels to avoid buildings and would greatly increase the cost of the project and impact residential properties west of Century City. Staff also said that the routes proposed by Beverly Hills has tighter turns that would require slower train speeds.

Supervisor and Board Vice Chair Antonovich likened Metro’s seismic experts Dr. James Dolan and Lucy Jones to “trained seals,” saying their background in seismology precluded them from drawing conclusions on the geology of the area and the engineering of the project.

Metro CEO Art Leahy disagreed and stood by the agency’s conclusions. Dr. Jones testified that she was not being paid by Metro and reviewed the project under her role as a seismologist with the federal U.S. Geological Survey. Dr. Dolan, a professor of earth sciences at USC, testified that even after he began his role as a consultant with Metro, Beverly Hills city and school district officials contacted him about possibly working for them.

The Westwood/UCLA station will be located at the intersection of Wilshire and Westwood boulevards. The Westwood/VA station will be on the south side of Wilshire Boulevard, with an entrance just east of Bonsall Avenue, allowing for a very short walk from the station to the entrance of the VA Hospital.

The Metro Board in April had voted to certify the Final Environmental Impact/Statement Report for the project, which will extend the current Purple Line subway from Western Avenue for nine miles to Westwood. The first segment between Western and La Cienega Boulevard is scheduled to be completed in 2020.

The Board in April delayed selecting a route for the second and third phases of the project to accommodate a request for a hearing about the Century City station location by the city of Beverly Hills.
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Old May 25th, 2012, 07:19 PM   #884
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I'm not buying Beverly Hill's concerns, and I like the Century City station.
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Old May 25th, 2012, 08:17 PM   #885
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You don't know shit about physics, do you?

This is like basic high school physics, so you are only making yourself look like a dumbass.
No need for these parts of your explanation; the teacher should never educate with 'mala educación'. And not all of us are good at maths or sciences; that's where you come in.
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Old May 25th, 2012, 10:48 PM   #886
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I'm not buying Beverly Hill's concerns, and I like the Century City station.
I would be interesting to know the percentage of anglophile Angelenos that are aware of the existence of the Los Angeles Metro.
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Old May 26th, 2012, 12:35 AM   #887
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subway tunnels would interfere with school operations and would hinder the possible future development of an underground parking garage at the school.
That must be the most hilarious argument I have ever heard. A subway must not be built where it makes most sense because then one of the buildings above can't build an underground car garage anymore?

So not to prevent a potential underground car garage, the subway should be built at an active fault line instead.

Are they real? What is this Beverly Hills High School? Is it some elite school or where comes that arrogance from?
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Old May 26th, 2012, 01:16 AM   #888
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Beverly Hills used to be nice and progressive, but recently it has been settled by stuck-up racist Persians. They're just as obnoxious in the US as they are in Iran. What really peeves me is that they're going to be pursuing a lawsuit against Metro, a lawsuit that they will surely lose, but one that will delay this long-delayed project even more.

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Are they real? What is this Beverly Hills High School? Is it some elite school or where comes that arrogance from?
Yes, it's the most elite public school in the Western U.S.
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Old May 26th, 2012, 01:58 AM   #889
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That must be the most hilarious argument I have ever heard. A subway must not be built where it makes most sense because then one of the buildings above can't build an underground car garage anymore?

So not to prevent a potential underground car garage, the subway should be built at an active fault line instead.

Are they real? What is this Beverly Hills High School? Is it some elite school or where comes that arrogance from?
and actually, it wont stop them from building the underground garage because the tunnel will be 80 feet underground while the garage will not be more than 50 feet deep. they are grasping at straws.

it should be mentioned that most of beverly hills and even the merchants on Rodeo are FOR the subway, the only idiots against it are a few NIMBY cronies
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Old May 26th, 2012, 03:07 AM   #890
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January 1994 epicenter was too far north, if you ask me!
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Old May 26th, 2012, 03:54 AM   #891
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Old May 26th, 2012, 04:18 AM   #892
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A video of the NIMBYs

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No need for these parts of your explanation; the teacher should never educate with 'mala educación'. And not all of us are good at maths or sciences; that's where you come in.
I understand that some people are better at different subjects, I suck at literature.(though for most part I think it's just the fact that I hate it)

Normally I would cut some slack, but when you bring yourself into a conversation and argue points, you need to know what you are talking about. I especially grilled Suburbanist because in another thread he states "it's all about physics" yet seems to know nothing of the sort.

I suck at Lit, so I keep myself out of those conversations. If you are going to make point about physics and act like you know what you are talking about to someone who knows physics, don't expect them to give you a free pass.
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Why so much trouble trying to stop it? Why not "ok, we will agree easily and without any bad words, but if something goes wrong, you are paying for ALL the damages", and make them sign a contract.
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Old May 27th, 2012, 12:26 AM   #895
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If that school is such an elite thing, why are they really trying to stop that subway below their building? They can hardly be stupid enough to believe their own arguments. So what are the real arguments? And what makes a school so much more sensitive than lets say a big office building that hosts even more people?

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The funny video claims that the subway could be faster more direct at the alternative route. They obviously don't care for the fact that not those metro networks are the most successful that run the fastest to nowhere but those that connect the destinations that people really want to go to in the best fashion.
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The two unopened stations on Expo Line Phase 1.... (Farmdale and Culver City).

Big Blue Bus (Santa Monica municipal bus company) is adjusting its schedules to serve the Culver City station on June 17, 2012, so perhaps that is an opening date for that station.
http://www.bigbluebus.com/home/index.asp?noticeid=1

There is also speculation that the stations might open as late as June 20, 2012:
http://transittalk.proboards.com/ind...6&page=5#28565
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Los Angeles Times
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Metro's Orange Line busway extension to open in June
May 29, 2012 | 3:03 pm

A 4-mile extension to the Orange Line busway will open at the end of June, officials announced Tuesday, allowing commuters a one-seat ride from Chatsworth to the Red Line subway station in North Hollywood.

The Orange Line now runs 14 miles west from the North Hollywood station past Reseda Boulevard to Canoga Avenue. The extension goes north from there, mostly along Canoga Avenue, to the Chatsworth station and connections to Metrolink and Amtrak trains.

“With the Orange Line Extension -– the first Measure R project to be completed –- we are continuing to build out a new 21st century mass transit system for the people of Los Angeles and for future generations,” said Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa, who also heads the board of the Los Angeles County Metropolitan Transportation Authority. Measure R is the half-cent transportation sales tax -- raising a projected $40 billion -- that voters passed in 2008.

The authority announced that the busway extension would open June 30, with free rides and community events from 7 a.m. to 7 p.m.[/B]
-Ari Bloomekatz
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Los Angeles-Santa Ana metro proposal


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That has got to be the dumbest video I've seen in my god damned life. WTF!
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A video of the NIMBYs

"OOOHHHH" Nice try Beverly Hills.
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