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Old January 30th, 2007, 04:43 AM   #141
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Shouldn't Metro have a budget surplus with the new bond?
I don't think it quite works that way. There are capital costs, which go into building rail lines, busways, and new vehicles and operational costs, which go to the salaries of bus drivers, rail operators and the people who maintain the buses and trains. The bonds go into capital costs...but do be aware that the recently-passed state bond measures 1) get divided among the other transit operators in California and 2) do not give a great deal of funds to mass transit).
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Old January 30th, 2007, 06:31 AM   #142
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This would be amazing. I would never have to drive ever again. I'm all for it! I'd hate to think of the cost and the time it'd take.
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Old January 30th, 2007, 06:42 AM   #143
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You should be going off of this map now.

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Old February 8th, 2007, 04:09 AM   #144
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So the new color designation for the Purple Line is confusing riders . . . I guess it gives another reason for building the subway under Wilshire. What's the status on that anyway?
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Old February 8th, 2007, 06:33 AM   #145
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Just so everyone knows, the palmdale station on the metrolink IS the palmdale airport station, palmdale airport is about 4 miles from rail... and there is no hope of extending rail due to the roads around that area. Metrolink will always have just a palmdale and a lancaster station in the Antelope Valley.


OK local rant over.

BTW im refering to the small colorless insert bottom right
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Old February 8th, 2007, 07:51 AM   #146
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We can only hope for a high speed rail line that connects all of the local airports. We can always dream.
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Old February 9th, 2007, 01:11 AM   #147
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Palmdale isnt even a real airport, it shares its runway with the USAF, and only 1 airline is bold enough to try and take off from there. It will never be a big airport and as unfortunate as that is, its better that way. If LA builds a high speed rail network connecting the airports, leave palmdale off. Its not worth the time or energy.
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Old February 23rd, 2007, 02:07 AM   #148
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So, from what I hear, this is what is lined up next for Metro.

1. Eastside Extension. (under construction)
2. Expo Line. (Phase I under construction. Phase II securing funding)
3. Foothill Extension. (securing funding)
4. Downtown Connector (proposed)
5. Wilshire Subway (proposed)
6. Green Line extension to LAX and Santa Monica? (proposed)
7. Green Line extension east to Metrolink station? (proposed)

After that, then what? My list goes
1. Grade separate the Blue Line.
2. Gold Line extension through Glendale and Burbank to North Hollywood.
3. LAXpress.
4. Subway aligned along the 405.
5. High speed rail to connect the major airports of the area and Union Station.
6. Subway aligned along the 5.
7. Red Line extension to Sylmar.

So what is officially after that and what would you want?
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Old March 6th, 2007, 06:28 PM   #149
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Proposal to extend subway to Los Angeles airport

Sunday, February 25, 2007

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(02-25) 13:09 PST Los Angeles (AP) --


A new government agency would be responsible for extending the subway to the Los Angeles International Airport under a bill introduced in the state Legislature.


The light-rail Metro Green Line currently stops about a mile away from LAX, where passengers have to board a free shuttle to the airport terminal.


The bill introduced last week by Assemblyman Ted Lieu, D-Torrance, would create a new agency to oversee the planning, funding and construction of a subway extension into LAX.


"We should be doing anything we can to encourage people to get out of their cars," Lieu said.


Lieu is a member of the Green Line Coalition, a group of elected officials who is lobbying to expand the light-rail line to the airport.


Under the bill, the agency's board of directors would be appointed by the Legislature. The agency would also be responsible for securing local, state and federal funding for the project.


If the bill is passed by the Legislature, the new agency likely won't operate until 2009, Lieu said.


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Old March 7th, 2007, 10:23 AM   #150
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Also extend it at the other end to meet the Metrolink line, to allow transfers from one to the other, as shown on the map at post #49, above.
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Old March 21st, 2007, 05:50 AM   #151
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How does the rail map look with California High Speed Rail included?
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Old May 5th, 2007, 06:52 AM   #152
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so ive wondered why they dont elevate the red line to sylmar. Build a huge multi-level parking structure by the 210/5/14 interchange and have a dedicated offramp. Seriously, i think that would get more people riding the metro if we showed we want people to.
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Old May 5th, 2007, 07:31 PM   #153
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Generally, when people ride light rail to and from work, they don't want, need, or expect to see a train with crystal glass, silk lined seats, and chinchila carpeting. They expect to ride a light rail that's straight to the point.

Although the Blue Line could use a good cleaning.
Oh please, you can have cars that are both aesthetically pleasing and functional. You don't need to be influenced by the design of a brick for a train to be "straight to the point".
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Old May 6th, 2007, 09:03 AM   #154
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so ive wondered why they dont elevate the red line to sylmar. Build a huge multi-level parking structure by the 210/5/14 interchange and have a dedicated offramp. Seriously, i think that would get more people riding the metro if we showed we want people to.
Where could we get the money for that? If we could help cars bypass that interchange and the terrible commute of the 5, then you would have something really good going.

But in order for that to be succsessful, there would need to be a way to help those who work in Burbank and Glendale. The Red Line extension would only help those who work in Hollywood/Downtown. The Gold Line needs to be extended through Glendale and Burbank.

It's a huge investment, but it would get a lot of people going on Metro.

EDIT: Looking at a map, it seems pretty obvious to me that the Red Line should continue up Lankershim to San Fernando Road to the 210, 14, 5 interchange. It looks like it would be expensive though, that's a lot of tunneling.
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Old May 6th, 2007, 09:42 AM   #155
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So, from what I hear, this is what is lined up next for Metro.

1. Eastside Extension. (under construction)
2. Expo Line. (Phase I under construction. Phase II securing funding)
3. Foothill Extension. (securing funding)
4. Downtown Connector (proposed)
5. Wilshire Subway (proposed)
6. Green Line extension to LAX and Santa Monica? (proposed)
7. Green Line extension east to Metrolink station? (proposed)

After that, then what? My list goes
1. Grade separate the Blue Line.
2. Gold Line extension through Glendale and Burbank to North Hollywood.
3. LAXpress.
4. Subway aligned along the 405.
5. High speed rail to connect the major airports of the area and Union Station.
6. Subway aligned along the 5.
7. Red Line extension to Sylmar.

So what is officially after that and what would you want?
I see what youre saying about aligning subways with the freeways, the problem is everything within at least a half mile of freeways are facilities designed for cars. Its not very conducive to transit oriented development. Yeah there are existing lines with some alignments along freeways, but the latest trend is sort of steering away of that. Major boulevards could definitely support subways though, my guess is thats what makes Wilshire so great is that its already transit oriented, it just needs heavier transit service.
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Old May 6th, 2007, 08:45 PM   #156
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subways along the metrorapid rutes is the smartest thing. Although i still dont understand why our trains are so damn big, we could cut the tunnel size if we had trains like DC or (as much as i hate to say it) San Fran.
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Old May 7th, 2007, 01:00 AM   #157
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The trains would not run under the freeways, they would serve the areas that those freeways serve. I picked the 405 and the 5 because they go through high-density areas.
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The trains would not run under the freeways, they would serve the areas that those freeways serve. I picked the 405 and the 5 because they go through high-density areas.
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subways along the metrorapid rutes is the smartest thing. Although i still dont understand why our trains are so damn big, we could cut the tunnel size if we had trains like DC or (as much as i hate to say it) San Fran.
And I didnt notice the major train profile difference between BART and LA metro but thats interesting. BART technology is stupid, broad gauge and poor functionality and few doors. I know it doesn't have to do with train dimensions but I had to put that out there. I wish LA metro trains looked less like New York and had something more unique but thats just being picky.
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Old May 10th, 2007, 06:13 AM   #159
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i meant the lower profile, it would make the tunnels smaller, although the trains would be a lil more cramped.
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Old May 10th, 2007, 04:13 PM   #160
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I think the trains are fine now. We can save smaller tunnels for LRV.

Is the bill for the Wilshire Subway still sitting with the Senate Transportation Committee?
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